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Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters
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F-22Raptor
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This user confirms the radar destruction and has 30cm imagery of the site but needs approval before posting the image.
UKBengali
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Ok, why does the entity not publish this as it has spy satellites?
We saw clear evidence of two airbases in Occupied Palestine being bombed from video and satellite imagery, but no concrete and unambiguous evidence so far of the entity's "strike" on the Iranian radar system.
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UKBengali
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Can an Iranian poster answer why Iran chose to use S-300 PMU2 rather than its own Bavar-373 SAM to protect the Isfahan Airbase?
I heard someone say that the Iranian S-300 is more like a S-400 as it used so many S-400 components and so maybe slightly better than Bavar-373 if that is the case.
I heard someone say that the Iranian S-300 is more like a S-400 as it used so many S-400 components and so maybe slightly better than Bavar-373 if that is the case.
Immortals
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Bavar is still in testing phase or “live trials”
S-300 isn’t made for quadcopters. That’s like shooting a fly with a Bazooka.
The real question is where were the anti-civilian drone EW devices. Where were the shohrad systems whose job it is to protect the S-300 from PGMs and drones (small diameter objects).
Iran has one of the most extensive and diverse of SHORADs and medium range air defense systems in the world…..and none of them were deployed around the S-300?
Israel doesn’t care to score brownie points. And US doesn’t exactly want to be like “wait iran is lieing haha look at them”
Why doesn’t Iran buy commercial Sat and post pictures of Ramon, Nevatim, and Golan site it targeted?
Why don’t any of the Muslims Twitter users do it? How come only Western OSINT accounts spend money?
UKBengali
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Iran announced that it was in service in 2019.
How well could Iran defend itself against a potential Israeli attack?
Iran operates a wide variety of missile defence batteries at different ranges that aim to defend against aerial strikes.
"The longest-range missile defence system operated by Iran is the locally-developed Bavar-373, which entered service in 2019 after a decade of development and testing, and has been significantly improved since."
Apparently there is an even better version now in testing that surpasses the S-400 in capabilities
Immortals
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Iran announced that it was on service in 2019.
How well could Iran defend itself against a potential Israeli attack?
Iran operates a wide variety of missile defence batteries at different ranges that aim to defend against aerial strikes.www.aljazeera.com
"The longest-range missile defence system operated by Iran is the locally-developed Bavar-373, which entered service in 2019 after a decade of development and testing, and has been significantly improved since."
Apparently there is an even better version now in testing that surpasses the S-400 in capabilities
Yeah it’s ‘Iran bazi’. When Iran announces something is in service it means just finished final prototypes. It takes time to build battalions of Bavar/S-300/Patriot/THAAD. There is a reason countries don’t have a ton of them. They are expensive and time consuming to produce.
When Supreme Leader travels guess who follows him? An S-300 battery not a Bavar.
Also the ABM Bavar (called Arman) just got unveiled this year. It’s still in development as well.
F-22Raptor
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Strike was meant to show Iran that Israel could paralyze its defenses, Western officials say.
An Israeli weapon deployed in a retaliatory strike against Iran on Friday damaged a defense system responsible for detecting and destroying aerial threats near Natanz, a central Iranian city critical to the country’s secret nuclear weapons program, according to two Western officials and two Iranian officials.
The strike, the Western officials said, was calculated to deliver a message to Iran that Israel could bypass Iran’s defense systems undetected and paralyze them, using a fraction of the fire power Iran deployed last week when it launched hundreds of drones and missiles at Israel. That attack, intercepted by Israel and its allies, caused minimal damage.
The two Iranian officials said the weapon had struck an S-300 antiaircraft system at a military base in the nearby province of Isfahan. The officials’ account is supported by satellite imagery analyzed by The New York Times, which showed damage to the radar of an S-300 system at the Eighth Shekari Air Base in Isfahan.
It was unclear what sort of weapon struck the Iranian air defense system. Three Western and two Iranian officials confirmed on Friday that Israel had deployed aerial drones and at least one missile fired from a warplane. Previously, Iranian officials said the attack on the military base had been conducted by small drones, most likely launched from inside Iranian territory.
A missile, two Western officials said, was fired from a warplane far from Israeli or Iranian airspace and included technology that enabled it to evade Iran’s radar defenses. Neither the missile nor the aircraft that fired it entered Jordanian airspace, the Western officials said, a gesture meant to keep the kingdom out of the conflict after it helped shoot down Iranian weapons last week.
The two Iranian officials said that Iran’s military had not detected anything entering Iran’s airspace on Friday, including drones, missiles and aircraft. Iran’s state news agency, IRNA, reported that no missile attacks had occurred and that Iran’s air defense system had not been activated.
Tensions between Iran and Israel, longtime foes, increased this month in a series of strikes. On April 1, Israeli warplanes struck an Iranian Embassy building in Damascus, killing several Iranian armed forces commanders. Iran retaliated last weekend, firing a large salvo of weapons at Israel, almost all of which were intercepted.
