Türkiye's NATO membership | News & Developments

[Awwad]

They dont need to fight Russia
B-61 Thermonuclear Bombs in Turkiye will be enough for deterrence against Russia

Russia can not fire even a bullet to Turkiye
and you are dreaming about Russian nuclear attack on Turkiye

Russia can not use nuclear weapons against even Ukraine
except WW3 Nobody can use nuclear weapons

I agree Russia won't do a nuclear attack against anyone. Russia will not use nuclear weapons against anyone unless NATO launches an attack on Russian soil.

But, if 1000s of things go wrong and Russia & Turkey come face to face on a nuclear scenario then those few nuclear warheads with Turkey won't matter much. Russia do not have 50 or 100 warheads. They have in excess of 5000, its their most high end and resource intensive force. nuclear forces are their strength. Plus Russia has so massive land mass that it naturally got more chances of survival in a counter strike then its enemies. No sane country would want to push Russia towards a nuclear war.

 

[MMM-E]

To develop 5th gen Fighter Jet with turbofan Engine is harder than developing a Nuclear Bomb


The problem is not technology but political decision


After developing all conventional weapon technologies, including engines, Turkiye must move to the nuclear power league

a very assertive statement from Turkish professor
Turkiye has power to develop nucleear weapons
if Turkish Government order us to develop nuclear Bomb...we can do it within 6 months

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[eIsQengiz]

I don't get how Russia could any longer be considered a threat to Turkey?

Turkey has better conventional military and has good weapons manufacturing capability.

Nato won't lift a finger if Russia uses nuclear weapons on Turkey.

Very wrong and conspiracy because Turkey believes first in God lord wisdom and then in the true conscience of a nation self-aspirations that knows what its people believe Will not rely on Europe's Turkish-phobic proud crusader America to protect itself from neighbours.

Turkiye does not need to, but if it does, it will have access to raw materials such as full cycle and plutonium enrichment capabilities and spent fuel rods, which are manufactured with help from foreign Russia. Liberty Nuclear Power Plant and Türkiye Nuclear Power Plant have both industrial and nuclear facilities. The use of local resources is well known in any European city where nuclear power is discovered. How can the Russian army be protected from the threat of Turkish bombs or any city in the world? Türkiye could at least be protected by the NATO agreement. By Allah, stop joking.

 

[PakFactor]

The Americans, at least, keep their promises. With Russia, you're basically playing Russian Roulette and most of the time you will lose, because it's their game. Many people from the former Soviet Union will tell you how untrustworthy and shady the Russian way of conduct is.

Our experience with the Americans is no different from others' experience with Russia. With the Americans, you are merely a useful tool for them to achieve their political, economic, and military aims. You will get what you need, and afterwards, you will become a case study that others fail to learn from.

 

[hyperman]

Turkey is not going to be attacked by Russia, there is no need for Turkey and Russia to fight.

Regardless Turkey is prepared for all contingencies.

 

[samejjangir]

Turkish Armed Forces protect B-61 Thermonuclear Bombs in INCIRLIK Air Base

That's not how things work. Turkey did know where and how many Nukes present in their land but yes they need approval and codes to launch them means they can only be used with US approval.

It is illegal by international agreements and standards to allow transfer or sale of nuclear weapons. Turkey has no knowledge or control on the nukes USA keeps. Even though the trigger & launch coordinates is controlled by encrypted codes, the warhead can be disassembled for study & reverse engineering and that will also pose a serious threat or proliferation.

USA's nukes are kept in USA military bases only without foreign security. The nukes don't belong to NATO as a whole but only to USA as an individual country. USA can't give nuclear weapons to Turkey in any form and its usage, mismanagement, theft etc will directly be blamed on USA and can face retaliation too. This was also the case with CSTO or USSR security pacts.

There was even a major source of contention in 1962 when USSR planned a nuclear launch site in Cuba. USA & USSR made agreements regarding the nuclear weapon ownerships, protocols etc to prevent 3rd countries from misusing nuclear weapons of USA & USSR & dragging them to war.

