Turkey Iraq - News & Updates

[LegionnairE]

*sigh*

If I speak a bit of Japanese,will you think I'm from Japan and get over with it?

Enough with your nonsense. I spoke a tiny bit of broken Serbo-Croatian and since that day you've been saying that I'm a Serb. Get over with it. I'm not a Serb.

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[hyperman]

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[hyperman]

Gentleman, as you can see the title of this thread is "Operations in Northern Iraq" Please stay on topic. No discussions on anything other than Northern Iraq operations and the PKK. There are other threads where you can hash out your other disagreements.

 

[Foinikas]

Gentleman, as you can see the title of this thread is "Operations in Northern Iraq" Please stay on topic. No discussions on anything other than Northern Iraq operations and the PKK. There are other threads where you can hash out your other disagreements.

By the way,if the PMU actually clears Northern Iraq of PKK,it will be a win for Turkey. Much easier for them. I don't know if the Peshmerga would help them,but still it would be interesting from a military point of view.

 

[hyperman]

By the way,if the PMU actually clears Northern Iraq of PKK,it will be a win for Turkey. Much easier for them. I don't know if the Peshmerga would help them,but still it would be interesting from a military point of view.

Indeed it would but at some level I'm skeptical b/c the PKK at one point was embedded inside a unit of Hashd Al Shabbi. So its an internal process for them to weed out people they themselves incorporated. Lets see. But this news is positive nonetheless.

 

[Foinikas]

Indeed it would but at some level I'm skeptical b/c the PKK at one point was embedded inside a unit of Hashd Al Shabbi. So its an internal process for them to weed out people they themselves incorporated. Lets see. But this news is positive nonetheless.

It's always been a fragile peace between Iraqis and Kurds. But then again,it's officially Iraq even though the territory is an autonomous Kurdish region.

 

[hyperman]

It's always been a fragile peace between Iraqis and Kurds. But then again,it's officially Iraq even though the territory is an autonomous Kurdish region.

Yes but the Official elements are Baghdad and the KRG which is run by the KDP. The PKK has no legitimacy in Iraq, its an insurgent group from Turkey thats latched on and using the political vacuum left behind since the chaos of Iraq. Eventually they will make a play for the KRG against the KDP as well, so they are a threat for them as well. KDP went to war with them in the past, Everyone has mutual interests here in getting rid of these foreign backed actors.

 

[Foinikas]

The PKK has no legitimacy in Iraq,

It has little legitimacy generally,but oh well

 

[hyperman]

It has little legitimacy generally,but oh well

nah almost none. You will find Iraqi Kurds tend to be more religious than Turkish Kurds(the Iraqis didn't go through kemalization post ottoman era), so this foreign atheist marxist organization is looked at quite suspiciously, they tend to prefer the KDP. The PKK has never been able to make headway outside of latching on to the Yezidis, but even there, there is some tension. For the most part they have no presence in cities, they are in mountains in Qandil. Like for example in elections, you don't see them win elections in Iraq like you would see the HDP get votes in Turkey. Outside of maybe the PUK, they don't have any allies in Iraq, but the PUK Kurds are Sorani Kurds and that partnership is more KDP PUK rivalry, where the PUK tries to undercut the KDP's control over Kurmanji Kurds by trying to prop up the PKK to use against the PDP, but its very little traction.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I am really not too familiar with PKK history

But they certainly have much tension being located between Turkey-Iran region which ironically was all part Turkey before World War 1

May be if Turkey , was the old Turkey before World War 1 , they would all have 1 passport

Turkey-Kurd-Iraqi Arabs etc

World War 1 did create these issues which are still alive after so many years

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Turkey has advanced 15 kilometers into Iraqi Kurdistan Region territory: Monitor​

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KURDISTAN

Pictures showing Turkish bombardment in the Kurdistan Region on July 2, 2024. Photo: Rudaw​

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ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - The Turkish army has advanced 15 kilometers deep into the Kurdistan Region’s territory and carried out hundreds of strikes as part of its new military operation targeting Kurdish fighters, a conflict monitor said on Sunday.

