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[PakAl]

The problem is they are not really showing that they care about, for the first time they declared pkk as forbidden organisation. Wtf is that? Why not terror organisation?

If they take action and guarantee that our equipments not end in the arms of hashdies then we will give them weapons. But as i wrote before they should take action against pkk.

It's not as easy as this, what if you take extreme action and innocents die, the rebels will use that against Turkey.

 

[PakAl]

I've been thinking about this for a while as well. The only problem that area is techinically part of the KRG and the main Iraqi govt is rather restricted in controlling that area, as technically thats devolved to the KRG. The US and UK fked over Iraq since the time of Saddam with the No fly zone over Northern Iraq, and then the formalization of the KRG after the Iraq war invasion.

Iraq's military was battered. And the state was purposely made weak, so at this point Iraq functions as free reasestate for anyone and everyone. The US has a base in iraq and refuses to leave, Israelis function out of the KRG with no ability of the govt in Baghdad to do anything, everyone already knows the situation with the Iranian backed militias. etc etc.

The have no read air force and air defense and air control, so people fly over Iraq and do drone strikes, Israelis carry out bombings, missiles fly over, etc etc.

They were flying some cessnas before in 2014 the US sold them F-16s to provide air support against the Daesh fight. before that the air force was purposely kept weak and destroyed during the US occupation.

Usa did this on purpose, they created a mini Israel which is or will be anti Syria Iraq Turkey and Iran. Turkey should amend their relations with Syria and recognise full Syrian territory, joint operations with SAA to destroy Kurdish rebels in Syria and secure the area, then establish close relations with Iran and Iraq and do the same in North Iraq, bring total control of Iraqi government and finish off PKK and other separatists. Any plan to weaken Syrian Arab nationalist government will hurt Turkey more, and weaker Iraq will also.

 

[Foinikas]

I think the best way to do this, would be if Turkey did it for them, in the upcoming operation.

Go in, and keep going south until you hit the Arab area.

I wonder...if they reached Kirkuk,would they hand it over to the Iraqi government?

Or would they keep it by installing a Turkmen government there and create a client State that would be de facto under Turkish control?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

It's difficult to be a Turk for you're fighting against the world, and it's more difficult not to be a Turk for you're fighting against the Turks - Fatih Sultan Mehmet Han, the Conqueror of Constantinople ["Constantinople will be conquered by the Muslims. What a wonderful commander and what a wonderful army who will do that" - Hadis-i Sherif]

It's a first step toward realizing the Misak- i Milli (the national resolve to get back the Turkish folks' "promised lands")....

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[Sarsilmaz]

USA will try to protect them against Turkey.

Recently, I heard that USA has provided them with proper airdefesne systems which enabled PKK terrorists to have a collection of downed drones. From Anka to TB-2.

Nothing new, the USA has been doing this for 40 years. But it didn't help the 40,000 eliminated terrorists.

 

[muhammed45]

Nothing new, the USA has been doing this for 40 years. But it didn't help the 40,000 eliminated terrorists.

We have eliminated more of them till today.

They have always been a threat to every country that hosts them. The major foothold of Americans in Syria was YPG. Not to mention that biggest funding side was in UAE.

Arabs under American leadership have had a long history of supporting separatist elements in Syria, Iran, Iraq and Turkey and Pakistan also in Afghanistan with a different shape. Funding BLA by UAE and JuA by KSA are simplest of examples for it.

In case of Kurdish separatists and terrorists such as YPG, PKK and Pejak, the Arab monarchies have also done a great job.

This concern is a mutual concern among those mentioned countries that have always been a target for American imperialists. Goal is to keep Israel safe and destabilize other non compliant states. What makes regional cooperation against them impossible is, first of all Turkey is a NATO member state. Secondly, Turkey puts opportunism and short time benefits above long term strategies hence developing cordial relations with Barzani clan and transferring energy from central Asia and Caucasus into Israel. Maybe in the hope of befriending Americans. But you forget that in their eyes we are all brownie Muzzies sentenced to death.

Politically, militarily and strategically, Turkey is in the wrong camp. But hey, what could we do after sykes picot? TThey have literally occupied Turkey and then defined new history and identity for once a great Islamic empire. Just go through @Hakikat ve Hikmet 's quotes and see the huge identity crisis by your own eyes. Are we NATO or Islamic? Are we Muslims or remnants of Mongol invaders? Are we Muslims or liberals? Are we this or that?

I don't deny that most of Muslim masses have similar problem as the so called Turks of Turkey do, but at least, we are not under NATO's occupation. That leaves us with some degree of freedom and we can define our national interest in accordance with Islamic standards not NATO or EU standards.

