Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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PaklovesTurkiye
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Lot of accidents happening there lmao
Shadihassan28
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See honestly I think a lot people here sometimes get this confusion that this is a fight between Muslims and Jews it’s really not it’s a fight to get back what’s stolen from those Palestinians everyday it’s a fight between two people an apartheid state yes but in the end it’s not about religion but what was stolen from Palestinians I really don’t care with anyone of each o those societies make it about some holy war when they either invoke jihad, which doesn’t mean holy war by the way or Zionists zealots who have perverse than their society almost beyond redemption
FuturePAF
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Look what the Hoover institution out of Stanford is up to try to do in hopes of smearing the protests; putting in fake protestors to malign the movement.
Btw, this looks like Marshall Kosloff (not 100% sure, but looks and sounds like him) of the realignment podcast. Looks like we see what he’s been up to recently. (I know him because he a friend of Saagar Enjeti from the Breaking points news channel). Use to watch Marshall’s videos. Hope this isn’t him. I hope Saagar disavows Marshall, or my original assessment that Saagar is playing the Washington game, akin to Hillary Clinton, will be proven correct.
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P.S. looks like I was right, It’s him.
I hope someone shows this video to Saagar and Krystal.
Btw, good to watch from this part to this part (with a comment abut Pakistan 14:10) 13:10-23:50
He admits at 17:35 that it is astroturfing
Now you can see how brave the student protesters are, and what abuse they are facing.
Btw, the Hoover institute out of Stanford is the torchbearer for Neocon ideology on the west coast.
Look at their fellows. In the video above they talk about the fellowship are the foot soldiers of the conservative movement (14:55) so see who these fellows are:
The students protestors at Stanford really should be protesting this institute that tries to get America into foreign wars.
One of the organizers for the more aggressive anti-BDS pro-israel protestors is Noah Pollack (13:25 - 14:15, he the guy that made the anti-Pakistan comment as well). He been working for more than a decade to malign the BDS movement at shape US policy towards the Middle East on behalf of Israel’s interests.
So Pollak helping to organizing the protests shows that the pro-Israel protests are clearly disingenuous. The students need to keep doing what they are doing, and people of conscious need to support them.
Btw, this looks like Marshall Kosloff (not 100% sure, but looks and sounds like him) of the realignment podcast. Looks like we see what he’s been up to recently. (I know him because he a friend of Saagar Enjeti from the Breaking points news channel). Use to watch Marshall’s videos. Hope this isn’t him. I hope Saagar disavows Marshall, or my original assessment that Saagar is playing the Washington game, akin to Hillary Clinton, will be proven correct.
Marshall Kosloff
P.S. looks like I was right, It’s him.
I hope someone shows this video to Saagar and Krystal.
Btw, good to watch from this part to this part (with a comment abut Pakistan 14:10) 13:10-23:50
He admits at 17:35 that it is astroturfing
Now you can see how brave the student protesters are, and what abuse they are facing.
Btw, the Hoover institute out of Stanford is the torchbearer for Neocon ideology on the west coast.
Look at their fellows. In the video above they talk about the fellowship are the foot soldiers of the conservative movement (14:55) so see who these fellows are:
The students protestors at Stanford really should be protesting this institute that tries to get America into foreign wars.
One of the organizers for the more aggressive anti-BDS pro-israel protestors is Noah Pollack (13:25 - 14:15, he the guy that made the anti-Pakistan comment as well). He been working for more than a decade to malign the BDS movement at shape US policy towards the Middle East on behalf of Israel’s interests.
So Pollak helping to organizing the protests shows that the pro-Israel protests are clearly disingenuous. The students need to keep doing what they are doing, and people of conscious need to support them.
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FuturePAF
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This is what the pro-Israel protestors looked like at Columbia. Personally I didn’t see this, but I did hear a pro-Israel protestor mutter to his friend walking next to him away from the main protest, that all of “them” should be killed. Couldn’t tell if he meant the protestors at Columbia or Palestinians in general. Btw, the number of pro-Israel protestors were in the hundreds not thousands like the media says. They were in two groups, one by morningside park and one by the main gate. And many seemed older and/or just kinda there. No doubt there were diehard pro-Israel people. But some seemed there to make up numbers. I can see they can buy protestors for $50k and benefits like Marshall says.
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BHAN85
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Sabotage?
I think modern cars must have a million backdoors to use it remotely by states who know it, e.g: USA.
Unknowntruth
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This who they are, a bunch of genocidal maniac who love to play victim when are exposed.
FuturePAF
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It’s the continued war and how the Israelis and their supporters are waging it that is de-legitimizing them in the minds of the world.
The smart think tank crowd is point it out, but blindness due to fear and hate is consuming them to irrationality.