Turkey late last month sent hundreds of troops and military vehicles into the Kurdistan Region, establishing checkpoints and military patrols in Duhok province’s Barwari Bala area. Its latest military campaign has instilled renewed fears into villagers, with at least one village abandoned.

“The new operation in the Barwari Bala area signifies the depth of Turkish military ground operations into Iraqi Kurdistan. Turkish Armed Forces have advanced 15 kms into Iraqi Kurdistan Territory,” the Community Peacemaker Teams (CPT), a US-based human rights organization and conflict monitor tracking Ankara’s operations in the Kurdistan Region, said in a statement.

“Since the start of the new Turkish military operation, Turkey has conducted 238 bombardments in Iraqi Kurdistan, primarily in the Duhok governorate. As a result of Turkish bombardments, more than 20,000 dunams of agricultural lands have burned,” the monitor added.

Ankara’s military incursion this time around is a significant increase over its military operation in 2021, dubbed Claw-Lightning, when its army had only advanced 7 kilometers into Kurdistan Region territory, according to CPT.

The campaign is aimed at curbing stated threats from the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) along its border with the Kurdistan Region.

The PKK is a Kurdish group that has waged an armed insurgency against the Turkish state for decades in the struggle for greater Kurdish rights and is designated a terrorist organization by Ankara.

Rudaw has learned that the Turkish army has begun operations near Kani Masi and Mount Metina in Duhok province. Soldiers patrol the area with heavy weapons and have created several checkpoints - the main of which being near Balave and Belizani villages on the main road between Bamarni and Kani Masi subdistricts, about 57 kilometers northeast of Duhok city.

Clashes between Turkish forces and PKK fighters have caused numerous wildfires. Each side blames the other for the blazes.

“In the village of Sargale, approximately 55% of its agricultural land has been burnt by Turkish attacks. Turkish operations in Iraqi Kurdistan place at least 602 villages under the threat of displacement with at least 162 already displaced,” CPT stressed.

Civilian infrastructure has also been destroyed in the operation, which includes a school in Amedi district’s Mizhe village and an Assyrian church in the village of Mishka.

The Iraqi government and the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) have yet to comment on the escalations in Duhok province.

Baghdad earlier this year labeled PKK as a banned organization ahead of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s rare visit to Iraq in April. Both countries signed numerous agreements that included security.

The recent escalation in attacks is a part of Turkey’s plans to eradicate the Kurdish group along its southern border with the Kurdistan Region. Erdogan said in March that Ankara is close to completing a zone that will “permanently resolve” the security issues along their border with the Kurdistan Region and Iraq by the summer.

But Ankara’s relentless military strikes and the deployment of ground troops have also stoked fear in the local villagers of Duhok province’s mountainous areas, fearing displacement from their villages as mortar shells and constant gunfire prompt panic.

Turkey has carried out more than 1,076 attacks on the Kurdistan Region and Nineveh province so far in 2024, according to CPT data.

On Thursday, the Turkish defense ministry announced that one of its soldiers was killed by the PKK in Duhok province.

 

[MLK]

What many don't mention is that the KRG is okay with these Turkish strikes against their fellow Kurds in PKK. The Middle East is a real life Game of Thrones episode every day.

 

[Lulldapull]

Turkey has advanced 15 kilometers into Iraqi Kurdistan Region territory: Monitor​

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KURDISTAN

Pictures showing Turkish bombardment in the Kurdistan Region on July 2, 2024. Photo: Rudaw​

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ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - The Turkish army has advanced 15 kilometers deep into the Kurdistan Region’s territory and carried out hundreds of strikes as part of its new military operation targeting Kurdish fighters, a conflict monitor said on Sunday.

Turkey late last month sent hundreds of troops and military vehicles into the Kurdistan Region, establishing checkpoints and military patrols in Duhok province’s Barwari Bala area. Its latest military campaign has instilled renewed fears into villagers, with at least one village abandoned.

