Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Khansaheeb]

Mehdi Hasan on top form:-

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[Indos]

What happened with Amalek is similar with what happened with jews in Khaybar or with banu Qaynuqa, they all are exterminated.

What ? Nope. God only ordered to kill grown up men since they are the soldiers of that group. This happened since they are traitor, Muslim has made the pact with Jews and Christians and recorded in Madinah charter, Jews and Christian will be protected. But they betray and make cooperation with Mecca to attack Muslim in Madinah. Women and kids are not touched.

Due to small power of Madinah during that time, killing the grown up men is very rational move and this God order. God later impose war of conduct where even prisoner of war should be treated well, let alone the enemy civilians.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Exactly, it is all about perception. And perceptions is built on the ground of narratives and ideology.



Sure.

But they shouldn't support attack like 7th Oct 2023, coz it will justify Israel to decimate the group/regime they are supporting to the certain extend.

Under International law the occupied have a right to undertake oct 7th 2023, even Nazi Germany understood this but contemporary supporters of genocide don't want to understand this.

 

[Khansaheeb]

How can you conquer these children?:-

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[Khansaheeb]

Israeliars are not serious about negotiating peace , so why is Egypt wasting Hamas time?

Hamas receives latest Israeli proposal amid efforts to revive Gaza talks

Hamas says it is ‘open to any ideas’ but sticks to its demand that a deal must permanently end the Gaza war.

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Hamas receives latest Israeli proposal amid efforts to revive Gaza talks​

Palestinian group Hamas says it is ‘open to any ideas’ but sticks to its demand that a deal must permanently end Israel’s war on Gaza.

Khalil al-Hayya, a high-ranking Hamas official who has represented the Palestinian group in negotiations for a ceasefire and captive exchange deal in Gaza, sits in front of a backdrop showing the old city of Jerusalem in Istanbul, Turkey, on April 24, 2024 [Khalil Hamra/AP Photo]
Published On 27 Apr 202427 Apr 2024

Hamas has received Israel’s official response to its latest Gaza ceasefire proposal and the Palestinian group will study the document before submitting a reply, the organisation’s deputy Gaza chief Khalil al-Hayya said in a statement.
“Hamas has received today the official response of the Zionist occupation to the proposal presented to the Egyptian and the Qatari mediators on April 13,” al-Hayya, who is currently based in Qatar, said in a statement published by the group on Saturday.

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After more than six months of Israel’s brutal war on the Gaza Strip, negotiations to bring about a ceasefire remain deadlocked, with Hamas sticking to its demands that any agreement with Israel must bring an end to Israel’s war on the Palestinian enclave.
An Egyptian delegation visited Israel for discussion with Israeli officials on Friday, looking for a way to restart talks to end the conflict and return remaining captives held in Gaza following the October 7 attacks on southern Israel, an official briefed on the meetings told the French news agency AFP.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also said Israel had no new proposals to make, although it was willing to consider a limited truce in which 33 captives would be released by Hamas, instead of the 40 previously under discussion. On Thursday, the United States and 17 other countries appealed to Hamas to release all of its captives as a pathway to end the war.
In a statement issued on Friday, Hamas said it was “open to any ideas or proposals that take into account the needs and rights of our people”.
However, the group stuck to its key demand that Israel end its war on Gaza and criticised the joint statement issued by the US and others for not calling for a permanent ceasefire, and the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the war-torn Palestinian enclave.




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Citing two Israeli officials, Axios reported that Israel told Egyptian mediators that it was ready to give negotiations on the release of captives “one last chance”, before moving forward with a ground invasion of Rafah, the last refuge for about a million Palestinians who fled attacks by Israeli forces further north in Gaza earlier in the war.
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[Khansaheeb]

@MimiVerbana​

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Google started out as the fun little hippy alternative search engine to AOL. Then their maps were cool ...but now its morphed into dystopian nightmare. Too bad YT sold out.


Google fires workers in support of genocide:-

No Tech for Apartheid: Google Workers Arrested for Protesting Company’s $1.2B Contract with Israel​

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[Khansaheeb]

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[Khansaheeb]

You are not christian, so you dont understand Bible hence no ground to speak about your interpretation. Killing Amalek was only one time instruction because God see all Amalek was evil. No more kind of instruction after that.

While Jihad against infidel is not one time instruction. Banu Qaynuqa or Khaibar were not attacking but being attacked so those were not about being defensive.

Intifada and all Hamas wars against Israel are all to fullfill Jihad call and not defensive in nature.

