Iranian Chill Thread

[Sarhang]

Yes of course I will defend Islam!

And there goes your objectivity and honesty. lol

Your entire post is pure garbage propaganda. I am not responsible for teaching you Iran's history (your own nation supposedly). You have the entire internet for you to search on about how the muslim armies invaded and raped and sacked one city/village after another.

Your beautiful Islamic utopia where all Iranians welcomed the invading muslim armies with flowers only exists in your head.

 

[Sarhang]

Islam is an ideology, Arabs invaded Persia. Also Persians adopted Islam and overthrew the Arab nationalist Ummayad empire and reigned supreme ever since. Islam is a huge part of Iranian history and a part of its culture and identity. Culture is not stagnant it's always developing especially over a period of 1400 years. It's like saying Roman Catholicism is not a part of Brazilian or Argentinian Identity and culture.

Also note is that Shia Islam differs from Sunni Islam on the concept of nationalism, In Sunniism it's discouraged and is seen as some form of shirk. In Shia Islam serving ones nation is seen as a form of Ibadah (worship to god). Dying for ones nation/country is a great honor and one is considered a Shaheed ( Martyr).

Also Twelver Shi'ism as a whole is inseparable from Iran and Iranian tradition. In the wider Muslim world Shiites are seen and called as Majoos/Magus (Zoroastrianism)

Shia tradition of fire plays in Karbala
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Arabs invaded with the intent of bringing Islamic ideology to Iran. We are talking about an invasion here. Intention is clear.

Anyway, hating on Islam now will not fix Iran's problems but repeating lies is an insult to basic human decency and intelligence.

 

[HamidAgha]

And there goes your objectivity and honesty. lol

Your entire post is pure garbage propaganda. I am not responsible for teaching you Iran's history (your own nation supposedly). You have the entire internet for you to search on about how the muslim armies invaded and raped and sacked one city/village after another.

Your beautiful Islamic utopia where all Iranians welcomed the invading muslim armies with flowers only exists in your head.

You're not exactly objective either, are you? "Lol"?

It's actually well documented history which is there for everyone to see. And until I see evidence to the contrary, which you have failed to provide, then that will remain as fact. Yeah and I have not found any evidence of the Rashidun Caliphate of doing anything like what you have mentioned. Burden of proof is on you who made the claim, by the way. Shall we also look at the invasions and massacres of the Persian armies, too, just to test your objectivity?

It is fact that many Iranians converted to Islam and became some of the most renowned scholars in Islam. Did such a vibrant scholastic environment come about because everyone hated Islam? It's clear who here is using deduction and evidence and who is the propagandist.

 

[MLK]

Arabs invaded with the intent of bringing Islamic ideology to Iran. We are talking about an invasion here. Intention is clear.

Anyway, hating on Islam now will not fix Iran's problems but repeating lies is an insult to basic human decency and intelligence.

No, Arabs invaded with intent of gaining power, wealth and influence like any other imperialistic project throughout history.
Claiming the motivation of the Arabs to conquer two superpowers (Byzantine and Persian) for the sake of religion is extremely reductive and non historic.

Arabs during the Rashidun and Ummayid era actually discouraged conversion of non Arabs to Islam. They believed that the social mobility and rights Islamic conversion could offer to the non Arabs would later become a threat to the ruling aristocrats (the peninsular Qureshi Arabs) who were tiny minority in the seat of power over huge swathes of newly conquered lands. A fear which actually later materialized when the Abbasids overthrew the Qureshi elite.

 

[tsunset]

 

[muhammed45]

The umah is the concept of beauty:
"All races and languages and differences are not important. The only thing that is important is to be a good man and Muslim,"

I love this concept more than nationalism, but nationalism is not a bad thing. Nationalism If became racism is bad.

Nationalism is a great concept if it means to love your country and sacrifice for it

The political Nationalism is opposite to globalism. It is a good concept in the hands of good people as you mentioned above. It's a sense of protecting your own family, a family of a nation.

This kind of nationalism is the only way to stand up to American hegemony. It's one of the very reasons why Iranians were able to stop a piece of shit like Saddam and introduce an Iranic-Islamic culture.

But to say that we have to start a campaign to remove Arabic or Azeri words from Persian language is a sign of racism and hatred.

Iran cannot reclaim its lost lands in the future with that mindset. We call our country Iran because it is the land of different unified tribes and religions and languages.

The extremist nationalism which is almost equal to racism is a burden of wrongdoings. That was how Europe was torn into pieces. Even nowadays they are at war, start from ukranian NAZI that harrassed Russian ethnics of Ukraine and caused uprising that eventually led to a shithole today called Ukraine.

We cannot lose our unity over stupid things like fighting against other Iranian languages.

The word Iranic is much much wider and deeper than the word Iranian. My emphasis is on Iranic reunification.

 

[Sarhang]

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What's wrong in that post? Almost everything still stands the same but a mod asked me recently to soften the tone which I did.

