Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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GoMig-21 said:
God bless all those students, and this goes back to my point to Raptor; this is part of what makes this a great country that these people have the unalienable right to protest their government for redress of grievances and in this case, they're protesting Columbia University's support of the zionist state in the midst of carrying out a genocide which falls under that basic constitutional right.

Naturally the university being a private institution has every right to trespass these individuals which it did and was the only way they could allow the cops to come in and clean house.

Problem is that all the ones who got arrested will be facing trespass charges since once you're told you have to leave a property and you either don't or come back to it, you're effectively trespassing so it's a misdemeanor and will go on their record. Not the end of the world but will have minor implications no question which makes these kids even braver IMO. They're only hope would be to have their cases dismissed entirely.

As long as they're not charged with any felonies which is a whole other ballgame and who knows with those NYPD jackboot thug pigs how many false charges they trumped up on individuals they didn't like or had a personal beef with or being zionists didn't appreciate the protests etc. Unfortunately that'll be an even bigger court battle to fight felony charges and much worse to have on your record, especially when you're barely starting out with your life & career. But hopefully the judges in NY -- being the liberal state that it is -- will compassion-throw-out any and all charges on these students so that there a aren't any chances of trumped-up charges ruining the rest of these kids' lives.
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The NYPD mostly just detains/arrests. With this many potential defendants, it’s the prosecutors that can drum up whatever charges. Hopefully the students can get good lawyers to have their cases completely dismissed.

It is one more reason to live in liberal New York, compared to supposedly free speech Texas. Here in New York, you have a chance, in Texas the climate seems down right authoritarian.

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I know which guy they're talking about. He's a Salafi guy usually attacking Hamas saying they're not following religion wrong. And never suggests anything about Israel or has a plan for Israel. He's a instigator likely bankrolled from salafist organizations outside. Palestinains in the midst of a genocide won't celebrate anyone's death that's a Muslim. Only the Zionist invaders.

This guy is a look alike but not the exact guy. You can see the exact guy in older videos. Palestinain organizations gave condolences and so did people. Besides Raisi hardly had anything to do with Syria and came in power way later than the conflict there.

Salafis keep saying certain Sunnis aren't following Islam right. They say that about everyone. It makes no sense. Then they end up with something like Saudi Arabia which isn't actually all religious anymore. So what do they want from people. People nowadays don't even know five pillars of Islam. You got to start with basics. These Salafis overthink things. And are not fit to rule, period.
 
Get Ya Wig Split said:
@Musings it's messed up how they're treating and dissing @F-22Raptor. @F-22Raptor I got you big homie. Musing, check the last 5 pages, members be throwing all sorts of disrespect at @F-22Raptor. That ain't cool. Third world behavior.

I'm totally with @F-22Raptor on this one. ICC call is just wrong one of the nastiest things I've seen in a while.
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Yes and you are another of his kind. Another hypocrite troll who runs away from answering basic questions and always disguise under the umbrella of lies and deceptions.
 
F-22Raptor said:
This thread is an echo chamber of anti semitism and terror. They’d call for the destruction of Israel regardless of what’s happening in Gaza.

They use their victimhood as a shield for their evil thoughts and designs. An that’s the annihilation of Israel. They aren’t fooling anyone.

That’s why the destruction of Hamas is 100% justified.
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Again uses the umbrella of victimisation... Just like typical hypocrite Zios do.
Not a single mention of how israhell did Palestinian genocide right since 1948 and how brutally treated them in their our land and yet only mentioning October 23 with crocodile tears in troll manner of repeating it again and again.
I wish you have some self respect.
 
Persian Gulf said:
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Biden will get crushed in the election. So might as well prepare for Trump's America in next four years. Trump will also mess up America's economy with his isolationism and self obsession. And he will rile up his base again that will return to ego boosting racism/bigotry and further multiply the brain drain in the country. US is on a decline. The politicians are mentally insane. Population are poor and frustrated. Living paycheck to paycheck. Broken families. People getting married less. There isn't a clear vision for the future. Democracy is clearly not the vision. It's more like a Jewish supremacy holding together the 'democracy' which is democracy and international law except for the Jews and anyone that supports Israel.

Meanwhile China and other states have a clear future and have good leadership prospects to come. US has no good candidates anymore. Trump is gonna drive the US into the ground if his focus is just immigration and deporting people. And ending ties with NATO. And tariff wars. If he takes office it will not be like his first term where economy was good, gas prices were low, and things were somewhat going. He's gonna inherit a bad economy with high inflation and a enormous debt crisis for the nation but also the average American. Housing crash will likely occur during his term too.
 
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Falcon29 said:
I know which guy they're talking about. He's a Salafi guy usually attacking Hamas saying they're not following religion wrong. And never suggests anything about Israel or has a plan for Israel. He's a instigator likely bankrolled from salafist organizations outside. Palestinains in the midst of a genocide won't celebrate anyone's death that's a Muslim. Only the Zionist invaders.

This guy is a look alike but not the exact guy. You can see the exact guy in older videos. Palestinain organizations gave condolences and so did people. Besides Raisi hardly had anything to do with Syria and came in power way later than the conflict there.

