Unrest in AJK Update and Discussion

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Your mental disease keeps taking you in circles. You need professional help.
Oky one question for you. Who should rule the country and who should decide for 250- millions. Don’t you think 250 millions reserve this right for themself don’t you think it is unfair if some random retired general decides for them.don't you think it is open abuse to wisdom of 250 millions Waiting for your honest answer.
 
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Another few points.

Just like giving 'X' as a form of a weapon in hands of anyone who can now post whatever they want. The strategy of PTI has failed on all accounts even with use of this platform as a weapon in hand of everyone. Bajwa completed his tenure, nothing happened. SS became temporary PM. Munir came into power. SS became PM and PMLN came into Govt. In the meanwhile IK resisted and then was kicked into jail.

So is the use of disinformation through social media effective, especially using 'X' for political means ? It has not given any meaningful result to PTI.

This means IK's strategy has badly failed. He doesn't have enough brains to resort to a new strategy except than crying like Bajwa's ex-gf from prison. Coming back to use of social media by public especially 'X'. If something happens in actuality, there will obviously be 10 different narratives as the toy is in the hand of the monkey and he will use it however he wants. It doesn't help in real life to make any meaningful difference, does it ? feeding news over news. Forming opinions of all sorts. But what is the practicality of all this ? lets take for example, the use of social media didn't help IK from being kicked into jail, neither it is helping him make his exit from jail.

So the first point is, how is use of disinformation helping any political member achieve his goals ?

Secondly, its the public who reacts to this disinformation and helps spread it virally. But can public really do anything in real life to actually make a difference ? Like something for Pakistan's prosperity ? or react to a terrorist attack on them or around them ? or react to natural calamity ? The news of such happenings will obviously reach the government and they will take action, but it has become the only job of public to spread news.
Another example, does the public know how to stop a platoon level attack by Indian Army ? no, public is not trained for this. But in any such instance in a related news, they will give their comments, react to it and try to become analysts. So in real life, public doesn't have access to a lot meetings or the decision making criteria, but when any news hits the media, it seems somehow everyone knows what is going on. Its absurd beyond limit. Debunk it all and some other story comes out and in most cases we wont know what is actuality since none of us was there behind closed doors. Same for journalists, they get one piece of news, they start connecting dots and make a new conclusion out of it. Things move so rapidly that there is no time to concentrate on old false news since 10 other new incidents have been posted on 'X'.

Thirdly, due to the nature of propaganda war, the intel agencies have intensified their cyber surveillance through data analytics, cyber security, sim geolocating etc. The threats of political maneuvers has made them increase their vigil and enhance capabilities of intel departments looking into internal matters of Pakistan including political. So if some ABC wing of intel agency had 50 staff, now it has 500 with related equipment.
The point is Government and intel agencies adapt to the circumstances, they have analysts who foresee many risks and threats in advance and present measures. This re-iterates what i mentioned before - the failure of PTI's strategy which seemed effective at start but is now down the drain.
Don't you think the huge lack of support to the actions the fauj takes, and the decrease in nationalism is a significant (negative) thing?

Also about your think of "analysts foreseeing risks" - Imran Khan has been consistently on record showing his sympathies to violent groups, Afghans, and his pacifist nature. It should have been known he would obstruct any action of self defence against Afghan support to TTP.
 
ooh scary. Meanwhile ISPR was begging for an apology just a few days ago :rofl:
ISPR responded to a journalists question that only through an apology will he have a chance. Apart from that he will rot in jail for the rest of his life and everyone else will cry about it.
 
Kashmir, KPK, GB, Baluchistan all are slipping from hands.
Well not really from separatist perspective.
If the majority of non Separtist Pakistanis can't do anything against army then no way the above mentioned parts of pakistan can do anything. Plus doesn't matter how people are hating army these days they won't get support from the majority of pakistan if they ever talk about independence from pakistan.
 
Oky one question for you. Who should rule the country and who should decide for 250- millions. Don’t you think 250 millions reserve this right for themself don’t you think it is unfair if some random retired general decides for them.don't you think it is open abuse to wisdom of 250 millions Waiting for your honest answer.
No

Pakistanis don't deserve democracy. It's a mostly illiterate population that is not even loyal to their own country. Go through Pakistan, you will find liberal jeets that dance at Holi who obsess over India, you will find ethno-nats mullahs that idolise Afghanistan first, and you'll find certain sects that idolise Iran.

Then you'll find some Punjabis who the only reason they support Imran Khan is because handsome kaptaan brave pathan 🤣

Majority of your opinions are not worth much it's an unfortunate truth.
 
"you will be waiting forever for pakistan to destabilize"

- waz

in yesterday's thread before it got deleted

i wish i had taken a screenshot
 
It works out in a way since IK's steps have been anti-state, in terms of creating anarchy in Pakistan so he could come into power. The more PTI goons go anti-state, anti-military- they are going anti-Pakistan in reality, where as being brain-fed that this is the way to Pakistan's freedom of some sort from the powers who control the state of Pakistan. The fact is they are resorting all sorts of disinformation which though spreads like virus on social media but gets debunked sooner or later. This social media use for political means is only creating political minds in the society who will have diverse views at some stage apart from forcing the public to stand up against the Pakistan Army.

Pakistan itself is anti-state. Generals are only there to offer military services as a client state.
 
Don't you think the huge lack of support to the actions the fauj takes, and the decrease in nationalism is a significant (negative) thing?

Also about your think of "analysts foreseeing risks" - Imran Khan has been consistently on record showing his sympathies to violent groups, Afghans, and his pacifist nature. It should have been known he would obstruct any action of self defence against Afghan support to TTP.
Yar, has lack of support affected military actions, plans, acquisitions, funds, power play anything ?

IK's Afghanistan and Taliban plan was controversial, but that isn't a factor anymore. he is not in power now.
 

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