 

[Mehmed Bey]

So called Turks in Turkey, don't consume too much drugs. That's sentences describes , your pseudo intellectual drivel. Let alone, the obvious hypocrisy of complaining about YPG , they are your Allies. Correct or not?

 

[MMM-E]

But it didn't help the 40,000 eliminated terrorists.

not 40.000 but over 120.000 since 1985 in Turkiye , Iraq and Syria

As of 2022
Total of 36.143 terrorists were eliminated between 2015 and 2022

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Pençe-Kilit Operasyonu kapsamında 397 terörist etkisiz hale getirildi. Ocak ayından itibaren etkisiz hale getirilen terörist sayısı 2 bin 874'e yükseldi. Millî Savunma Bakanı Akar, "En son terörist etkisiz hâle getirilinceye kadar mücadelemiz devam edecek. 2015'ten bugüne kadar 36 bin 143...

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That leaves us with some degree of freedom and we can define our national interest in accordance with Islamic standards not NATO or EU standards.

as like killing hundreds of thousands of muslim Syrian civilians in Syria with the help of christian country Russia ?

Iran is nothing to do with Islamic standard

Iran killed more muslims than Israel

 

[hyperman]

Usa did this on purpose, they created a mini Israel which is or will be anti Syria Iraq Turkey and Iran. Turkey should amend their relations with Syria and recognise full Syrian territory, joint operations with SAA to destroy Kurdish rebels in Syria and secure the area, then establish close relations with Iran and Iraq and do the same in North Iraq, bring total control of Iraqi government and finish off PKK and other separatists. Any plan to weaken Syrian Arab nationalist government will hurt Turkey more, and weaker Iraq will also.

Assad is collaborating with the PKK against Turkey they sent SAA soldiers to the border area to act as a buffer between turksih forces and the PKK. Turkey cannot outsource the fight against the PKK to Assad, b/c Assad always tries to use the PKK as leverage against Turkey. Turkey needs to do it by itself to do the job right. then negotiations will be done with Assad.

 

[hyperman]

I wonder...if they reached Kirkuk,would they hand it over to the Iraqi government?

Or would they keep it by installing a Turkmen government there and create a client State that would be de facto under Turkish control?

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They are not going all the way to Kirkuk, only the border areas, and around north of mosul and up to sinjar or tal afar. Which the PKK is operating in.

Kirkuk issue is going to be handled differently, via negotiations with Baghdad to ensure the rights and safety of Turkmen are enshrined legally.

 

[PakAl]

Assad is collaborating with the PKK against Turkey they sent SAA soldiers to the border area to act as a buffer between turksih forces and the PKK. Turkey cannot outsource the fight against the PKK to Assad, b/c Assad always tries to use the PKK as leverage against Turkey. Turkey needs to do it by itself to do the job right. then negotiations will be done with Assad.

Assad was fighting against Kurds until Turkey/Usa/Saudi/Qatar/Israel started to fund the rebels to overthrow him, his SAA were only allowed to enter Kurdish areas when Turkey sent their army to occupy Syrian territory. Syria had been a quiet front for Turkey until the so called Arab spring.

 

[Eşbah]

Assad is collaborating with the PKK against Turkey (...)

So is İran.

 

[hyperman]

Assad was fighting against Kurds until Turkey/Usa/Saudi/Qatar/Israel started to fund the rebels to overthrow him, his SAA were only allowed to enter Kurdish areas when Turkey sent their army to occupy Syrian territory. Syria had been a quiet front for Turkey until the so called Arab spring.

Assad used the PKK before, he was harboring Ocalan in the 90s. This menace needs to be dealt with directly and decisively. This BS is older than the Syrian Civil War.

Also he trying to empty Syria of all his opposition, he has driven anyone thats a potential threat, namely sunni Arabs, as he is Alevi, out of Syria. Turkey's operations are of two parts, to destroy the PKK as well as create a 30km safe zone inside Syria, were refugees can return.

 

[hyperman]

So is İran.

Iran can be reasoned with, there are common interests in them wanting the Kurdish separatism to be curtailed and with the US and Israeli presence to be removed.

Assad is a two timing SOB, you can't trust him with anything, there are rumors he passed on intelligence to the Israelis that resulted in them wiping out the IRGC officiers stationed in Syria.

He will throw anyone under the bus to survive.

 

[Oublious]

Assad never controlled north side of Syria, he did give them partly autonomy. He gived no fak about as long they give ther words to the regime .