Furthermore, going after Rafah, put pressure on Egypt to act, increasing the chances that government falls, which could be a domino to make other regimes in the region fall. The chances a more friendly regime to Israel emerges out of that is highly unlikely.
Gaza is Israel’s quicksand. Now Israel is trying to bring a “Sons of Palestine” (modeled on the “Sons of Iraq”) to do their dirty work, to distribute the aid Israel allows in, and take on the armed groups in Gaza. This is a way to avoid negotiations and ending the war.
10:20-13:00
The smart think tank crowd is point it out, but blindness due to fear and hate is consuming them to irrationality.
Furthermore, going after Rafah, put pressure on Egypt to act, increasing the chances that government falls, which could be a domino to make other regimes in the region fall. The chances a more friendly regime to Israel emerges out of that is highly unlikely.
Gaza is Israel’s quicksand. Now Israel is trying to bring a “Sons of Palestine” (modeled on the “Sons of Iraq”) to do their dirty work, to distribute the aid Israel allows in, and take on the armed groups in Gaza. This is a way to avoid negotiations and ending the war.
10:20-13:00
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Khansaheeb
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Dirty Israelis killed him, an old man in a wheelchair, who preached return of stolen land.
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AIPAC Paid woman wants criminals to be supported rather than the victims:-
By Laura Kuenssberg,Presenter, Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg
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Nancy Pelosi has been critical of Israel but says what Hamas did in the country also needs to be recognised
Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker of the US House of Representatives, has urged protesters on college campuses to protest against Hamas' behaviour as well as Israel's conduct of the Gaza war.
Hundreds of people have been arrested on dozens of campuses across the US, where protests and encampments have sprung up in support of Palestinians in Gaza.
Ms Pelosi, who is a close ally of US President Joe Biden, told the BBC there was "complete justification" for speaking out about the growing humanitarian crisis there and the impact on civilians of Israel's bombardment was almost "unforgiveable".
She has also criticised the actions of the Israeli government while arguing it has a right to self-defence, and is no fan of the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
However, she said she wanted the demonstrators to reflect on their tactics and also condemn Hamas's actions on 7 October.
"We would like to see some of that enthusiasm recognise Hamas as a terrorist organisation that did a barbaric thing in Israel," she said.
Ms Pelosi had her speech at the Oxford Union in the UK interrupted by protesters on Thursday night. Demonstrators also dumped manure outside her own home in California.
"I've said to those [protesters]...do you care about what Hamas has done, do you care about what happened in Israel, would you not, if that happened here would we not have a response?"
The war in Gaza began when Hamas-led gunmen carried out an unprecedented attack on southern Israel on 7 October, killing about 1,200 people - mostly civilians - and taking 253 others back to Gaza as hostages.
Since then, at least 34,356 people - most of them children and women - have been killed in Gaza, the territory's Hamas-run health ministry says.
The UN has warned of an impending humanitarian catastrophe and Israel has faced accusations of limiting the amount of aid reaching civilians by land.
Activists in the US have been calling for universities to "divest from genocide" and to stop investing large school endowments in companies involved in weapons manufacturing and other industries supporting Israel's war in Gaza.
Israel is currently facing a case brought by South Africa at the International Court of Justice alleging that it is committing genocide against the Palestinians, an accusation Israel has rejected as "baseless".
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Protests have been taking place in several states including Washington, California and Georgia
She said such protests on college campuses were a "way of life" in the US and that there was "complete justification" for objecting to what has been happening.
"What's happening in Gaza challenges the consciousness of the world," she said.
Some of the protesters on US campuses have been accused of antisemitism. A number of Jewish students have said they have felt unsafe at Columbia and at other universities, although other Jewish students have joined the demonstrations.
Ms Pelosi said protesters needed to think about their tactics, asking: "What is their message, what is their purpose?"
She rejected the suggestion from the current leader of the House of Representatives, Mike Johnson, that the National Guard should be sent in to deal with the protests.
Universities have brought in police to force students to leave but some are negotiating with the demonstrators and say these talks are showing progress.
Pelosi urges Gaza campus protesters to target Hamas as well as Israel
21 hours agoBy Laura Kuenssberg,Presenter, Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg
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Nancy Pelosi has been critical of Israel but says what Hamas did in the country also needs to be recognised
Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker of the US House of Representatives, has urged protesters on college campuses to protest against Hamas' behaviour as well as Israel's conduct of the Gaza war.
Hundreds of people have been arrested on dozens of campuses across the US, where protests and encampments have sprung up in support of Palestinians in Gaza.
Ms Pelosi, who is a close ally of US President Joe Biden, told the BBC there was "complete justification" for speaking out about the growing humanitarian crisis there and the impact on civilians of Israel's bombardment was almost "unforgiveable".
