Setting Sail in the Eastern Mediterranean: A Comparative Analysis of Egyptian MEKO-200EN and Turkish İstif Class Frigates

[Foinikas]

it is cheaper to ask your masters in tel aviv what kind of navy is suitable for you to get better deals.

Enough of with this nonsense. If Erdogan isn't a "slave" and cares so much for Palestinians,why doesn't he go with his "hyperwar capable army unrivaled in the region" to free Gaza and move to Kudus?

 

[mulj]

Enough of with this nonsense. If Erdogan isn't a "slave" and cares so much for Palestinians,why doesn't he go with his "hyperwar capable army unrivaled in the region" to free Gaza and move to Kudus?

I did not ask for your opinion but thanks for sharing it.

 

[Mehmed Bey]

Hopefully, nothing comes out of any Egyptian and Turkish military co operation . Everyone should go to their own direction.
As of this Sami guy
I know that it is in the nature of your, let's say geography, to boast but 21 of the Bosniaks, you know that little people in Balkans were the governors of Egypt.
Now carry on about someone kneeling down.
Thank you very much and I bet I will hear from you later.

 

[Foinikas]

I did not ask for your opinion but thanks for sharing it.

Did they ask for yours?

 

[MS Sandhu]

Hopefully, nothing comes out of any Egyptian and Turkish military co operation . Everyone should go to their own direction.
As of this Sami guy
I know that it is in the nature of your, let's say geography, to boast but 21 of the Bosniaks, you know that little people in Balkans were the governors of Egypt.
Now carry on about someone kneeling down.
Thank you very much and I bet I will hear from you later.

That days passed and now Egyptians are back in control.

 

[Mehmed Bey]

That days passed and now Egyptians are back in control.

I see , you started reading the newspapers, good for you

 

[mulj]

Did they ask for yours?

It is up to them to say, not you.

 

[Foinikas]

It is up to them to say, not you.

See,you are quick to call Egypt a "slave", but I don't see you nag about Erdoğan giving them Azeri oil or not doing anything to save Gaza.

 

[MMM-E]

In principle, the Egyptian Navy represents terror and deterrence for Türkiye's dreams that have turned into illusions

REALITY

Egypt only can dream about the Turkish Navy and Turkish Naval Industry


Only Turkiye gets Blue Water Navy in the region


Upcoming Carrier Strike Group
285 m Aircraft Carrier
232 m TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
200 m TCG DERYA Sea supply combat support Ship
ISTIF class Frigates
TF-2000 class Destroyers
Type-214TN and MILDEN class Submarines

armed with
150-250 km SIPER Air Defense Missiles
220+ km ATMACA Anti-Ship Missiles
1.000 km GEZGIN strategic Cruise Missiles
50 km AKYA heavyweight Torpedos

similar size to British QE class AC

Our First Look at the Turkish Navy's Future Aircraft Carrier - Naval News

An image surfaced in Turkey revealing the design and various features of the Turkish Navy's future aircraft carrier.

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TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship

TCG DERYA Sea supply combat support Ship

ISTIF class Frigate

TF-2000 class Destroyer

Type-214TN class AIP Submarine

MILDEN class AIP Submarine



Air Platforms .... KIZILELMA and KAAN stealth Fighter Jets
armed with
275 km SOM-J stealth Cruise Missiles ... ( land attack and anti-ship capability )
150 km AKBABA supersonic anti-radiation Missiles
180+ km KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missiles
100+ km GOKDOGAN BVR Air to Air Missiles
200 km GOKHAN ramjet powered long range Air to Air Missiles




Turkiye and S.Korea create Blue Water Navy to join the elite Club

USA
UK
France
Russia
China
India
Japan
S.Korea
Turkiye

So Our competitors are not Greece , Iran , Israel , Egypt


Turkiye is in another level to play with big boys as like the Ottoman Empire did it for centuries

Your Countries should pray for President ERDOGAN that he spent $1 trillion for public projects instead of buying-producing more weapons

Turkiye has bigger GDP than Greece+Iran+Egypt combined

 

[MMM-E]

ISTIF class Frigate to become superior to both FREMM and MEKO-A200 Frigates of the Egyptian Navy


Egyptian Navy 3 FREMM Frigates armed with 16 x ASTER-15 SAMs and 8x ECOCET anti-ship Missiles

Egyptian Navy 4 MEKO-A200 Frigates armed with 32 x MICA-VL SAMs and 8 x EXOCET anti-ship Missiles

and Egyptian Frigates lack CIWS for Air Defense



Turkiye produce 8 ISTIF class Frigates

1 MKE 76 mm Gun
64 HISAR-D - ESSM Air Defense Missiles
16 ATMACA Anti ship Missiles
1 GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
2 STOP 25 mm Machine Gun Platforms
6 Torpedos


