Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters
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AverageJoe
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Jordanian king is not even a real Arab. His mother British
Liquidator
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I mentioned previously that Iranian missiles are unlikely to get anywhere near Israel because of its multi layered air defence and F35s, and some Iranians (or Persians as they like to call themselves) laughed. Who's laughing now?as I previously stated, the Israelis pretty much control the airspace of Lebanon and Syria, and there's very little the Iranians can do about it.
The Iranian attack was pretty much what we've seen in Ukraine, the shaheed drones are pretty much useless...toys with moped engines. Iranian cruise and ballistic missiles didn't really fair much better.
The Iranians overreached the escalation ladder. Instead of attacking Israel directly, they should have responded in kind to the Israeli attack in Syria on the Iranian consulate. They should have attacked the Israeli consulate in Armenia, and allege that it was a mossad hub to conduct operations in Iran. At least that way they would have actually killed some Israelis, instead of inflicting a minor scratch on a seven year old Israeli girl, the sum total of the damage from launching over
Where does one begin with such convolution + dull intellect?
Answer: don't.
It would be like trying to get a dog to appreciate fine art; or trying to explain string theory to a slug.
It's a futile exercise.
Persian Gulf
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Iran is not at war with Armenia and does not seek to violate international norms like Israel
All Israeli embassies were already evacuated
Shadihassan28
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Well that’s not nice to be fair I know plenty of Arabs or other ethnicities who have mothers or fathers that are of different ethnicities race matters very little so don’t throw that out there he is definitely a traitor but not because he is half British
Corax
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How many Israelis did you kill? What military equipment and defence capability did you destroy? There's nothing to show after launching over 300 missiles, or your flying lawnmowers. What BDA have you got to show for your assault? All valid questions, but nothing to show for it.
Persian Gulf
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first you say "Iranian missiles are unlikely to get anywhere near Israel" then when confronted with visual evidence of 8+ ballistic missiles impacting inside Israel you change the subject and ask about deaths like a child on call of duty
the objectives of the attack has already been answered many times and are not subject to your straw man trolling about deaths and destruction
Dalit
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AverageJoe
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Yes, but you can’t have people like this in power. They are easily compromised by foreign governments - especially the west and Zionist
Shadihassan28
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I’m guessing he meant Azerbaijan
Awwad
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Today was a bad day for Iran-haters & Israeli fan boys.
The only thing that matters is mission objectives. Interception rate is NEVER a criteria for mission success. Infact intercepting low cost drones with expensive missiles is double failure of israelis today. Its not sustainable in any logistical sense. Israelis were completely confused today.
Iran's Objectives:
First we need to determine, was Iran looking to escalate it way too much Or was Iran trying to give a response that do not warrants a counter-response. I think we can agree that Iran didn't wanted to escalate. Iran wanted to attack Israel, but not a full scale war, it wanted to hit a military target but nothing out of proportionate. Out of 100s projectiles it fired, Iran never intended all those to impact and cause wide scale destruction. Iran sent these 100s intentionally as decoys to confuse Israeli AD to make way for select few BMs. This is as simple as anything. Israeli AD with most expensive missiles foolishly engaged all those cheap drones. In a way its another success of Iran to deplete Israeli stocks of expensive missiles with its cheap drones.
Israel's objectives:
Israel's first objective was to keep the status-quo and make Iran back off. They did full psychological warfare for weeks saying that Israel will instantly respond to Iran with full scale and what not. Israel wanted that deterrence to maintain. This first objective failed.
Israel's second objective was under worst case scenario, if Iran did attacks and violates Israel's airspace then to repel each and everything. It had weeks of preparation, it has US / UK allies with it fully committed. The last thing they wanted was to let their military base hit by Iranian missiles. This objective also failed for Israel.
What happened:
Now Iran's challenge was to pass through that thick layer of AD, which has GPS Jamming, EW and every sort of missiles. and guess what Iran succeed. Iran sent 100s of slow moving projectiles as decoys that were intended to confuse Israeli AD, while atleast 8 fast moving BMs did hit the military base. Objective complete. Mission success. Its not about firing 100s or 1000s or intercepting 1000s, its about the mission criteria.
Iran's timing of missiles was nothing short of perfect, it's missiles precision was nothing short of perfect. We need to understand, we are talking about ranges in excess of 1000 Kms. Iran sent the waves with exact timings, the drones sent hours before the CMs & BMs but all made entry into Israel at exact same moment. Also it shows that Iran was well aware of Israeli AD, that's the only reason they sent so many drones as decoys. Iran sent multi-layered attack against Israel's multi-layered defense.
