Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[prothought]

You can’t compare American technology to Pakistan. So no point bringing out this point.

I really don’t know how to say this without sounding like a hater, but hopefully members will know my history and that I am far from being a Pakistan hater, but there’s no missile research going on in Pakistan so this claim of introducing A or B is a moot point. Pakistan is importing while India is innovating. This is the sad reality. If the Chinese or North Korean pipeline stop, missile development in Pakistan will come to a screeching halt. This is the sad reality.

BTW, how do you know that no missile research going on in Pakistan? Or are you trying to bait?

 

[Awwad]

Now with the recent events, Pakistanis now know that Shaheen 3 won't do anything even if fired in 100s. Pakistani’s are literally crying in corner looking at interception rates against MRBM and cruise missile classes. Even so called "second strike" ability of Pakistan depends on cruise missiles. Plus think about the disproportionate response you guys will receive from the other end and how you'll protect your major population centres from this onslaught since you guys don't have a functional BMD system yet. BMD isn't fancy, it's a necessity, saves lives.

hahahaha.... This got to be the most hilarious post! Tells how much delusional one can get watching indian media.

I mean who on earth can be stupid enough to value "interception rate" in Iran's attack against Israel. The whole Iranian campaign was designed carefully for minimum damage / least impacts. They got through all those defenses on the place where they really intended to hit. You got to be out of your mind, if you think that Iran wanted all those 300 drones / CMs to all make impact all over the Israel, causing wide scale destruction and start a full scale war. Iran wanted Israel to use their expensive AD missiles against slowest / loudest / cheapest Iranian drones. They made a point that we can do this all day / all week but you don't have enough to defend all the time.

Secondly, Israel with billions spent on missile defense along with US, along with UK & France, with 3 hour prior warning from Iran itself before starting the attack, weeks of preparation and a tiny Israeli airspace to defend but still Iran was able to hit that airbase using BMs (with non-explosive warheads). Just imagine, if someday Iran intends to hurt Israel. Oh my !

Now the most funny element in your post was about "india" LMAO!! How on earth you fit here LOL? Israel has all the tech, all the investment on its AD, US / and allies with it and above all such a tiny airspace to cover. Whereas YOU, lol! I have a news for you if Pakistan fires 300 BMs towards India, all 300 would make an impact. You may only be able to intercept drones / some cruise missiles at max. You got a huge arse to protect. Really not possible to even think that you can defend against a serious missile attack that's not for show or controlling escalation but intends to hurt.

Now, I know this guy's response. He won't have anything logical to say in response but would make a smiley reaction. Do it. attaboy.

 

[Dalit]

Now with the recent events, Pakistanis now know that Shaheen 3 won't do anything even if fired in 100s. Pakistani’s are literally crying in corner looking at interception rates against MRBM and cruise missile classes. Even so called "second strike" ability of Pakistan depends on cruise missiles. Plus think about the disproportionate response you guys will receive from the other end and how you'll protect your major population centres from this onslaught since you guys don't have a functional BMD system yet. BMD isn't fancy, it's a necessity, saves lives.

India will be obliterated once Pakistan fires its vast array of missiles. Israel isn't coming to your rescue LOL Israel needs help from the US, UK, France and Jordan.

 

[Dalit]

hahahaha.... This got to be the most hilarious post! Tells how much delusional one can get watching indian media.

I mean who on earth can be stupid enough to value "interception rate" in Iran's attack against Israel. The whole Iranian campaign was designed carefully for minimum damage / least impacts. They got through all those defenses on the place where they really intended to hit. You got to be out of your mind, if you think that Iran wanted all those 300 drones / CMs to all make impact all over the Israel, causing wide scale destruction and start a full scale war. Iran wanted Israel to use their expensive AD missiles against slowest / loudest / cheapest Iranian drones. They made a point that we can do this all day / all week but you don't have enough to defend all the time.

Secondly, Israel with billions spent on missile defense along with US, along with UK & France, with 3 hour prior warning from Iran itself before starting the attack, weeks of preparation and a tiny Israeli airspace to defend but still Iran was able to hit that airbase using BMs (with non-explosive warheads). Just imagine, if someday Iran intends to hurt Israel. Oh my !

Now the most funny element in your post was about "india" LMAO!! How on earth you fit here LOL? Israel has all the tech, all the investment on its AD, US / and allies with it and above all such a tiny airspace to cover. Whereas YOU, lol! I have a news for you if Pakistan fires 300 BMs towards India, all 300 would make an impact. You may only be able to intercept drones / some cruise missiles at max. You got a huge arse to protect. Really not possible to even think that you can defend against a serious missile attack that's not for show or controlling escalation but intends to hurt.

Now, I know this guy's response. He won't have anything logical to say in response but would make a smiley reaction. Do it. attaboy.

