Setting Sail in the Eastern Mediterranean: A Comparative Analysis of Egyptian MEKO-200EN and Turkish İstif Class Frigates

[Foinikas]

I did indirectly, read more carefully, not that i need to justify my position to some random greek ortodox extremist,

"Extremist"? What are you even talking about?

 

[Waz]

@MMM-E bro just keep it at the comparison between the two frigates please.

 

[hodor]

It is really ridiculous to fight with Egypt, with whom we have a common history and culture.

The Germans and the French destroyed each other 70 years ago but today they live in prosperity.

We are all the same in the Middle East except Iran and Israel. We have to stop fighting and work together.

 

[MMM-E]

Egypt buys 4 MEKO-A200EN class Frigates
better to compare with 4 modernized MEKO-200TN Frigates of the Turkish Navy



Egyptian Navy 4 MEKO-A200EN class Frigates

1 × Otobreda 127 mm gun
32 x MICA-NG SAMs with range of 40km
8 x EXOCET anti-ship Missiles with range of 200 km
6 x Torpedos
NO CIWS

Thales NS-110 Radar
Thales SCORPION 2 ECM and ESM system





Turkish Navy 4 modernized MEKO-200TN Frigates

Turkiye spend €250 million to modernize 4 MEKO-200TN Frigates with most modern Systems and Weapons ...... ( €60+ million for per Ship )

1 × Otobreda 127 mm gun
64 x ESSM SAMs with range of 50+ km
16 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles with range of 220+ km
1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
6 x Torpedos

SMART-S MK-II Radar
ARES-2N ECM and ESM system
ADVENT Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System

BARBAROS Class Frigates Mid-Life Upgrade (MLU) Project Update

The contract for the Mid-Life Upgrade (MLU) of four BARBAROS Class (MEKO 200 TN Track II-A/B) Frigates in the inventory of the Turkish Naval Forces Command (TNFC) was signed between SSB, and ASELSAN-HAVELSAN Business Partnership, which will replace the existing combat systems onboard the...

www.defenceturkey.com

RESULT

Turkish Navy MEKO-200 Frigate carry 2x more SAMs and 2x more anti-ship Missiles

also Egyptian Navy MEKO-A200 Frigate doesnt have a CIWS
Turkish Navy MEKO-200 Frigate armed with 1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS to intercept anti-ship Missiles

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye spend €250 million to modernize 4 MEKO-200TN Frigates with most modern Systems and Weapons ...... ( €60+ million for per Ship )

Is the modernization complete in both ships?

 

[MMM-E]

It is really ridiculous to fight with Egypt, with whom we have a common history and culture.

We will not fight

Turkiye and Egypt opened a new era in relationship

Egyptian FM visited Turkiye a day ago

We advocate for the stability and unity of Libya.
We deliberated with the Egyptian side on how to collaboratively pursue this objective systematically and explored actionable proposals

 

[MMM-E]

Is the modernization complete in both ships?

The First Ship modernization completed

until the end of 2025 , more 3 MEKO-200 Frigates will be modernized

after AND before

 

[Sami_1]

REALITY

Egypt only can dream about the Turkish Navy and Turkish Naval Industry


Only Turkiye gets Blue Water Navy in the region


Upcoming Carrier Strike Group
285 m Aircraft Carrier
232 m TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
200 m TCG DERYA Sea supply combat support Ship
ISTIF class Frigates
TF-2000 class Destroyers
Type-214TN and MILDEN class Submarines

armed with
150-250 km SIPER Air Defense Missiles
220+ km ATMACA Anti-Ship Missiles
1.000 km GEZGIN strategic Cruise Missiles
50 km AKYA heavyweight Torpedos

similar size to British QE class AC
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Our First Look at the Turkish Navy's Future Aircraft Carrier - Naval News

An image surfaced in Turkey revealing the design and various features of the Turkish Navy's future aircraft carrier.

www.navalnews.com

TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
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TCG DERYA Sea supply combat support Ship
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ISTIF class Frigate
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TF-2000 class Destroyer
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Type-214TN class AIP Submarine
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MILDEN class AIP Submarine
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Air Platforms .... KIZILELMA and KAAN stealth Fighter Jets
armed with
275 km SOM-J stealth Cruise Missiles ... ( land attack and anti-ship capability )
150 km AKBABA supersonic anti-radiation Missiles
180+ km KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missiles
100+ km GOKDOGAN BVR Air to Air Missiles
200 km GOKHAN ramjet powered long range Air to Air Missiles
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Turkiye and S.Korea create Blue Water Navy to join the elite Club

USA
UK
France
Russia
China
India
Japan
S.Korea
Turkiye

So Our competitors are not Greece , Iran , Israel , Egypt


Turkiye is in another level to play with big boys as like the Ottoman Empire did it for centuries

Your Countries should pray for President ERDOGAN that he spent $1 trillion for public projects instead of buying-producing more weapons

Turkiye has bigger GDP than Greece+Iran+Egypt combined

You are still distinguished by possessing the capabilities of strategic stupidity that you cannot overcome. You still talk about the future and dreams and say that we will be superior in the future.

