Unrest in AJK Update and Discussion

[hussain0216]

Hijacking people without due processes what the jungle law is not mobs burning a few tires

Over 10,000 people were killed without due process are disappeared.. that's not an issue, but a single building was burnt and that's a big issue

Absolutely it's a big issue, and you can't allow the state to bend to blackmail

Once it does it will be blackmailed multiple times by multiple donkeys

The leaders of the rioters need to be handed sever sever sentences

Anyone involved in deaths of police need to be given death sentences

Anyone found rioting or trying to blackmail the state must be found


We cannot allow war upon the country from any mindless lanat and animals who thinks they can block roads, cause chaos and kill and get their way



Whether the enemy is Afghan, or these yahoos we got to act and act hard

 

[Awwad]

Things will be okay in a year or two, with economic indicators stabilizing. The next step forawrd is to work together that includes all parties and establishment. I guess the only one not willing to work is PTI, the fckin krypotnite.

OMG! that's hilarious. Stop lying on everybody's face. You are not a kid or are you? Whole nation has witnessed how everything is destroyed after regime change, how everything is going worse every passing day. This all happened to a country where overseas were coming, where people I know personally were thinking to invest, where growth rate was amazing, where textile industry flourished again, where IT exports were records, where overall exports were improving and you did regime change. Foreign power supported your regime change because they only look for their own interest. They give a damn to Pakistan's interests. Note, PTI was given power in 2018 when it had only 7 days of reserves. PMLN the most corrupt / incompetent lot were saying themselves that PTI has to go to IMF soon. What kind of excuse can anyone have to defend PMLN's incompetence that they left an empty treasury after ruling for full tenure (2013 to 18).

As far as your dumb comment on "all parties & establishment" is concerned lol. Those parties (Mafias) have ZERO right to rule over Pakistan as people of Pakistan rejected them. Even PMLN own members have acknowledged that they lost every constituency from PTI's C-team. Establishment is a servant of state / govt. They have no right to interfere too. Its very simple solution to Pakistan's problems, let people decide and people already have decided and spoken that they want Imran khan to lead the nation. This is the only solution. Sooner Pakistan realize the better. Sanity must prevail, otherwise you will only burn the country down

 

[SteppeWolff]

Bhai ji abhee to "Darjja E Harrarrtt " mazeed aur bharee jaygee

@Waz bro why these Indian scum are allowed to post in Pakistan sensitive matters? They just come here to troll and to take "chaskay"

 

[PakAl]

Either they entitled to lower cost of electricity or royalties

This is how the whole world works

For example in United States each citizen of Alaska gets fix amount of money given oil royalties

In Pakistan for example Punjab bans the transport of wheat and therefore the cost of wheat is much higher than other provinces

AJK, GB should be self sufficient in wheat, they have plenty of land for 5m population, Punjab should be exporting wheat but our government Imports it. I can understand Balochistan having wheat issues due to their region.

 

[Mrc]

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Alot of fakery going on by accounts associated with you know whom

 

[PakAl]

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In AJK we have nationalist who always find an excuse to chant anti Pakistan, anti pak army slogans, they are not extremists but just abit loose in the head. If Pakistan army is removed from the borders, India will overtake, then they will be crying even more. Another issue is Pak army/Isi has been committing cruelties against them, playing double games, trapping them, collaboration with India to kill the nationalists, they know all this and this had added fuel to the fire.

 

[Mrc]

In AJK we have nationalist who always find an excuse to chant anti Pakistan, anti pak army slogans, they are not extremists but just abit loose in the head. If Pakistan army is removed from the borders, India will overtake, then they will be crying even more. Another issue is Pak army/Isi has been committing cruelties against them, playing double games, trapping them, collaboration with India to kill the nationalists, they know all this and this had added fuel to the fire.

Yeah but above video and some others are fake
Some are also quiet old ones

 

[Waterboy]

his all happened to a country where overseas were coming, where people I know personally were thinking to invest, where growth rate was amazing, where textile industry flourished again, where IT exports were records, where overall exports were improving and you did regime change.

You're delusional to think everything was great. It was boom and bust cycle.