Israel, the two Western officials said, had scrapped an earlier plan to fire back on Iran with a large-scale attack. That plan, they said, was replaced with a strike intended to send a quiet but decisive message with the aim of ending the cycle of reprisal.
Israel’s use of drones launched from inside Iran and a missile that it could not detect, the Western officials said, was intended to give Iran a taste of what a larger-scale attack might look like. The attack, they said, was calibrated to make Iran think twice before launching a direct attack on Israel in the future.
Officials from both Iran and Israel refrained from speaking publicly about Friday’s attack, a move that appeared aimed at de-escalating a conflict some fear could spiral into a broader regional war. Israel’s silence on the attack, an Iranian official said, would allow Tehran to treat the strike as it had previous clandestine attacks in the countries’ long-running shadow war and not prompt an immediate response.
www.nytimes.com
An Israeli weapon deployed in a retaliatory strike against Iran on Friday damaged a defense system responsible for detecting and destroying aerial threats near Natanz, a central Iranian city critical to the country’s secret nuclear weapons program, according to two Western officials and two Iranian officials.
The strike, the Western officials said, was calculated to deliver a message to Iran that Israel could bypass Iran’s defense systems undetected and paralyze them, using a fraction of the fire power Iran deployed last week when it launched hundreds of drones and missiles at Israel. That attack, intercepted by Israel and its allies, caused minimal damage.
The two Iranian officials said the weapon had struck an S-300 antiaircraft system at a military base in the nearby province of Isfahan. The officials’ account is supported by satellite imagery analyzed by The New York Times, which showed damage to the radar of an S-300 system at the Eighth Shekari Air Base in Isfahan.
It was unclear what sort of weapon struck the Iranian air defense system. Three Western and two Iranian officials confirmed on Friday that Israel had deployed aerial drones and at least one missile fired from a warplane. Previously, Iranian officials said the attack on the military base had been conducted by small drones, most likely launched from inside Iranian territory.
A missile, two Western officials said, was fired from a warplane far from Israeli or Iranian airspace and included technology that enabled it to evade Iran’s radar defenses. Neither the missile nor the aircraft that fired it entered Jordanian airspace, the Western officials said, a gesture meant to keep the kingdom out of the conflict after it helped shoot down Iranian weapons last week.
The two Iranian officials said that Iran’s military had not detected anything entering Iran’s airspace on Friday, including drones, missiles and aircraft. Iran’s state news agency, IRNA, reported that no missile attacks had occurred and that Iran’s air defense system had not been activated.
Tensions between Iran and Israel, longtime foes, increased this month in a series of strikes. On April 1, Israeli warplanes struck an Iranian Embassy building in Damascus, killing several Iranian armed forces commanders. Iran retaliated last weekend, firing a large salvo of weapons at Israel, almost all of which were intercepted.
Israel, the two Western officials said, had scrapped an earlier plan to fire back on Iran with a large-scale attack. That plan, they said, was replaced with a strike intended to send a quiet but decisive message with the aim of ending the cycle of reprisal.
Israel’s use of drones launched from inside Iran and a missile that it could not detect, the Western officials said, was intended to give Iran a taste of what a larger-scale attack might look like. The attack, they said, was calibrated to make Iran think twice before launching a direct attack on Israel in the future.
Officials from both Iran and Israel refrained from speaking publicly about Friday’s attack, a move that appeared aimed at de-escalating a conflict some fear could spiral into a broader regional war. Israel’s silence on the attack, an Iranian official said, would allow Tehran to treat the strike as it had previous clandestine attacks in the countries’ long-running shadow war and not prompt an immediate response.
Israeli Weapon Damaged Iranian Air Defenses Without Being Detected, Officials Say
The strike, two Western officials said, was calculated to deliver a message to Iran that Israel could bypass Iran’s defense systems undetected and paralyze them.
Immortals
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These air defenses are not imprentable especially to small diameter objects. It was the job of the SHOHRAD and AA crews to protect the S-300 radar.
Here is Russia recently destroying a S-300 in Ukraine
Here is them destroying a Patriot
Another patriot sub component
Unless you layer your air defenses densely like Israel does, the probability of something getting thru like this can rise. Not that the Israeli ABM shield is impenetrable, but it is highly dense given the tiny territory it covers.
Here is Russia recently destroying a S-300 in Ukraine
Here is them destroying a Patriot
Another patriot sub component
Unless you layer your air defenses densely like Israel does, the probability of something getting thru like this can rise. Not that the Israeli ABM shield is impenetrable, but it is highly dense given the tiny territory it covers.
hussain0216
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Strike was meant to show Iran that Israel could paralyze its defenses, Western officials say.
An Israeli weapon deployed in a retaliatory strike against Iran on Friday damaged a defense system responsible for detecting and destroying aerial threats near Natanz, a central Iranian city critical to the country’s secret nuclear weapons program, according to two Western officials and two Iranian officials.
