Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[UKBengali]

World cares and it will have consequences eventually. Images from Gaza will not be forgotten and who was main sponsor of those.

Yes as what people do not understand is that the entity is losing its legitimaticy to exist in its current form at least.

We will start to see boycotts and creeping sanctions that will eventually collapse the entity due to economic pressure with the loss of investments and 2nd passport holders.

 

[The SC]

Urgent | Palestinian Red Crescent:

We call on the international community to pressure Israel to bring medical equipment into the Gaza Strip

The Israeli occupation deliberately forces the displaced to move from one area to another

The central areas of the Gaza Strip are threatened by a real famine, as happened in the north and south of it

@ShehabAgency

 

[mulj]

Yes as what people do not understand is that the entity is losing its legitimaticy to exist in its current form at least.

We will start to see boycotts and creeping sanctions that will eventually collapse the entity due to economic pressure with the loss of investments and 2nd passport holders.

It will not be that easy, that would mean direct clash with USA but for start leaning out of USA influence and grip will become desirable goal if opportunity presents itself.

 

[The SC]

Survey of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem Universities:

62% of Israelis in general prefer stopping the war and recovering the prisoners rather than continuing it and killing the prisoners

65% of right-wing voters prefer to continue the war even if it leads to the death of prisoners

74% of opposition voters prefer stopping the war rather than continuing it in exchange for the return of prisoners

 

[UKBengali]

It will not be that easy, that would mean direct clash with USA but for start leaning out of USA influence and grip will become desirable goal if opportunity presents itself.

US will lose its sole superpower status as China becomes a peer in the 2030s.

When you are the sole superpower you can get away with anything and impose your will but not when you have a true peer like China in the economic, military and technological domains.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

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Why Iranians are not capturing cargo ships coming from UAE?

That land corridor for Zionists, which was aimed to circumvent Yemeni blockade, needs to be destroyed...

 

[j_hungary]

World cares and it will have consequences eventually. Images from Gaza will not be forgotten and who was main sponsor of those.

Well, I don't know, because if I remember correctly, you laugh quite hard at my post before all these when I said the war is going to be real and they are going in hard.

So I don't know what to believe.

 

[mulj]

Well, I don't know, because if I remember correctly, you laugh quite hard at my post before all these when I said the war is going to be real and they are going in hard.

So I don't know what to believe.

This is not war, that is genocidal project, war is already won by Hamas in pure military terms and that is hard for racist minds in usa and occupied entity to accept so they resorted to full blown genocide.

 

[Meengla]

. Now, there are only 3 ways Hamas can go, stay and fight until they can't fight anymore. Melt into the population and wait it out. Or try to exert the most pressure and tilted the international community toward them.

Over all a good post.
To the quoted part: The population itself is Hamas now! Those thousands of orphans, the widows, the survived ones are never going to forgive Israel. Yes, Israelis can try to torture random 'civilians' to find out who is Hamas or PIJ among them but the more Israelis interact with the occupied people the more Israelis will be easy to target.

And your post totally ignored the powerful militias surrounding Israel ready to pounce if they sense Hamas falling. There is a reason Israel hasn't attacked Iranians in Syria lately and there is a reason Americans bases have not been targeted lately. There exists a behind the scene truce until the need for the next stage.

 

[j_hungary]

This is not war, that is genocidal project, war is already won by Hamas in pure military terms and that is hard for racist minds in usa and occupied entity to accept so they resorted to full blown genocide.

I don't get it. Are you saying Hamas won the war by letting the Israel to commit genocide on themselves???

Now I am confused......

 

[j_hungary]

Over all a good post.
To the quoted part: The population itself is Hamas now! Those thousands of orphans, the widows, the survived ones are never going to forgive Israel. Yes, Israelis can try to torture random 'civilians' to find out who is Hamas or PIJ among them but the more Israelis interact with the occupied people the more Israelis will be easy to target.

And your post totally ignored the powerful militias surrounding Israel ready to pounce if they sense Hamas falling. There is a reason Israel hasn't attacked Iranians in Syria lately and there is a reason Americans bases have not been targeted lately. There exists a behind the scene truce until the need for the next stage.

My post didn't ignore the militia surrounding Israel, it was mentioned on my original post.

The problem with it is that they all revolve Iran. But Iran probably would need Russia backing to have them attack Israel be it high or low intensity conflict. The issue here is, Israel is currently staying neutral in Ukraine, and if Russia F with Israel by letting Iran attack Israel themselves or using their proxies, that may change, unless you think those H - Group can eliminate Israel once and for all, if Israel remain, it have the capability to make Russia progress in Ukraine a living hell (Don't forget Ukraine have a very large Jewish population, include the president himself, Zelenskyy)

That is the reason why 9 months down, and we are talking about IDF attacking the last strong hold in Gaza, and none of the H-Group have done anything meaningful. If there were things to be done, they would have done so already. We are talking about a total wipeout in Gaza here.