Lastly. people who are dumb enough to make a foolish point of 'interception rate' needs to ask themselves that what really were they expecting?? Were they expecting that Iran fired those 300+ projectiles all to hit Israel and cause mass level destruction across Israel? I mean if yes, then you need to understand basics of modern warfare. It was never the goal of Iran at first place. Iran wanted most of these low cost drones to be intercepted with expensive israeli AD, so missiles with intended targets can pass through. These low cost drones were meant to be intercepted and confuse Israeli AD along with US / UK / Jordanians. It was Iran against all and it successfully achieved its goals. Israel is humiliated and it can't do much now. This is the reality of today.
I think below video summarizes the total success of brilliant Iranian strike, how most expensive israeli missiles are engaging cheap decoys and while the missiles with real target pass through all the defensive layers. A 10/10 perfect attack.
Note, this is a small demo that Iran has presented. It has proved that Israel is well in range of its missiles, it has proved that Israel can be paralyzed & crushed if attacked with full force, it has proved it's missiles are accurate despite all those GPS / EW jamings. Last century's world order is crumbing & crushing with every year passing.
Whoever is from islamic world but still having cramps, well your country would never in its entire life will stand up to Israel / US / UK. Forget directly firing missiles to their territory ever. Know your place, before making joke of others.
The only thing that matters is mission objectives. Interception rate is NEVER a criteria for mission success. Infact intercepting low cost drones with expensive missiles is double failure of israelis today. Its not sustainable in any logistical sense. Israelis were completely confused today.
Iran's Objectives:
First we need to determine, was Iran looking to escalate it way too much Or was Iran trying to give a response that do not warrants a counter-response. I think we can agree that Iran didn't wanted to escalate. Iran wanted to attack Israel, but not a full scale war, it wanted to hit a military target but nothing out of proportionate. Out of 100s projectiles it fired, Iran never intended all those to impact and cause wide scale destruction. Iran sent these 100s intentionally as decoys to confuse Israeli AD to make way for select few BMs. This is as simple as anything. Israeli AD with most expensive missiles foolishly engaged all those cheap drones. In a way its another success of Iran to deplete Israeli stocks of expensive missiles with its cheap drones.
Israel's objectives:
Israel's first objective was to keep the status-quo and make Iran back off. They did full psychological warfare for weeks saying that Israel will instantly respond to Iran with full scale and what not. Israel wanted that deterrence to maintain. This first objective failed.
Israel's second objective was under worst case scenario, if Iran did attacks and violates Israel's airspace then to repel each and everything. It had weeks of preparation, it has US / UK allies with it fully committed. The last thing they wanted was to let their military base hit by Iranian missiles. This objective also failed for Israel.
What happened:
Now Iran's challenge was to pass through that thick layer of AD, which has GPS Jamming, EW and every sort of missiles. and guess what Iran succeed. Iran sent 100s of slow moving projectiles as decoys that were intended to confuse Israeli AD, while atleast 8 fast moving BMs did hit the military base. Objective complete. Mission success. Its not about firing 100s or 1000s or intercepting 1000s, its about the mission criteria.
Iran's timing of missiles was nothing short of perfect, it's missiles precision was nothing short of perfect. We need to understand, we are talking about ranges in excess of 1000 Kms. Iran sent the waves with exact timings, the drones sent hours before the CMs & BMs but all made entry into Israel at exact same moment. Also it shows that Iran was well aware of Israeli AD, that's the only reason they sent so many drones as decoys. Iran sent multi-layered attack against Israel's multi-layered defense.
Lastly. people who are dumb enough to make a foolish point of 'interception rate' needs to ask themselves that what really were they expecting?? Were they expecting that Iran fired those 300+ projectiles all to hit Israel and cause mass level destruction across Israel? I mean if yes, then you need to understand basics of modern warfare. It was never the goal of Iran at first place. Iran wanted most of these low cost drones to be intercepted with expensive israeli AD, so missiles with intended targets can pass through. These low cost drones were meant to be intercepted and confuse Israeli AD along with US / UK / Jordanians. It was Iran against all and it successfully achieved its goals. Israel is humiliated and it can't do much now. This is the reality of today.
I think below video summarizes the total success of brilliant Iranian strike, how most expensive israeli missiles are engaging cheap decoys and while the missiles with real target pass through all the defensive layers. A 10/10 perfect attack.
Note, this is a small demo that Iran has presented. It has proved that Israel is well in range of its missiles, it has proved that Israel can be paralyzed & crushed if attacked with full force, it has proved it's missiles are accurate despite all those GPS / EW jamings. Last century's world order is crumbing & crushing with every year passing.
Whoever is from islamic world but still having cramps, well your country would never in its entire life will stand up to Israel / US / UK. Forget directly firing missiles to their territory ever. Know your place, before making joke of others.
Mobius
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Just what the Zionist entity wants. It's dying for a regional war. The US empire needs to fall, what better way to do it then to start WW3.
Nuffle
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Will we see the effectiveness of Iran's air defense now?
Kyussis
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Don't they know Israel is the safest place for the jewish people?
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