8 ISTIF class Frigates to carry 512 HISAR-D SAMs


Thanks to Turkish Defense Industry

Roketsan MIDLAS VLS
Every MIDLAS module has 8 cells which is capable of containing 1 canister in each cell , compatible to quad pack cannisters



Only 4 in NATO ... Vertical Launching System

MK-41 VLS ... USA with ESSM SAM
SYLVER VLS ... France with ASTER-15 SAM
GWS 35 VLS ... The UK with CAMM-ER SAM
MIDLAS VLS ...Turkiye with HISAR-D SAM



Even 4 modernized MEKO-200TN Frigates are superior to Egyptian MEKO-A200 Frigates

1x 127 mm naval Gun
64x ESSM SAMs
16x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
6x Torpedos

64x ESSM SAMs

16x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles

 

[MMM-E]

1 TF-2000 Destroyer will have more powerful fire power than 3 FREMM Frigates of the Egyptian Navy


3 FREMM Frigates armed with total of 48 ASTER-15 SAMs and 24 EXOCET anti-ship Missiles


..... Air Defense Capability .....

3 FREMM Frigates with 48 ASTER-15 SAMs + 4 MEKO-A200 Frigates with 128 MICA VL SAMs
7 Frigates armed with total of 176 SAMs


1 TF-2000 Destroyer armed with total of 181 SAMs
( if needed more 64 HISAR-D SAMs instead of 16 GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missiles )
( or more 16 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles )


New details on the TF-2000 Anti-Air Warfare Destroyer
- Full Length: 149 meters
- Width: 21.3 meters
- Water Draft: 5.75 meters
- Displacement: 8,300 tons

96 cells MIDLAS VLS
1 x MKE 127 mm naval Gun

-- ADVENT Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System
-- 450 km CAFRAD Multi-function/illumination/Fire control/Long range Radar complex
-- ALPER LPI Surface Radar
-- ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
-- TORK Hard-Kill Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- HIZIR Soft-Kill Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- FERSAH Hull Mounted Sonar
-- DUFAS Low Frequency Towed Active Sonar

96 cells VLS .. with quad pack capability
32 cells x 4 HISAR-D = 128 SAMs
32 cells x 1 SIPER = 32 SAMs
16 cells x 1 ATMACA = 16 anti-ship Missiles
16 cells x 1 GEZGIN = 16 land attack Cruise Missiles

1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
1 x LEVENT close in air defense system ( 21 missiles )
1 x NAZAR LASER - EW System


Turkish Navy getting cooperative engagement capability

150+ km SIPER Block2 Air Defense Missile

range of 250+ km with booster


ADVENT Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System



Only Turkiye gets Destroyer in the region
Turkiye becomes the 3rd Country in NATO to use its own Systems on its own design Destroyer after USA and France

Turkiye joins the elite Club

USA
UK
France
Russia
China
India
Japan
S.Korea
Turkiye

So Our competitors are not Greece , Iran , Israel , Egypt

 

[eIsQengiz]

LMAO

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In principle, the Egyptian Navy represents terror and deterrence for Türkiye's dreams that have turned into illusions

It is also clear that you do not understand anything. Buying weapons in large quantities is inevitable because in times of war you will not find anyone to give you weapons. Also, Egypt has a larger navy than Turkey.
It has 20 corvette frigates and 40 missile launchers
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Model of the JARI-USV-A in Cairo, Egypt. (Picture source: Navy
Recognition)

Also, the Egyptian naval units will be Manned-Unmanned Teaming teams for the naval units, such as an Egyptian cruiser who will command 2-4 UUV/USV units. This will of course make the Egyptian Navy, which will possess large numbers of USVs, in need of huge numbers of SSM missiles, thus the concept of the 1980s that Egypt possesses 700 surface-to-surface missiles for the naval and coastal defense units are no longer enough, so you find Egypt requesting every missile it can obtain, so it supported 600 Exocet, Automat, and Harpoon missiles, as well as the C-705KD missiles supplied to the Egyptian units of the MRTP-33, and Turkey offered to Egypt to produce not only the MILGEM corvette and supply it. With Egyptian ammunition, but also the MRTP-34/45/51

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Next to the coastal picturesque CM-302 / P-800