 

[Meengla]

The problem with it is that they all revolve Iran. But Iran probably would need Russia backing to have them attack Israel be it high or low intensity conflict. The issue here is, Israel is currently staying neutral in Ukraine, and if Russia F with Israel by letting Iran attack Israel themselves or using their proxies, that may change, unless you think those H - Group can eliminate Israel once and for all, if Israel remain, it have the capability to make Russia progress in Ukraine a living hell (Don't forget Ukraine have a very large Jewish population, include the president himself, Zelenskyy)

I don't buy the argument that Iran needs Russia's support to have the militias become hyper active against Israel. Hezbollah is already doing a lot of damage to Israel where the northern parts of Israel are abandoned to Israel's national embarassment. Houthis have blocked the Eilat Port and crippled traffic in the Suez Canal. It is the militias in Iraq and Syria which are mostly kept on low key attacks against Israel and that's probably because of some 'understanding' between Iran and America for the time being.
The H-Group can't militarily destroy Israel and I think they know that; part of that is it is not just Israel fighting--it is NATO itself on Israel's side. But the militias have been bleeding Israel and, while Gaza is paying a huge price, Israel is also considerably affected and the longer the conflict drags on, the worse it is for Israel.

PS. Somehow I think Trump's latest legal woes and if he doesn't win the 2024 elections is a bad news for Israel.

 

[UKBengali]

My post didn't ignore the militia surrounding Israel, it was mentioned on my original post.

The problem with it is that they all revolve Iran. But Iran probably would need Russia backing to have them attack Israel be it high or low intensity conflict. The issue here is, Israel is currently staying neutral in Ukraine, and if Russia F with Israel by letting Iran attack Israel themselves or using their proxies, that may change, unless you think those H - Group can eliminate Israel once and for all, if Israel remain, it have the capability to make Russia progress in Ukraine a living hell (Don't forget Ukraine have a very large Jewish population, include the president himself, Zelenskyy)

That is the reason why 9 months down, and we are talking about IDF attacking the last strong hold in Gaza, and none of the H-Group have done anything meaningful. If there were things to be done, they would have done so already. We are talking about a total wipeout in Gaza here.

There is nothing the occupiers of Palestine can supply to Ukraine to hurt Russia.

If you think they have something top-secret that the whole of US and Europe do not posses then pease share with us as that would be interesting.

 

[j_hungary]

I don't buy the argument that Iran needs Russia's support to have the militias become hyper active against Israel. Hezbollah is already doing a lot of damage to Israel where the northern parts of Israel are abandoned to Israel's national embarassment. Houthis have blocked the Eilat Port and crippled traffic in the Suez Canal. It is the militias in Iraq and Syria which are mostly kept on low key attacks against Israel and that's probably because of some 'understanding' between Iran and America for the time being.
The H-Group can't militarily destroy Israel and I think they know that; part of that is it is not just Israel fighting--it is NATO itself on Israel's side. But the militias have been bleeding Israel and, while Gaza is paying a huge price, Israel is also considerably affected and the longer the conflict drags on, the worse it is for Israel.

PS. Somehow I think Trump's latest legal woes and if he doesn't win the 2024 elections is a bad news for Israel.

well, if you are talking about Hezbolla or Houtis lobbing missile into Israel like they were in the last 20 or so years, sure, they don't need Russia. If you want anything more than that, then you either need Russia or China to counter the flow of US/Western Weapon into Israel. We aren't talking about Ukraine, US purse string is going to be wide open if Israel is in danger of being overrun, even a small inland incursion would probably trigger the GOP and Dem in congress that bend over backward and supply weapon to the IDF.

Otherwise, there aren't much H group can do, I mean you can seize a few ship or lob a few missile, it's not going to draw majority of IDF troop off gaza.

 

[j_hungary]

There is nothing the occupiers of Palestine can supply to Ukraine to hurt Russia.

If you think they have something top-secret that the whole of US and Europe do not posses then pease share with us as that would be interesting.

This is not the thread for it, nor would I tell you any secret.

But Russia steam in Ukraine is gone. Unless something drastic happen, the situation in Ukraine will be very bad for Russia, you may think "wow, they are opening a third front in Kharkiv" Well, if they can take Liptsy and Vovchansk, it may, but now they still can't, that in itself did not achieve anything other than holding a vew village here and there when the Ukrainian can still lob artillery (let alone missile, now that US relax the restriction of their weapon) from the 2 cities I mentioned before and the southern attack is blogged down. I mean they made 9 mile since they took Avdiivka 4 months ago, and that is when we hang the Ukrainian dry by withholding aid.

On the other hand, what can Israel supply that make a different you asked?? How about them being the biggest F-16 operator in the region (US already okay F-16 transfer), how about Iron Dome? How about Israeli drones?? They may even be crazy enough to send force to Ukraine to either train or fight the Russian directly, if they think Russia is intended to take them out by supporting Iran. I mean, they aren't NATO, we have no say on what they can or cannot do.