Salafis keep saying certain Sunnis aren't following Islam right. They say that about everyone. It makes no sense. Then they end up with something like Saudi Arabia which isn't actually all religious anymore. So what do they want from people. People nowadays don't even know five pillars of Islam. You got to start with basics. These Salafis overthink things. And are not fit to rule, period.
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they are still some Palestinians who hate and oppose Iran (mostly pro-Fatah Palestinians) just like they are Iranians (mostly mentally ill Iranians in the diaspora) who for some reason hate Palestine/Muslims

but nobody is a monolith, in international relations you can't take every minority opinion personally, you have to be calm and not let minority voices react in a stupid way
 
Falcon29 said:
Biden will get crushed in the election. So might as well prepare for Trump's America in next four years. Trump will also mess up America's economy with his isolationism and self obsession. And he will rile up his base again that will return to ego boosting racism/bigotry and further multiply the brain drain in the country. US is on a decline. The politicians are mentally insane. Population are poor and frustrated. Living paycheck to paycheck. Broken families. People getting married less. There isn't a clear vision for the future. Democracy is clearly not the vision. It's more like a Jewish supremacy holding together the 'democracy' which is democracy and international law except for the Jews and anyone that supports Israel.

Meanwhile China and other states have a clear future and have good leadership prospects to come. US has no good candidates anymore. Trump is gonna drive the US into the ground if his focus is just immigration and deporting people. And ending ties with NATO. And tariff wars. If he takes office it will be like his first term where economy was good, gas prices were low, and things were somewhat going. He's gonna inherit a bad economy with high inflation and a enormous debt crisis for the nation but also the average American. Housing crash will likely occur during his term too.
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if I am a zionist things like this will worry me much more than Iranian nuclear weapons or Hamas:

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total societal decay with Ben Gvir's army of extremist settlers aka terrorist militia! the divisions before the war were already huge and increasing, now the foundations are being set for far worse and more explosive divisions in the future. it's a matter of time at this point.
 
UKBengali said:
I think the two here we are "debating" with are either Jews, Christian Zionists or just plain old white racists.
I cannot see how either can have such extreme views if they were any other kind of Americans.
Most Americans have now turned against the settler entity.
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White Americans bloggers who are more Israelis than some Israelis, if they are not Jews, are generally Christian Zionists (the active Rapture Seekers!) or plain old WASPs--and I mean 'old' like 50+ old or those who fear the Muslims due to 9/11 and the images of Taliban and ISIS.

Of these, I am literally surrounded by Christian Zionists; there is no debating them as that would ruin the family relations. When they bring up 'G-D gave that land to Israel' or 'Anyone who turns against Israel will be destroyed by G-D' then you know you are talking with lunatics.
 
Persian Gulf said:
if I am a zionist things like this will worry me much more than Iranian nuclear weapons or Hamas:

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total societal decay with Ben Gvir's army of extremist settlers aka terrorist militia! the divisions before the war were already huge and increasing, now the foundations are being set for far worse and more explosive divisions in the future. it's a matter of time at this point.
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They're definitely going doing radical extremist path. Which right now they seem to enjoy since they're killing all they want. But that's what ISIS and Hitler was doing in the beginning. A few years later they ceased to exist. Zionists will face same fate and it will be harder because Jewish radicals in the West that try to weaponize the West for Israel. But ultimately they will self destruct and their terrorism will be destroyed.
 
Falcon29 said:
They're definitely going doing radical extremist path. Which right now they seem to enjoy since they're killing all they want. But that's what ISIS and Hitler was doing in the beginning. A few years later they ceased to exist. Zionists will face same fate and it will be harder because Jewish radicals in the West that try to weaponize the West for Israel. But ultimately they will self destruct and their terrorism will be destroyed.
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the only thing that unites the Zionist entity these days is their bloodlust, but their descent to the far right led by a convicted terrorist who gives out weapons to all of his followers to take law into their own hands, while almost half of the population still describe themselves as more liberal/democratic, is a disaster waiting to happen

intelligence agencies in the region need to work together to find ways to facilitate and foster the growing radicalisation of that divide within Israel
 
Persian Gulf said:
the only thing that unites the Zionist entity these days is their bloodlust, but their descent to the far right led by a convicted terrorist who gives out weapons to all of his followers to take law into their own hands, while almost half of the population still describe themselves as more liberal/democratic, is a disaster waiting to happen
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Bloodlust is only a symptom; it is the sense of survival which is the predominant concern. There is no question about it that Israel is fighting a conflict which, if it doesn't conclusively wins, is doomed as a nation. Israeli's geography and demographics had condemned Israel to such a situation. So, while I have no sympathy for the expansionist, racist Zionists but I still think they are fighting for their survival and are probably drawing upon similar struggles in human history to keep telling themselves stuff like 'This too shall pass. Don't worry about the world opinion. Remember: The victors write the history. The world will forget and move on. People have their daily lives to live'.

Persian Gulf said:
intelligence agencies in the region need to work together to find ways to facilitate and foster the growing radicalisation of that divide within Israel
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What regional countries? I think Jordan shot down the Iranian missiles going toward Israel.

Nah, only by keeping the Gazans supplied with the lethal weaponry from Egypt is the way to either make Israel see reason or remove them from that region as a State. So, short of Israelis seeing the reason, conflict and more conflict. Prolonged wars of attrition.
 
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