Will history repeat itself?

[Baadil]

Just so we're clear, I happen to be of a very socially liberal bent. Which is to say, idgaf. Like the saying goes.. jab mia biwi raazi, toh kya karega qazi ? I'm just doing social commentary here and speaking from anecdotal experience from among people I happen to know personally. I'm also Indian so I kinda have an idea about our society here.

and no, as Paitoo pointed out, there isn't any tenets or anything in the Dharm, not to my knowledge anyway... it is all purely driven by emotion.

Hardcore Hindu would be strictly vegetarian, and even picky about what vegetables lol.

No problem I am here to learn your perspectives and hopefully highlight something others consider worth learning.

it is all purely driven by emotion.

Mate some Muslims may also be driven by emotion but the primary material is there for you to have a look at. It would not hurt whenever you are able to

Islam makes claim to objectivity based upon belief in One God. Hence why in a separate thread, I have highlighted the contradiction of the idea of the proponents of two nation theory advocating a secular nation which @Asfandyar Bhittani provided evidence to indicate was not true.

I have also not had time to show my gratitude to @Nilgiri for sign-posting and including in a discussion regarding Kemalism and Secularism in general. However, as alluded to above, the principle is that what is defined as “objective” is incompatible between Secular and Islamic paradigm. In this regard, my primary grievance is with Pakistani proponents of Secularism.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

Neither.

Depends on two or three satraps.

If they stay put, Modi stays, humbled and weakened. It was always a coalition will remain a coalition.

If they rat, the other side comes in.

Neither.

Depends on two or three satraps.

If they stay put, Modi stays, humbled and weakened. It was always a coalition will remain a coalition.

If they rat, the other side comes in.

Good news now is with post poll support from Independents and small regional parties NDA now stands at 303 seats that means even without TDP and JDU it still has 275. PS I won't glorify Nitish Kumar by calling him a satrap, if he contests election on his own without support from either side won't win a single seat.

 

[Sharma Ji]

@Baadil see, Hinduism/Dharm has been around a lot longer than basically any still surviving belief system. There wasn't a challenger/opponent till relatively recently.

Jump to current day realities, we have an aggressively expansionist duo of xtianity and Islam hell bent of "converting" people. I understand it is part of those faiths to proseltyze, in this regard, Muslims don't even come close to the Xtians.. unki toh competition and awards ceremony bhi hoti hai every year in the Vatican about who converted the most.

That, then, has given rise to what we see now with the Hindus and their "ghar wapasi" etc

The two nation theory, I'm morally opposed to, I still do believe we can all get along just fine.. never ever had a faith based lafda with anyone, but then again, things as they stand. There's hotheads on both sides. The unyielding Musalmans, clinging to every word in their book vs the new virat Hindu out to conserve and save his way of life (also a definition of the word Sanatan Dharm aka the eternal way)

Dunno man, I'm no expert on any of it.. as long as there's no violence of any sort, I'm fine with the mirch masala of it all.

 

[Sharma Ji]

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oops, missed this.. there is also the little matter of the many Islamic conquests etc which bothers the Hindus and fills the Muslims with at least a degree of glee.. we wuz kangz type.

its a mess, enjoy karo.. but if ever we have an outsider poking into.. we'll all coalesce and take out all our bhadaar and anger at the 3rd.. so Pakistan, beware... don't try be a hero and come to the rescue of anyone..

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door se photo le lo jitni leni hai, beech me bhaag ke don't be siding with one

 

[Mrloveday]

To the Liberals and Muslims celebrating.
Hindutva is far from dead.

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[Joe Shearer]

To the Liberals and Muslims celebrating.
Hindutva is far from dead.

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Many interpretations possible.

Frustrated bhakts reacting.

More than individuals, an institutional response - perhaps by a local chapter of a larger grouping, perhaps higher up.

Besides frustration and a spirit of revenge, may be a dog whistle to send the word out that business would be as usual.

Dark and menacing As ever. Have been of the opinion that change is inevitable. Am I wrong?

 

[Mrloveday]

Many interpretations possible.

Frustrated bhakts reacting.

More than individuals, an institutional response - perhaps by a local chapter of a larger grouping, perhaps higher up.

Besides frustration and a spirit of revenge, may be a dog whistle to send the word out that business would be as usual.

Dark and menacing As ever. Have been of the opinion that change is inevitable. Am I wrong?

I don't know about you. But Liberals and Muslims are celebrating as if Hindutva is on its death bed. One war or pan India riots could change the equation.

What if the above incidents occur and the BJP resigns and calls for another election and wins 400+ seats. Then what.

Btw this special kind of speed limit designed for me is psychotic.

 

[Mrloveday]

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