RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Things are definitely heating up
Look at all these restricted airspace warnings;
Look at all these restricted airspace warnings;
Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations
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Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
this explains the sightings in Russia but not necessarily the sightings in Iraq or Iran. I am still sceptical
Immortals
Elite Member
2 interceptors are launched for every 1 rocket by Iron Dome. However, the targeting radar for Iron Dome only launches interceptors for rockets that have high statistical probability to land in population zone. No one knows the exact logic algo for that. But rockets that will land in open fields and away from threat zones do not have interceptors fired.
So given the wide inaccuracies of Katyusha rockets, HZ would need to fire much more rockets to get Iron Dome to waste more interceptors. Or it will need to move to more advanced rockets like Zezal series.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
2:1 ratio vs only firing against rockets headed for urban areas could plausibly offset each other
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Patriot missiles used against Hezbollah rocket barrage
Nuffle
Registered Member
You can't trust The Military Balance 2024 too much, but they are:
3 bty with Arrow 2/3(probably 2 Arrow 2 batteries and an Arrow 3 battery)
4 bty with M901 Patriot PAC-2
2 bty with David’s Sling
10 bty with Iron Dome
Here is an interesting analysis of ABM/AA capacity:
Basically defense against American ballistic missiles is more or less like this:
Tactical ballistic missiles: PAC-2, SM-2 Block IV, SM-6, PAC-3
Short-range ballistic missiles: PAC-3, PAC-3 MSE, SM-6, THAAD
Medium-range ballistic missiles: PAC-3 MSE, SM-6, THAAD, SM-3 Block I, SM-3 Block IB, SM-3 Block IIA
Intermediate-range ballistic missiles: THAAD, SM-3 Block IB, SM-3 Block IIA
ICBM missiles: THAAD, SM-3 Block IIA, GBI (GMD)
By removing the GBI, everyone else can be in the CENTCOM theater, including the entire air wing of an aircraft carrier.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
10 Iron Dome batteries seems accurate and widely reported (as of mid-2021, could be 12 now if US sent 2 more batteries, not confirmed)
MDAA says 3 Arrow-2 batteries and 3 Arrow-3 batteries. What's your source for 3 batteries in total?
MDAA also says 3 Patriot PAC-2 batteries, where is your source for 4?
David's Sling is designed for Hezbollah Fateh-class SRBMs and cruise missiles (but so far only used against Hamas rockets), so unlikely to be useful against Iranian MRBMs
Potential countermeasures to Iranian MRBMs: Patriot and Arrow (and maybe THAAD if Israel has it)
Maybe we should start a separate thread to assess the deployment of Israeli air defence systems
Nuffle
Registered Member
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Thanks. No THAAD in Israel is confirmed?
Nuffle
Registered Member
As I said, you still can't trust these numbers. The delivery of the third battery of Arrow 2 was speculated and as Israel had already received the first launcher of the first battery of Arrow 3 in 2017, TMB 2024 would have to be informing that there are 4 Arrow 2/3 batteries. In any case, we are approaching the number close to Israel's anti-aircraft defense.
THAAD I haven't seen confirmation yet.
Although the US sent:
Probably from some CENTCOM country that had THAAD.
Immortals
Elite Member
As long as rockets have a greater accuracy rate than 50% and are being aimed at civilian/military zones.
I don’t know the accuracy rate of these rockets. Based on Hamas firing 10,000 during the recent war, it doesn’t appear accuracy is very good. Nor do many make it thru shield. Which makes sense, it’s a simple ballistic object following a fixed trajectory within low altitude. As long as counter battery radar can pick it, then it’s simple physics calculations.