Gaza attack: What is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad?

Palestinian Islamic Jihad was founded in 1981 with the aim of establishing a Palestinian state in occupied territories.

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1988 Hamas charter - Wikipedia

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So you pleaded for them to give you refuge and then you murder them and steal their land and homes , spilled the blood of babies all over their land and you have the audacity to say they are attacking you.

 

[Indos]

While Jihad against infidel is not one time instruction. Banu Qaynuqa or Khaibar were not attacking but being attacked so those were not about being defensive.

Gaza attack: What is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad?

Palestinian Islamic Jihad was founded in 1981 with the aim of establishing a Palestinian state in occupied territories.

www.aljazeera.com

1988 Hamas charter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have read your bible dude, the later version when you cannot buy it in Indonesia because it not yet being revised by Christian Church for what ever the reasons. Your bible are frequently changed

Stop misleading information or I will ban you. I have asked you to bring the verses so I can explain. I have work to do, so if you give the verses, I would likely explained it at night after I finish my work

Do not like many Muslim/Christian who depend the information about their religion based on your Priest/Ulama. Read your own holly book until finish. Have you done it ? I have with Quran with translation more than once

 

[Antonius123]

I have read your bible dude, the later version when you cannot buy it in Indonesia because it not yet being revised by Christian Church for what ever the reasons. Your bible are frequently changed

Stop misleading information or I will ban you. I have asked you to bring the verses so I can explain. I have work to do, so if you give the verses, I would likely explained it at night after I finish my work

Do not like many Muslim/Christian who depend the information about their religion based on your Priest/Ulama. Read your own holly book until finish. Have you done it ? I have with Quran with translation more than once

Nope, what you said about Bible is utterly wrong, nonsense and blatant harassment on other religion.

But I dont want to derail this thread from Gaza issue to become religion issue, esp as you have started to attack holy book of other religion. You are the moderator now that has to guard it from being derailed instead of me, and be a good role model for not breaking the rules.

But since you have threatened me to ban me for having argument with you, it is abuse of power that you are doing now. So from here I will stop discussion with you. And it is reported.

Thank you.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Nobody support genocide.

By saying Israel is doing genocide, it already signify that you are embracing Hamas narratives, regardless you admit or not admit it, aware or not aware.

That "Israel is doing genocide" is still an "accusation" or even an "allegation" rather than solid fact.
Ref:

Palestinian genocide allegations - Wikipedia

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And another question is: why you only accuse Israel is doing genocide but not accuse Russia over ukraines, or British over German people in Nurenberg in the past, etc for doing the same?

It is no longer an allegation but a fact that any reasonable person can see, Israel is committing a genocide comparable to historical genocides as defined by the UN Conventions.

 

[Musings]

Nope, what you said about Bible is utterly wrong, nonsense and blatant harassment on other religion.

But I dont want to derail this thread from Gaza issue to become religion issue, esp as you have started to attack holy book of other religion. You are the moderator now that has to guard it from being derailed instead of me.

But since you have threatened me to ban me for having argument with you, it is abuse of power that you are doing now. So from here I will stop discussion with you. And it is reported.

Thank you.

Look at the title of the thread and look where you have ended up. I ask you one last time to stick to the topic or start a different thread. You are derailing the thread then blaming a new moderator.
Stop it. I don’t wish to give you an infraction or ban but you are making it hard….

 

[Dalit]

Be free, and do not hesitate to speak the truth, free your conscience
Act on your humanity and reject Zionist genocide..

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Now you know just how rigged the game is. Just how far they are willing to go to silence anyone who criticises their genocidal actions.

It is too late though. The damage is done.

 

[Musings]

It is no longer an allegation but a fact that any reasonable person can see, Israel is committing a genocide comparable to historical genocides as defined by the UN Conventions.

Because you point out that this is going on as ground realities - you are labelled a Hamas sympathiser or an anti semite. These cockroaches are really the lowest. This is genocide - collective punishment and a slaughter of innocent children…..

 

[Antonius123]

Look at the title of the thread and look where you have ended up. I ask you one last time to stick to the topic or start a different thread. You are derailing the thread then blaming a new moderator.
Stop it. I don’t wish to give you an infraction or ban but you are making it hard….

I cannot say other than my true and genuine opinions, in spite of conflicting with other opinions.

I already stopped posting my comment here in this thread long time ago, but he @Indos tagging me accusing me loosing moral compas, that's why I came back here and addressing that accusation.

And i dont know he already become moderator now.