The TYPE-209 submarines are modernized and have the ability to dive to a depth of 500 metres, and this is what distinguishes them from the newer versions, and you do not know what their level of modernization is in navigation or electronic warfare systems, as all European platforms are based on Turkey in their electronic access, navigation and fire management.
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Also, Egyptian-Turkish relations were engineered through Egyptian intelligence. Erdogan came on his knees to Egypt because Egypt offered him a temporary rescue offer and provided Gulf financial support so that he would not fall in the elections. Egypt sees Erdogan’s presence as an ideal opportunity to double Turkey and its economic collapse, and we have not mentioned it for years that Turkey is economically heading for contraction and death. This is what is happening now and is continuing, and in exchange for Erdogan’s support, he presented Egypt with offers that we said were competitive at very low prices to open the Egyptian market, which is what makes the Europeans offer technically better offers than the Turks. The Turks offered the Corvette MILGEM at a price of less than 300 million dollars, while the newer versions of the Corvette Gowind 2500 are priced. 500 million dollars
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Regarding submarines, there is competition between the S-80 PLUS and the Barracuda version as the main submarine for the Egyptian Navy.
Type 209/1600, Type 039C, guard and attack submarines.

Egypt targets Reconquest and its number of submarines, which were 14 submarines in 1980.
In addition to midget submarine dives and unmanned submarines near Talat Misr, the UUV/USV was deployed, which received French, Chinese and Italian offers.

Maintaining quantitative superiority does not mean also giving up qualitative superiority, as Turkish weapons are equivalent to Chinese weapons in terms of weapons supplied in quantities.
So you find Egypt saved with 76 WING LOON 2 and 42 WING LOONG I
and CH-5 18-24
And also the national production 6 OCTOBAR,
30 JUNE / AHMOS /
And the numbers of TB2 / AKANCI combine quantity and awareness together to demonstrate absolute superiority in the theaters of operations over the countries that represent the field of hostility: Israel, Turkey, Iran, Ethiopia.

Perhaps this is an unfortunate idea, as the alleged Egyptian request to order from Europe is too far-fetched.
First of all, Europe is an interdependent multinational enterprise with no self dependence and must obey the orders of the United States to blackmailers. Secondly, only Türkiye has production capacity in the Middle East. Egypt needs to get rid of the white trash and deploy their 5th generation aircraft rationally although procurement of LR Cruise with low observable stealth could be deployed in the near future and I agree no matter which angle you look at it Turkey has established reciprocity with Egypt Mutually beneficial relationship.

Wishful thinking will not bring about change. If you don't care about achieving this goal, no one will do it for you Egypt

 

[MMM-E]

Also, the Egyptian naval units will be Manned-Unmanned Teaming teams for the naval units, such as an Egyptian cruiser who will command 2-4 UUV/USV units.

Egypt produce nothing


Turkiye rules technology to work with Manned-Unmanned Teaming to turn Enemy Naval Fleet into scrap of metal in a day



Egyptian FREMM and MEKO-A200 Frigates armed with only ASTER-15 and MICA NG SAMs with range of 30-40 km which can not match with even Turkish UCAV fleet fire power


300 UCAVs armed with 2.000+ guided munitions and missiles with range of 30-40-50-80-150-180-200-250-280-700 km for swarm attack

Only Turkiye in NATO
150 km CAKIR anti-ship Missiles for swarm attack
Also 150+ km IHA-230 supersonic Missile

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AKSUNGUR UCAV
AKSUNGUR fitted with various types of payloads including the sonobuoy pod for anti-submarine warfare (ASW).

Its long endurance in the air, which exceeds 60 hours, makes it useful not only for ISR missions but also for anti-submarine warfare.

The most surprising development about Aksungur is the addition of a Torpedo to the Drone

Turkish Aerospace works on arming Aksungur UAV with torpedo - Naval News

Turkish Aerospace showcased the anti-submarine warfare capabilities of its Aksungur MALE UAV at NAVDEX 2023.

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Stealth Platforms KIZILELMA and ANKA-3


to carry 275 km SOM-J anti-ship Misille in internal weapon bay



and Turkiye can fire 10 KGK-SİHA-82 guided Bombs in price of 1 HARPOON anti-ship Missile

Cost effective and lethal solution
Range : 60+ km from UCAVs
Warhead : 230 kg
Seeker : RF seeker for anti-ship role

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Even I am not talking about 80-180-200-280-700 km TOLUN-IIR , KUZGUN-TJ , KEMANKES , SOM and SUPER SIMSEK for upcoming fire power



Even Dozens of Unmanned Vessels to carry Turkish ORKA and AKYA Torpedos also KUZGUN and CAKIR Missiles