It's mental,, and idiots think any country can afford to allow mobs to kill policemen in order to blackmail the state into giving subsidies on a local basis to a particular community


This is INTOLERABLE,, and if you don't come down like a hammer on rioters and murderers then you have jungle law


The states hand has been forced and it MUST RESPOND others another band of monkeys will hit the road, kill police and demand subsidies for gas in sindh or something

This is exactly what happened on may 9th as well. People rioted and damaged public property, and when they were caught with their pants down, they started propogating human rights and must be forgiven because they are affiliated with a certain party. This thug and mob behaviour needs to end. Political elites all use common men as canon fodder and get bails themselves. Brain dead Kids are the ones rotting in jails, just pawns of the elites.
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[Waterboy]

Either they entitled to lower cost of electricity or royalties

This is how the whole world works

For example in United States each citizen of Alaska gets fix amount of money given oil royalties

In Pakistan for example Punjab bans the transport of wheat and therefore the cost of wheat is much higher than other provinces

Sorry, Pakistan isn't the US, nor do we have the resources to subsidize one ethnicity over the others. Everyone is equal here, and we need to develop first. Everyone has to contribute to the pie first to get royalties. The state built the dam, not Kashmiris. They got displaced but got way more out of it than they could have imagined.

 

[Awwad]

You don't need to do that

You just need to do some simple logical steps that no one will dare to do

1- dissolve all army business
2- ban army from agriculture and dairy farming (hell at ghazi air base that was taken over from WAPDA you can see all the base commanders have dairy farms for themselves on govt money, don't believe it come and see)
3- ban all BMWs
4- ban all private clubs and golf clubs
5- ban batman culture or wives of army generals
6- ban govt posts for retired army personel (they can go into private sector if they are qualified).
7- ban two retirements(sometimes three).
8- reduce army size to logical size ..small and lethal force is needed

No govt can dare to touch / upset the goons of the country.
So, the first step is very very important. If ever a truly public mandate govt comes to power and is allowed to form govt, then the first step it should do is take security of PM & cabinet by itself through civil forces or even a private force and get the 111 brigade out of the PM house and all other buildings. Everywhere in the world, PM / president security is the job of civilian run forces. Once they are out, you know they cannot do a coup like a walk in the park. Once this step is done, then you can do other steps.

For me the most important step that can transform the military from real-estate empire to professional force is to vacate the cantonments which are in cities. Cantonments were residences of British Raj & birtish military. They purposely built them within cities or near cities to control the locals. There was no LOC back then. Army never organized itself to a professional force, they carried forward the occupational mindset from british. Once the LOC was formed in 1947, then new military bases should have been formed near border, OR between cities and the borders. That will actually help in defense of the country. Military will know that they have no civilians shield and they will be the first to be attacked if India attacks, so their whole attention would be at defense. Now since they are living in cities like kings, their whole attention is in business of cities, its in politics, its in real-estate and other stuff.

So I have only 2 points to make Pakistan army a professional force.
1- Replace 111-brigade with civilian run force.
2- Make military bases near borders and shift most of military from cities (cantonments) towards these new military bases.

 

[Waterboy]

Over 10,000 people were killed without due process are disappeared.

If you have anti state agenda, you should be disappeared.

 

[Taimoor]

Embarrassing.....
But I and other patriots urge not to involve the armed forces.
The disgusting thugs came from the Punjab police and federal authorities.

Why not? Every evil in Pakistan originates from these few rats occupying GHQ.

The biggest questions is, why these traitors lead by Asim Muneer are not dealt with iron hand within. Everything happening in Pakistan is BY DESIGN with these traitors following the agenda of their forigen masters. I would say, that things have reached that level that these rats in GHQ dont even deserve a trail, just quick end, one in the chest and head, a "police muqabala". Just be done with ffs and end this non sense in Pakistan.

This umbilical cord aka Pakistan army generals through which Pakistan is controlled from oceans away must be cut once and for all. These 22nd graders, every single one of them is easily replaceable.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

You know what's funny

If IK was in power all you all would have been rightfully calling them out for being stupid and delusional AH

But now everyone's jumping the anti gov bandwagon even if they're right in this specific instance

 

[Awwad]

If you have anti state agenda, you should be disappeared.

Army & COAS are servants of the state. There would be no difference between them and goons if they decide on their own that a citizen of the country has to be disappeared. Their job is to bring him to justice and give a fair trail. Who knows you'd have killed thousand innocents if you become judge, jury and executioner yourself. That's not how states function. That's why everything in Pakistan is upside down.

Lastly, real owners of the state are people of the country. The whole purpose of state is to give them protection & rights, otherwise there's no purpose of the state.

 

[Waterboy]

You know what's funny

If IK was in power all you all would have been rightfully calling them out for being stupid and delusional AH

But now everyone's jumping the anti gov bandwagon even if they're right in this specific instance

Exactly people are anti gov because their favourite party isn't in power. Its just optics.