We are talking about the present. The leaders of your country came to Egypt weaker than it was and forced it to do so

You naively talk about equipment, some of which was developed by design and some of which is experiments, and you turn all your real weaknesses into strength through dreams and illusions.

Where do the Turkish aircraft carriers serve in your imagination, in the right side of your little brain? Where do your fifth-generation fighters and KIZILELMA drones serve in the Air Force? The bed you sleep on, and this is the intelligence of what you list, like any salesman who sells cheap breast milk. He does not care about propaganda. He who forces another to carry out his desires is humiliating. The other has two years to accept dealing with him. You know that whoever came to implement Egypt’s conditions is your president and your regime. We are in a world that only respects the strong, and the weak are the ones who come on their knees.
You do not have real or realistic superiority, nor do you have any respectable, non-politicized global strategic studies center

You are forgetting a very important thing. We said Turkey will collapse economically and you are still suffering and cannot get out. Rather, the valuations are that your currency will collapse and its value will gradually decrease, and you have a big problem. All of your products have components imported from abroad, so keep your large exports and your imports larger because all your production inputs are imported, in addition to energy. It is the reason for your economic weakness, which you are trying to get out of. Your businessmen, why are they fleeing to Egypt? Because your economic situation cannot be weaponized. Therefore, in the future, you will not be able to build a strong army or a strong economy. You are talking about future projects.

Therefore, your words are worthless. You say, for example, that you have ships carrying more air defense missiles than the Egyptian ones. Where do these missiles and batteries serve? Their tests have not been completed. What is the idiocy that you spread and make you think that we, like you, are limited in mind and thought?

In one of the comments, you brag about your strategic yachts and your submission to America. You say that the value of 23 billion dollars is to develop 270 aircraft, and this is a lie. Rather, buy 40 new aircraft and develop 80, and you yourself published programs worth 2 billion dollars to develop Turkish F-16 aircraft with your alleged Özgür program for 150, and you dissolve and integrate this development. In an exaggerated deal worth 23 billion dollars, it says that the 23 billion dollars includes 950 AMRAAM missiles and some guided bombs. Should you not be ashamed of this nuclear deal?
And you explain that you are a liar and that your projects are simply fictitious. Why does Turkey buy AIM-120C8 missiles and you have a Turkish air-to-air missile whose price is a third of the price of an American missile? And why do you buy American bombs when you produce American guided bombs and in the same way you produce the SOM missile? So either your projects are fictitious or you are lying and deceiving.

You simply do not understand the value of $23 billion distributed over the sale of 400 J-10C aircraft.

What is the value of the EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON plane? Spain and Germany bought the plane at a price of 100 million dollars, and Egypt offered them the plane at a price of 125 million dollars for the price of 24 planes. That is, a limited deal in the case of purchasing large numbers of planes. The price drops by 20%. So who is the player who buys 40 F-16BLOCK 72 planes? He develops 80 and buys ammunition with this number to develop aircraft that will serve him for 20 years and their level is much lower than fighters such as the EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON or RAFALE. Therefore, what is considered pride is a failed and naive deal and a bribe to America to lift the sanctions on you and be satisfied with you in exchange for 23 billion dollars. Will the amount of 23 billion dollars raise the level of the Air Force? Or does it make it weaker than other air forces that have better aircraft and equipment? Have you not yet understood that you are escaping from reality to islands of dreams and science fiction programs and mixing things up with each other to hide your weakness, your failure and your true weakness?

 

[GoMig-21]

Oh my goodness Sami is on a tear! lol
Hey @MMM-E , I see you're letting loose with all your Türkiye weapons filled posts again lol. You've come out swinging on this new PDF like a caged monster that has been freed lmaaaooo. You should change your username to MMA instead.



Watch out, man, Sami is no slouch as you can see loooool. Sami, khosh belra7a shwaya ya habibi.

 

[MMM-E]

You are still distinguished by possessing the capabilities of strategic stupidity that you cannot overcome. You still talk about the future and dreams and say that we will be superior in the future.

Stop dreaming with your Egypt which can not produce even a Corvette

And where is your SCORPONE - BARRACUDA Submarine ? you delusional Troll
You have started showing future projects .....even No any deal to buy SCORPONE - BARRACUDA Submarines

On the other hand
Turkiye produce 6 Type-214TN class AIP Submarines and 2 of 6 Submarines already were produced

even I am not talking about STM-500 and MILDEN class Submarine projects

keep dreaming with 4 Type-209 Submarines
Turkiye has already 12 Type-209 Submarines



Turkiye develops its own weapons FAC , Corvette , Frigate , LCT , LST , Sea supply combat support Ship and all Subsystems from VLS to AESA Radars , from Naval Gun to SAMs , from EW Systems to Anti-Ship Missiles


..... As of 2024 , Turkish Navy is the strongest Navy in the Region ......