She has also criticised the actions of the Israeli government while arguing it has a right to self-defence, and is no fan of the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
However, she said she wanted the demonstrators to reflect on their tactics and also condemn Hamas's actions on 7 October.
"We would like to see some of that enthusiasm recognise Hamas as a terrorist organisation that did a barbaric thing in Israel," she said.
Ms Pelosi had her speech at the Oxford Union in the UK interrupted by protesters on Thursday night. Demonstrators also dumped manure outside her own home in California.
"I've said to those [protesters]...do you care about what Hamas has done, do you care about what happened in Israel, would you not, if that happened here would we not have a response?"
The war in Gaza began when Hamas-led gunmen carried out an unprecedented attack on southern Israel on 7 October, killing about 1,200 people - mostly civilians - and taking 253 others back to Gaza as hostages.
Since then, at least 34,356 people - most of them children and women - have been killed in Gaza, the territory's Hamas-run health ministry says.
The UN has warned of an impending humanitarian catastrophe and Israel has faced accusations of limiting the amount of aid reaching civilians by land.
Activists in the US have been calling for universities to "divest from genocide" and to stop investing large school endowments in companies involved in weapons manufacturing and other industries supporting Israel's war in Gaza.
Israel is currently facing a case brought by South Africa at the International Court of Justice alleging that it is committing genocide against the Palestinians, an accusation Israel has rejected as "baseless".
Protests have been taking place in several states including Washington, California and Georgia
She said such protests on college campuses were a "way of life" in the US and that there was "complete justification" for objecting to what has been happening.
"What's happening in Gaza challenges the consciousness of the world," she said.
Some of the protesters on US campuses have been accused of antisemitism. A number of Jewish students have said they have felt unsafe at Columbia and at other universities, although other Jewish students have joined the demonstrations.
Ms Pelosi said protesters needed to think about their tactics, asking: "What is their message, what is their purpose?"
She rejected the suggestion from the current leader of the House of Representatives, Mike Johnson, that the National Guard should be sent in to deal with the protests.
Universities have brought in police to force students to leave but some are negotiating with the demonstrators and say these talks are showing progress.
Antonius123
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Israel is a terror state who is explicitly target civilians. These strikes are just the ones that have been recorded by NBC News themselves. There is a reason they cut off electricity and internet to Gaza. It is so they can do their genocide freely.
NBC News investigation reveals Israel strikes on Gaza areas it said were safe
April 26, 2024, 4:20 PM EDT
By Hala Gorani and Briony Sowden
TEL AVIV — An NBC News investigation into seven deadly airstrikes has found Palestinians were killed in areas of southern Gaza that the Israeli military had explicitly designated as safe zones.
The attacks took place from January to April, as Israel’s military bombarded Rafah from the air and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s governmentsignaled its intent to launch a full-scale ground invasion on Gaza’s southernmost city, which has now swelled to more than 1 million people.
NBC News camera crews filmed the bloody aftermath of the six strikes on Rafah itself and one strike farther north on the Al-Mawasi humanitarian zone, which was also designated safe by Israel.
The crews compiled the GPS coordinates of each strike, all of which hit an area identified by the Israeli military as an evacuation zone in an online interactive map it published on Dec. 1. The map has not been updated since then and the Israel Defense Forces told NBC News in a statement Sunday that it remained accurate.
International aid agencies and Gazans have called the map confusing and difficult to read. Regular cellular and internet blackouts since the start of the war would also have made it difficult for civilians to access it.
NBC News investigation reveals Israel strikes on Gaza areas it said were safe
NBC News found Palestinians were killed in seven deadly airstrikes in areas of southern Gaza that the Israeli military had explicitly designated as safe zones.www.nbcnews.com
War is dynamic. Once the place is considered safe could be no longer so when Hamas militant start moving there.
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Antonius123
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Israel typically argues that its actions are defensive and necessary for the security of its citizens. For example, the Israeli government describes its control in the West Bank as a security measure rather than a desire for territorial expansion. It also points to offers it has made during peace negotiations that were not accepted, which, in their view, complicates the narrative that Israel is solely an aggressor.
The concept of "victimhood" in the conflict is contested by both sides. Israelis often see themselves as victims of ongoing hostility and terrorism, including rocket attacks from Gaza and other forms of violence targeting civilians. Palestinians, conversely, see themselves as victims of an ongoing occupation that affects their daily lives, freedom of movement, and right to self-determination.
International perspectives vary widely, with some countries supporting Israel, others supporting the Palestinians, and many advocating for a two-state solution that acknowledges the rights and aspirations of both sides.
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