It seems you are obsessed about me. Stop sniffing me bro it's creepy.

Furthermore you are not even Iranian...can you even speak Persian?

 

[Persian Gulf]

But to say that we have to start a campaign to remove Arabic or Azeri words from Persian language is a sign of racism and hatred.

it is not racist

Academy of Persian Language and Literature - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of replaced loanwords in Turkish - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mehdipersian]

In recorded history it were the muslims that invaded Persia and enslaved the population. I can name you several documented massacres of Iranians at the hands of Muslims.

I guess i prefer rampant corruption than a huge alien force invading my nation enslaving and raping.

And funny that when i mentioned muslim fanatics you were the first one to reply so defensively

His words are not wrong.

The concept of Iran was re-created during the Safavid period.

The whole goal of the Safavids was to spread Shia Islam.

It is true to say that Iran was re-created because of Shia Islam.

 

[muhammed45]

it is not racist

Academy of Persian Language and Literature - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of replaced loanwords in Turkish - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah thanks for posting what I wanted to post.

It is a great academy that tried to fight the invading colonial words into Persian language. I thought you would hate its HQ. Do you know who is behind that academy?

 

[tsunset]

What's wrong in that post? Almost everything still stands the same but a mod asked me recently to soften the tone which I did.

It seems you are obsessed about me. Stop sniffing me bro it's creepy.

Furthermore you are not even Iranian...can you even speak Persian?

This isn't even me who posted the image first

Nothing stands in the clown post you wrote that's why people bring it back to mock you

Where are the 10-20 "mullah goon" killed by Israel after their high ranking 21yr old officer are getting sent into the stratosphere by snipers and ATGM shots at a daily basis in their own "land"?
1000+ Israeli soldiers and settlers killed + at least 20 staff sergeant and officers sent into hell, where is the response?

Where are the Mossad spies that were supposed to "stab every mullahs" if Iran struck into Israel?

Where is the open Israeli attack on Iran? Iran violated the Israeli airspace in an unprecedented manner with no respect, yet never did for Iran beside relying on their proxies inside Iran for quadcopter attacks from inside and bombing everything but Iran

"Israeli intelligence top notch", aged like fine milk

This is a typical mental illness post with the exact same typo and quotes "but you are not iranian", you talk like one of those mentally ill monarchists and pseudo nationalist neo-zoroastrian snowflakes living in the west and rewriting Iran history on the internet

 

[Mehdipersian]

Yeah thanks for posting what I wanted to post.

It is a great academy that tried to fight the invading colonial words into Persian language. I thought you would hate its HQ. Do you know who is behind that academy?

it is not racist

Academy of Persian Language and Literature - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of replaced loanwords in Turkish - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Protecting the language from the invasion of foreign words is not a racist thing. But in this case, there were countries in history that sought to change old words in their language because of racism and separation from others. This is racism.

 

[jauk]

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[muhammed45]

Btw, comparing Iran to Turkey is basically wrong.

Iranians in general do not have identity crisis like that of Turkey.

Turks sometimes have to invent history. Most of their propaganda programs and TV series show their serious crisis. Their history is bound to Iran but they desperately try to prove otherwise. When they try that, they fall into Greek category. After resisting that one too, they end up in the middle of no where.

Turkey is a country that its basis is built upon fake racism by Ata Turk. No need to explain who this villain was. I guess people know him well for inventing a fake history for a land that was the main competing place between Iranian and western kingdoms.

Resisting the Persian words for themselves looks impossible too. Since people of this region are bound to each.

For example the iTV of Azerbaijan has employed highly educated executors whose sole mission is removing Iranian words, yet they fail and their guests always repeat those words. Words like خانم they cannot get rid of.

The future of this region is with Iran and the leadership of Iranic languages belongs to Persian language as the heart of Iranic mainland.

 

[Sarhang]

Btw, comparing Iran to Turkey is basically wrong.

Iranians in general do not have identity crisis like that of Turkey.

Turks sometimes have to invent history. Most of their propaganda programs and TV series show their serious crisis. Their history is bound to Iran but they desperately try to prove otherwise. When they try that, they fall into Greek category. After resisting that one too, they end up in the middle of no where.

Turkey is a country that its basis is built upon fake racism by Ata Turk. No need to explain who this villain was. I guess people know him well for inventing a fake history for a land that was the main competing place between Iranian and western kingdoms.

Resisting the Persian words for themselves looks impossible too. Since people of this region are bound to each.

For example the iTV of Azerbaijan has employed highly educated executors whose sole mission is removing Iranian words, yet they fail and their guests always repeat those words. Words like خانم they cannot get rid of.

The future of this region is with Iran and the leadership of Iranic languages belongs to Persian language as the heart of Iranic mainland.

What others are trying to tell you is that you can't convince others of cultural "supremacy" and bond with religion. In the case of Turkey, Iran rules over them culturally only.