This Hindutva nigga thinks he can apply the same template for India versus Pakistan. Israel versus Iran is an entirely different conflict. The way the Iranians are handling the conflict would be very different to when a war breaks out between Pakistan and India. Two total different scenarios and settings. There is zero relevance between both conflicts. These curry boys think their daddy Israel has finally found a holy grail for pervert Hindustan.

These cringe ugly Hindutva sons of bitches shouldn't be allowed on this forum. All they do is pollute.

 

[falcon34]

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This video of Dr. Samar explains everything in detail regarding S3, especially its terminal guidance at 5 minute time stamp.
PSAC with an MARV, with hypersonic terminal velocity, india, even israel is fucked.
Thread should be closed @Oscar
its becoming more like a trolling thread!

 

[HRK]

can u kindly elaborate how the thrusters on warhead would impact on warheads trajectory changes?.

As per publicaly available info

PSAC provides the ability to adjust the warhead trajectory for enhanced accuracy and conduct evading maneuvers against anti-ballistic missile defence systems.

It is believe S-I Alpha also have this capability so in short from S-I till S-III all of Shaheen series have PSAC

 

[Oscar]

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This video of Dr. Samar explains everything in detail regarding S3, especially its terminal guidance at 5 minute time stamp.
PSAC with an MARV, with hypersonic terminal velocity, india, even israel is fucked.
Thread should be closed @Oscar
its becoming more like a trolling thread!

Please report any trolls and if you find the opposite side wasting time in copy pasting or disagreeing - just agree to disagree and LEARN to simply ignore their posts.

It’s ok to ignore some people COMPLETELY and have them understand the concept of agree to disagree as well.

After all, there are only two outcomes in(heaven forbid) in actual conflict

The people in the target cities who are currently disparaging Pakistani technology or boosting their utter supremacy in ABM as infallible watch their systems successfully intercept Pakistani missiles in the atmosphere or otherwise.

OR

They find themselves like this at 3:27

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Let them have their beliefs as they wish and hopefully they are never tested.

Suffices to say the sobering bit is that Pakistanis do not have any OR in this situation.

 

[HRK]

@Bilal
@HRK
@arjunk
The thread has gone into trolling and irrelevant comparisons, whilst the questions for which this thread was created has not been answered. So the informed members, kindly take ur time to answer the above, question while ignore the trolls
Regards.

I am not "informed" member just an enthusiastic reader

 

[krash]

Does Pakistan have an ample stock pile of BM and CM's for conventional use like Iran or are our's only reserved for nuclear strikes?
@Oscar

Every ballistic and cruise missile that you have can be armed with a conventional payload as needed. That said, doubt you'll get the actual number of missiles that we have.

 

[JamD]

Can any knowledgeable member please provide input on this? Do we possess truly maneuverable warheads (MaRV)?

this PSAC system just seems to be for minor corrections rather than full on evasive maneuvers to reliably penetrate AD.

@Oscar @JamD @Quwa

Even if NESCOM has been sitting twiddling their thumbs for 25 years, they've developed a lot of this stuff out of sheer boredom I'm sure. Yes, there's a large majority simply doing sarkari jobs, but there's also a very small and extremely talented minority that is keeping us up to date on these things. I wouldn't worry too much about our GNC tech stagnating. I want to see progress in the solid-rocket motor department.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Does Pakistan have an ample stock pile of BM and CM's for conventional use like Iran or are our's only reserved for nuclear strikes?
@Oscar

Not previously
But India pushed us to develop conventional strike role BMs &CMs post 2019 stand-off.
We have Fatah Series Missiles & Rockets for conventional role
Taimur ALCM is specifically developed for conv. role.

 

[TallGuy]

I am sure after Iranian missile barrage - Pakistan will be thinking of implications and utilization of Pakistan Rocket force and conventional employment on large scale as well.

By the way if as per reports Iran fired 120 BMs in 2 hours.

our whole operational stock would be 200-350 ballistic missiles of all types (Ghaznavi/Abadali/Ghauri/Shaheen/Shaheen II)

 

[Dalit]

The numbers game cannot be underestimated. Iran versus Israel has ignited this debate and rightfully so. Although, what we should be mindful of is that the minuscule number of missiles that the Iranians fired towards the Zionists is essentially peanuts. It was also pre-announced and even then the Zionists got a lot of help from multiple countries including the US, UK, France and Jordan. Israel didn't defend itself all by itself.

 

[Dalit]

our whole operational stock would be 200-350 ballistic missiles of all types (Ghaznavi/Abadali/Ghauri/Shaheen/Shaheen II)

You don't know the actual number of missiles that Pakistan has. Stop fabricating numbers.

 

[PakAl]

our whole operational stock would be 200-350 ballistic missiles of all types (Ghaznavi/Abadali/Ghauri/Shaheen/Shaheen II)

Just 200 - 350 missiles? That is a very small number, I expect to have a few 1000s atleast to make sure our defence is strong.