Swarm attack by 20 MARLIN USVs with 80 Torpedos against Submarines
Swarm attack by 20 MARLIN USVs with 400 KUZGUN-TJ Missiles against enemy Warships





Ukraine destroyed Russian Warships by unmanned kamikaze Vessels in the Black Sea

Turkish unmanned Kamikaze Vessel with warhead of 200 kg

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Swarm attack by 8 unmanned kamikaze Vessels

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Game changer variant on the way which can able to maneuver underwater



Turkiye is not buying
Turkiye is producing its own technologies

State-of-the-art detection and targeting systems to find enemy Warships and Submarines
Most modern Platforms to turn enemy Warships and Submarines into scrap of metal

 

[mulj]

See,you are quick to call Egypt a "slave", but I don't see you nag about Erdoğan giving them Azeri oil or not doing anything to save Gaza.

I did indirectly, read more carefully, not that i need to justify my position to some random greek ortodox extremist,

 

[MMM-E]

It bought 25 automatic missiles and bought 25+ Harpoon missiles to replenish its previous stocks, especially since it is a quick solution and accelerates the transfer of technology, even if it is modest and backward. Also, it is not denied or denied, perhaps there are personal interests, as the arms trade depends mainly on corruption, and the Turks are adept at offering bribes to customers.

USA and Europe give monkey model Weapons to Egypt with limited numbers

Egyptian F-16s lack BVR and land attack Cruise Missile
Egyptian RAFALEs lack BVR and land attack Cruise Missile

France removed SYLVER50 VLS and EW System on FREMM Frigate
and without ASTER-30 SAM

Only Turkiye can give what Egypt need ....


Strategic Cruise Missile
Turkiye becomes 3rd country in NATO after USA and France

USA : Tomahawk
France : MdCN
Turkiye : KARA-ATMACA and GEZGIN

500 km KARA-ATMACA ground launched Cruise Missile



And Turkish ATMACA Missile is superior to HARPOON and EXOCET
with superior guidance IIR+RF hybrid seeker and Data-Link

We can put SOM Cruise Missile in through the window
Thanks to superior guidance with GPS , INS , TRN , ATR , IBN and IIR seeker

Also ATMACA cruise Missile hit 15cm target from 220+ km away ....
( in super sea skimming mode below 2 m ) ...... what an accurcy


Turbojet engine producers in NATO

USA : Teledyne and Williams
France : SAFRAN
Turkiye : KALE-ARGE and TEI

KTJ-3700 turbojet Engine to power the KARA-ATMACA Cruise Missile


1.000 km GEZGIN ground and naval launched Cruise Missile ... ( under development )
similar to American TOMAHAWK Cruise Missile
GEZGIN Cruise Missile will be launched from Land Platforms , TF-2000 Destroyers and REIS-MILDEN Submarines

Turkish Submarines to Fire Turkish Cruise Missiles Soon | TURDEF

Submarine Fleet Commander Rear Admiral Timur Yılmaz stated that firings of GEZGİN and ATMACA cruise missiles from submarines will commence soon.

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SIPER Block2 Air Defense Missile for Warships
Range : 150+ km
Speed : Mach 4

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GOKDOGAN Air to Air Missile

Range : 100+ km
Speed : mach 4

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GOKHAN ramjet powered long range Air to Air Missile

The new project aims to bring new dimensions to the Turkish Air Force. GOKHAN ramjet engine will bring advantages similar to MBDA’s Meteor missile.

Ramjet engine ignition test successfully performed at SAGE​

Ramjet engine ignition test successfully performed at SAGE | TURDEF

Gökhan Project, Turkey’s ramjet-powered air-to-air missile project, has recently passed a critical stage. The engine was tested during the visit of SSB's Demir.

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AKBABA supersonic anti-radiation Missile
The name of AKBABA, the first anti-radiation missile developed by Turkiye was officially announced to the public for the first time on July 1, 2021, with a presentation by the Turkish Air Force Command.

Turkey’s Roketsan develops missile to replace Raytheon weapon

Turkey’s state-controlled missile-maker Roketsan has developed a supersonic, anti-radiation missile for the TF-X, the country’s indigenous fighter jet in the making.

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Turkiye develops even RAMJET-SCRAMJET for supersonic-Hypersonic Missiles

ROKETSAN is working on solid fuel Ramjet technology
TÜBİTAK-SAGE is working on liquid fuel Ramjet technology

RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missile



Turkiye aspires to develop Hypersonic Missiles
Hypersonic missiles with flight speeds of Mach 5 and higher speeds.

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