Clashes with Afghan Taliban break out again: Taliban removing fence and covering for TTP infiltration

[Baadil]

No above posts show a bharti IQ level or the effect of watching too much anti pakistan rhetoric on your TV channels or by your defence analysts spewing venom against us. You cant think deep because of the limitations of your brain. Surface level horsecrap is all you talk.
To be someone enemy cultural,religious and historical ties doesn't matter. It can be land ,jealousy women or million other things of this world. The same reason why Christian and Muslims nations still fight or why Europeans were at each others throat throughout history.

What defines a Pakistani to you?
Secular Pakistani nationalist = oxymoron

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

A lot of people are misreading the situation. Relations b/w TTP & AT are not as it seems on the surface. You can't convince the AT to not help TTP b/c otherwise TTP will join ISKP. You're going to need to 1) offer something substantially more to AT so they won't have to worry about TTP joining ISKP & 2) convince them that you won't make a uturn as soon as it's convenient & leave them all on their own.

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The Afghan Taliban can't separate from TTP because it isn't just a basic proxy force, it's literally their own blood and they have the same ideology. It's like asking someone to kill their own brother.

All Afghan Taliban agree & support the TTP - but the internal divide is most want to openly house them in Afghanistan - while others say that it's going to harm the legitimacy of the Taliban government internationally.

There's zero dispute on whether TTP is good or bad - they all like & support it. They just want it to capture land in Pakistan so Afghanistan's name is not involved.

There would be an internal uprising if any Taliban official high up said anything about completely dismantling TTP - not because of them joining ISKP but because it's the same to them.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

What defines a Pakistani to you?
Secular Pakistani nationalist = oxymoron

Dude, we get it you are a Taliban d-ck rider, this entire thread has been you making absolutely zero meaningful contributions apart from spamming laughing emojis whenever anyone suggests any act of self-defence against the Taliban because it hurts you. Would not even be surprised if you are a refugee from that place.

You want to ride the Taliban, say it openly instead of smurking around like a shy woman

 

[SecularNationalist]

What defines a Pakistani to you?
Secular Pakistani nationalist = oxymoron

Or you are that baadil that protects IAF from radar detection according to modi.

 

[arjunk]

Afghans are not the same ethnicity, and a lot of them say that they're not the same religion due to minor theological differences.

They are more similar to Pakistan than India. Hence, they get more leniency.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

From an Afghan Pashto news channel:

It claims in Pashto that the imaginary border (Durrand line) has been torn down in several places and that fighting is going on

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[Mrc]

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[Baadil]

Dude, we get it you are a Taliban d-ck rider, this entire thread has been you making absolutely zero meaningful contributions apart from spamming laughing emojis whenever anyone suggests any act of self-defence against the Taliban because it hurts you. Would not even be surprised if you are a refugee from that place.

You want to ride the Taliban, say it openly instead of smurking around like a shy woman

You’re also free to attempt to answer the question

Or you are that baadil that protects IAF from radar detection according to modi.

rather you shroud your contradictory opinions in deflection.

If you and your ideological compatriots are serious, the narrative building considerations are the following:

1) Afghan Taliban claim legitimacy due to Islamic ideology. TTP claim to seek to establish Sharia rule in Pakistan

2) Pakistan was founded as a separate homeland for Muslims. So choices are rule according to Islam or not

If it is to be Secular, then why Partition? What is point of Secular nation formed due to religious differences?

If it is to be Islamic rule, then that can be a point of countering present Afghan regime and their affiliates’ narrative by going to source material of Islamic law including protection of minorities and women’s’ rights.

But is there seriousness in addressing Afghan concerns regarding colonial era borders?

Perhaps argument can be made for an “Indus [Republic] of Pakistan” as a revision of national identity, but then back to question of why Partition in the beginning on religious grounds? To what extent are certain groups indigenous to the Indus Republic?

Have you thought this through?

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

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[Mrc]

You’re also free to attempt to answer the question

rather you shroud your contradictory opinions in deflection.

If you and your ideological compatriots are serious, the narrative building considerations are the following:

1) Afghan Taliban claim legitimacy due to Islamic ideology. TTP claim to seek to establish Sharia rule in Pakistan

2) Pakistan was founded as a separate homeland for Muslims. So choices are rule according to Islam or not

If it is to be Secular, then why Partition? What is point of Secular nation formed due to religious differences?

If it is to be Islamic rule, then that can be a point of countering present Afghan regime and their affiliates’ narrative by going to source material of Islamic law including protection of minorities and women’s’ rights.

But is there seriousness in addressing Afghan concerns regarding colonial era borders?

Perhaps argument can be made for an “Indus [Republic] of Pakistan” as a revision of national identity, but then back to question of why Partition in the beginning on religious grounds? To what extent are certain groups indigenous to the Indus Republic?

Have you thought this through?

Vast vast majority of Muslims don't agree with afghan taliban ideology
We don't like blowing up girls schools and condemning them to homes of elderly commanders
We don't like suicide killing of civilians blowing up mosques blowing up hospitals for your own lust for power
We don't like massacring shia Muslims on behst of your Jewish overlords
This is just a start
Hence term khwarij fits very well with them

 

[Signalian]

Why don't we just bomb the shiit out of their posts in that region.
Caz few hundred casuality and they will learn

Military Ops are not magical wand waving scenarios. Wait for it. Things do happen. some will get reported, others will not.

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

Afghans are the same ethnicity and religion, Indians aren't and do not get any leniency.

No one cares, this thread is about Afghanistan. India is irrelevant.

So now Punjabi, Sindhi …, Pakistani are Afghans? Anyways glad you did not say same culture as Afghan which keeps woman at home and destroy Buddha of Bamiyan.

I did not brought India in discussion but relied your India comment so, move on if you don’t care for comment no need to respond.

 

[Mrc]

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[Hopefully Pessimistic]

You’re also free to attempt to answer the question

rather you shroud your contradictory opinions in deflection.

If you and your ideological compatriots are serious, the narrative building considerations are the following:

1) Afghan Taliban claim legitimacy due to Islamic ideology. TTP claim to seek to establish Sharia rule in Pakistan

2) Pakistan was founded as a separate homeland for Muslims. So choices are rule according to Islam or not

If it is to be Secular, then why Partition? What is point of Secular nation formed due to religious differences?

If it is to be Islamic rule, then that can be a point of countering present Afghan regime and their affiliates’ narrative by going to source material of Islamic law including protection of minorities and women’s’ rights.

But is there seriousness in addressing Afghan concerns regarding colonial era borders?

Perhaps argument can be made for an “Indus [Republic] of Pakistan” as a revision of national identity, but then back to question of why Partition in the beginning on religious grounds? To what extent are certain groups indigenous to the Indus Republic?

Have you thought this through?

We do not give a shit about Afghan concerns or about their opinions on our internal matters or sovereignty. It's quite frankly not their business nor are we obligated to.

Sorry to burst your bubble Talib fanboy but we'll just ruthlessly carpet bomb them if push comes to shove - right at the border within a 1km radius. You can hold 2000 pound JDAMS all you like.

Cry about it

 

[hussain0216]

What defines a Pakistani to you?
Secular Pakistani nationalist = oxymoron

Buddy don't get over excited

A Pakistani is a legal citizen of the country, that's it

You people get confused about titles when the modern nation state is a simple concept

Now being a citizen brings some rights but it also brings responsibilities and duties

The state is the owner of all land, it's responsible to maintain and defend our borders
We cannot allow or tolerate sedition or seditious behaviour by ethnocentric lanats

Either obey the law and get on with your life or **** off