Egyptian Navy Combat fleet
11 Frigates
4 Corvettes
8 Submarines

NO Anti-Submarine Warfare Plane
NO strategic strike UCAV
NO Electronic Warfare Ship
NO Unmanned Combat Vessel
NO Unmanned Kamikaze Vessel

and NO any future project


Turkish Navy Combat fleet
17 Frigates
4 Corvettes
13 Submarines

12 Anti-Submarine Warfare Planes .. ( 6 ATR-72 and 6 CN-235N )
AKINCI strategic Strike UCAV
MARLIN and ULAQ Unmanned Combat Vessels
ALBATROS Unmanned Kamikaze Vessel
TCG UFUK Electronic Warfare Ship ... only Turkish Navy in the region

 

[MMM-E]

Delusional Boy showing BARRACUDA Submarine and Fake Unmanned Vessels on this thread

and When I show real Turkish Military Projects here
SAMI-1 started crying

Where are Egyptian future projects ?
only in your dreams and fantasy world with youtube videos


Confirmed Turkish Projects
-- 285 m Aircraft Carrier Carrier
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine
-- KAAN 5th gen FİGHTER jET
-- KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets

keep dreaming with your monkey model weapons ....
Egyptian F-16s without BVR and land attack Cruise Missile
Egyptian RAFALEs without BVR and land attack Cruise Missile
Egyptian FREMM Frigate without ASTER-30 SAM and EW System

 

[MMM-E]

It is the reason for your economic weakness, which you are trying to get out of. Your businessmen, why are they fleeing to Egypt? Because your economic situation cannot be weaponized. Therefore, in the future, you will not be able to build a strong army or a strong economy. You are talking about future projects.

You are trolling ... without any source

Turkiye has bigger GDP than Greece+Egypt+Iran combined

Turkiye : $1.113 trillion

Iran : $464 billion
Egypt : $ 347 billion
Greece : $250 billion

SOURCE

List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And as of 2024
Turkiye has bigger Defense Budget than Greece+Egypt+Iran combined

Turkiye increase Defense Budget to $40 billion from $16 billion for 2024

SOURCE

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-allocate-150-more-defense-budget-2024-minister-2023-10-17/#:~:text=ANKARA%2C%20Oct%2017%20(Reuters),billion%20for%20defense%20and%20security.

 

[MMM-E]

Therefore, your words are worthless. You say, for example, that you have ships carrying more air defense missiles than the Egyptian ones. Where do these missiles and batteries serve? Their tests have not been completed. What is the idiocy that you spread and make you think that we, like you, are limited in mind and thought?

Even I am not talking about 8 ISTIF class Frigates to carry 512 HISAR-D SAMs in future

As of 2024
16 Turkish Frigates armed with 672 SM-1MR , RIM-7 and ESSM Air Defense Missiles

-- 4 GABYA Frigates armed with total of 144 SM-1MR and 128 ESSM SAMs
-- 4 OHP Frigates armed with total of 144 SM-1MR SAMs
-- 4 YAVUZ class Frigates armed with total of 64 RIM-7 SAMs
-- 2 BARBAROS class Frigates ( 8 cells MK-41 VLS ) armed with total of 64 ESSM SAMs
-- 2 BARBAROS class Frigates (16 cells MK-41 VLS ) armed with total of 128 ESSM - RIM-7 SAMs


Egypt bought 7 Frigates armed with total of 176 ASTER-15 and MICA NG SAMs
And Egyptian Navy 4 OHP Frigates armed with total of 144 SM-1 SAMs

Thanks to American MK-41 VLS for quad pack capability for ESSM SAM
French SYLVER VLS doesnt have quad pack capability for ASTER-15 SAM

Learn about military before trolling and babbling

Hey @MMM-E , I see you're letting loose with all your Türkiye weapons filled posts again lol.

Only in your fantasy World
Egyptian Armed Forces thread = 90% fake news and delusional projects without any agreement

Keep dreaming with your Egypt with monkey model weapons
TOPIC IS OVER

 

[GoMig-21]

Only in your fantasy World
Egyptian Armed Forces thread = 90% fake news and delusional projects without any agreement

Oh come on. I was only messing with you lol where's your sense of humor?

And what's wrong with the Egyptian Armed Forces thread? It's almost all pictures and videos what's fake about it? Pictures and videos don't lie.

 

[MMM-E]

And what's wrong with the Egyptian Armed Forces thread? It's almost all pictures and videos what's fake about it? Pictures and videos don't lie.

I am following Egyptian Armed Forces thread since 2017
and a lot of fake news and delusional projects without any agreement

from Youtube Videos .... ( The SC and You sharing all those Youtube videos )

only a few examples
1-- Egypt buys SCORPENE - BARRACUDA Submarines ..... no any agreement yet

on the other hand Turkiye produce 6 Type-214TN class AIP Submarines
and Turkish MILDEN class AIP Submarine production start in 2025


2-- #25 The possibility to manufacture the Chinese FC-31 fifth generation fighter in Egypt

as always not confirmed project
on the other hand Turkish KAAN , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 projects are real


3-- You are still showing SU-35 photos .... No any SU-35 to Egypt
USA blocked this agreement with Russia


4 -- #81 Youtube video says Egypt buys Aircraft Carrier from France .... no any agreement

on the other hand Turkiye has started 285m Aircraft Carrier project in 2024

and many more


SAMI-1 should stop trolling and lying about Turkiye and Turkish Military Projects