The strike, the Western officials said, was calculated to deliver a message to Iran that Israel could bypass Iran’s defense systems undetected and paralyze them, using a fraction of the fire power Iran deployed last week when it launched hundreds of drones and missiles at Israel. That attack, intercepted by Israel and its allies, caused minimal damage.
The two Iranian officials said the weapon had struck an S-300 antiaircraft system at a military base in the nearby province of Isfahan. The officials’ account is supported by satellite imagery analyzed by The New York Times, which showed damage to the radar of an S-300 system at the Eighth Shekari Air Base in Isfahan.
It was unclear what sort of weapon struck the Iranian air defense system. Three Western and two Iranian officials confirmed on Friday that Israel had deployed aerial drones and at least one missile fired from a warplane. Previously, Iranian officials said the attack on the military base had been conducted by small drones, most likely launched from inside Iranian territory.
A missile, two Western officials said, was fired from a warplane far from Israeli or Iranian airspace and included technology that enabled it to evade Iran’s radar defenses. Neither the missile nor the aircraft that fired it entered Jordanian airspace, the Western officials said, a gesture meant to keep the kingdom out of the conflict after it helped shoot down Iranian weapons last week.
The two Iranian officials said that Iran’s military had not detected anything entering Iran’s airspace on Friday, including drones, missiles and aircraft. Iran’s state news agency, IRNA, reported that no missile attacks had occurred and that Iran’s air defense system had not been activated.
Tensions between Iran and Israel, longtime foes, increased this month in a series of strikes. On April 1, Israeli warplanes struck an Iranian Embassy building in Damascus, killing several Iranian armed forces commanders. Iran retaliated last weekend, firing a large salvo of weapons at Israel, almost all of which were intercepted.
Israel, the two Western officials said, had scrapped an earlier plan to fire back on Iran with a large-scale attack. That plan, they said, was replaced with a strike intended to send a quiet but decisive message with the aim of ending the cycle of reprisal.
Israel’s use of drones launched from inside Iran and a missile that it could not detect, the Western officials said, was intended to give Iran a taste of what a larger-scale attack might look like. The attack, they said, was calibrated to make Iran think twice before launching a direct attack on Israel in the future.
Officials from both Iran and Israel refrained from speaking publicly about Friday’s attack, a move that appeared aimed at de-escalating a conflict some fear could spiral into a broader regional war. Israel’s silence on the attack, an Iranian official said, would allow Tehran to treat the strike as it had previous clandestine attacks in the countries’ long-running shadow war and not prompt an immediate response.
Israeli Weapon Damaged Iranian Air Defenses Without Being Detected, Officials Say
The strike, two Western officials said, was calculated to deliver a message to Iran that Israel could bypass Iran’s defense systems undetected and paralyze them.
Strike was a minimal response, to ensure Israel could use the propaganda to try and sooth their hurt ego without making Iran respond even more belligerently
MastanKhan
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Hi,
What I am 'understanding' is that the iranian nuc site got hit by a deep penetrating---high impact non explosive kinetic weapon---.
Israel does not need to claim victory---iran swallows its pride and will never disclose how hard it got hit---till it actually gets disclosed by a 3rd party as to what happened---.
Israeli and american star wars weapons have proven successful with a 95% + success rate---.
There was no surprise at 300 + number of iranian weapons flying to israel---.
300-500 weapons flying in at one time would put a dent in israeli / US alliance---.
Now if the iranians had launched a 2nd and 3rd batch of 300 weapons each at israel---that would have resulted in massive destruction in israel---.
What I am 'understanding' is that the iranian nuc site got hit by a deep penetrating---high impact non explosive kinetic weapon---.
Israel does not need to claim victory---iran swallows its pride and will never disclose how hard it got hit---till it actually gets disclosed by a 3rd party as to what happened---.
Israeli and american star wars weapons have proven successful with a 95% + success rate---.
There was no surprise at 300 + number of iranian weapons flying to israel---.
300-500 weapons flying in at one time would put a dent in israeli / US alliance---.
Now if the iranians had launched a 2nd and 3rd batch of 300 weapons each at israel---that would have resulted in massive destruction in israel---.
Shadihassan28
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Well you have to include all of Israel’s defenses, Jordan’s, American and European Allie’s and supposedly a number of gcc Allie’s to claim that 90 to 95 percent rate also also add probably every fighter jet in the region in the air at the time but yes totally agree if iran had been totally serious would have kept up the wave for a longer time but they chose not to. It’s weird how people think iran used up a vast majority of their ballistic missiles and drones, but there are reports that Hezbollah has up to 2000 drones, yes different varieties for different situations but many would be one way attack drones. Honestly how many drones have Houthi fired and anti ship ballistic and ballistic missiles.
JaneBhiDoYaaron
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What about Messiahs of other religions Anyway, I think we are still too far away and world is not destabilized enough for them to come. They want us to suffer more I guess.
Personally, I feel world needs heroes more then Messiahs.
lightning f57
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Hopefully this tit for tat ends now.
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