“The new operation in the Barwari Bala area signifies the depth of Turkish military ground operations into Iraqi Kurdistan. Turkish Armed Forces have advanced 15 kms into Iraqi Kurdistan Territory,” the Community Peacemaker Teams (CPT), a US-based human rights organization and conflict monitor tracking Ankara’s operations in the Kurdistan Region, said in a statement.

“Since the start of the new Turkish military operation, Turkey has conducted 238 bombardments in Iraqi Kurdistan, primarily in the Duhok governorate. As a result of Turkish bombardments, more than 20,000 dunams of agricultural lands have burned,” the monitor added.

Ankara’s military incursion this time around is a significant increase over its military operation in 2021, dubbed Claw-Lightning, when its army had only advanced 7 kilometers into Kurdistan Region territory, according to CPT.

The campaign is aimed at curbing stated threats from the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) along its border with the Kurdistan Region.

The PKK is a Kurdish group that has waged an armed insurgency against the Turkish state for decades in the struggle for greater Kurdish rights and is designated a terrorist organization by Ankara.

Rudaw has learned that the Turkish army has begun operations near Kani Masi and Mount Metina in Duhok province. Soldiers patrol the area with heavy weapons and have created several checkpoints - the main of which being near Balave and Belizani villages on the main road between Bamarni and Kani Masi subdistricts, about 57 kilometers northeast of Duhok city.

Clashes between Turkish forces and PKK fighters have caused numerous wildfires. Each side blames the other for the blazes.

“In the village of Sargale, approximately 55% of its agricultural land has been burnt by Turkish attacks. Turkish operations in Iraqi Kurdistan place at least 602 villages under the threat of displacement with at least 162 already displaced,” CPT stressed.

Civilian infrastructure has also been destroyed in the operation, which includes a school in Amedi district’s Mizhe village and an Assyrian church in the village of Mishka.

The Iraqi government and the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) have yet to comment on the escalations in Duhok province.

Baghdad earlier this year labeled PKK as a banned organization ahead of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s rare visit to Iraq in April. Both countries signed numerous agreements that included security.

The recent escalation in attacks is a part of Turkey’s plans to eradicate the Kurdish group along its southern border with the Kurdistan Region. Erdogan said in March that Ankara is close to completing a zone that will “permanently resolve” the security issues along their border with the Kurdistan Region and Iraq by the summer.

But Ankara’s relentless military strikes and the deployment of ground troops have also stoked fear in the local villagers of Duhok province’s mountainous areas, fearing displacement from their villages as mortar shells and constant gunfire prompt panic.

Turkey has carried out more than 1,076 attacks on the Kurdistan Region and Nineveh province so far in 2024, according to CPT data.

On Thursday, the Turkish defense ministry announced that one of its soldiers was killed by the PKK in Duhok province.

After a day or two of shelling/ attacks, turkey runs out of money and soldiers…..and more importantly the will to fight it out.

It’s just sad bro……

It’s a lost cause these Kurds……

Iran should help beating back these CIA/Mossad Kurds, despite turkey being a chutiya outfit here because this is just becoming a worthless war and innocent people are dying.

 

[hodor]

First of all, the PKK is not Kurds, Turkey has no problem with Kurds. There are 15 million Kurds living in the country, there are Kurdish ministers in the cabinet. The majority of Kurds are against the PKK.

After a day or two of shelling/ attacks, turkey runs out of money and soldiers…..and more importantly the will to fight it out.

It’s just sad bro……

It’s a lost cause these Kurds……

Iran should help beating back these CIA/Mossad Kurds, despite turkey being a chutiya outfit here because this is just becoming a worthless war and innocent people are dying.

Turkey has been fighting the PKK for 40 years. We will never run out of soldiers or money. Our goal is to completely end the terrorism in Northern Iraq, which also targets Turkey from time to time.

We have been conducting air and ground operations in Northern Iraq for years. Not a single civilian has died. We are in a good situation in this regard.

 

[vsdoc]

Our old member I.R.A is somewhere in that region.

Cheers, Doc