As far as rumours go, there were serious movement after the coup attempt failed in Turkey and likely that USA shifted its nukes to another country.

 

[MMM-E]

USA's nukes are kept in USA military bases only without foreign security.

INCIRLIK Airbase is not American Airbase
Türkiye cannot use B-61 nuclear Bombs itself, neither can the USA.

There are double lock security system
Both Turkish and American officers have the locks and codes of the warehouses and B-61 Bombs

40 of 90 B-61 Nuclear Bombs are allocated for use by the Turkish Air Force F-16s in case of a nuclear conflict with Russia

but USA replaced old B-61 nuclear Bombs with new B-61-12 thermonuclear Bombs to carry by even stealth F-35s


so still Turkiye hosts 50 B-61-12 thermonuclear Bombs for NATO's nuclear weapon sharing policy

As far as rumours go, there were serious movement after the coup attempt failed in Turkey and likely that USA shifted its nukes to another country.

Incirlik - Report prepared for the NATO Parliamentary Assembly in 2019
'The USA has nuclear weapons in 6 places, including the base in Turkiye


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[MMM-E]

Turkiye is a major NATO member


NATO Allied Land Command
LANDCOM HQ in Izmir-TURKIYE

https://lc.nato.int/

Turkish Army is 2nd strongest Army in NATO after USA Army

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

I don't get how Russia could any longer be considered a threat to Turkey?

Turkey has better conventional military and has good weapons manufacturing capability.

Nato won't lift a finger if Russia uses nuclear weapons on Turkey.

They would probably join in, especially the Greeks.

The Americans, at least, keep their promises.

Lol, Pakistan is still waiting for the carrier group of our SEATO and CENTO ally to help out since 1971. Forget old stuff, they just betrayed their puppets in Afghanistan with who lm they had signed the BSA, by signing another agreement with Taliban in doha without them at the table. Left them hanging to planes, literally.

 

[Foinikas]

Turkey is not going to be attacked by Russia, there is no need for Turkey and Russia to fight.

Regardless Turkey is prepared for all contingencies.

Ironically,in Orthodox prophecy it is implied or even said,that Russians will be the ones who will eventually annihilate Turkey.

 

[Oublious]

Ironically,in Orthodox prophecy it is implied or even said,that Russians will be the ones who will eventually annihilate Turkey.

lol

we saw Ukraine war, but thats not the case in thise case . How you make this out of that post give us away your intention. Fighting each others is not good but if they attack would end of us. This is not greece....

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Ironically,in Orthodox prophecy it is implied or even said,that Russians will be the ones who will eventually annihilate Turkey.

I think that's happened when original Turks (Central Asian Russian states) annihilate people lived in current turkey.

 

[samejjangir]

INCIRLIK Airbase is not American Airbase
Türkiye cannot use B-61 nuclear Bombs itself, neither can the USA.

There are double lock security system
Both Turkish and American officers have the locks and codes of the warehouses and B-61 Bombs

40 of 90 B-61 Nuclear Bombs are allocated for use by the Turkish Air Force F-16s in case of a nuclear conflict with Russia

but USA replaced old B-61 nuclear Bombs with new B-61-12 thermonuclear Bombs to carry by even stealth F-35s


so still Turkiye hosts 50 B-61-12 thermonuclear Bombs for NATO's nuclear weapon sharing policy




Incirlik - Report prepared for the NATO Parliamentary Assembly in 2019
'The USA has nuclear weapons in 6 places, including the base in Turkiye

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Thanks for the document. It dispels the rumours of USA withdrawing nukes from Turkey.
However, regarding my first point regarding control of nukes, Please read the notes numbered as 1,2,3,4,5 where it clearly says that ownership lies with USA, UK & France (as they are nuclear powers themselves).
So, the nukes in Turkey are completely in control of USA forces. Turkey has no way of using them unless they fight the USA forces and take over. Also, the nukes are gravity bombs, not missile launched which makes it much less potent as the planes/bombers can be taken out much more easily.

 

[Sarsilmaz]

Turkey will certainly not become a victim of American politics. As long as Russia does not attack Turkey, Turkey will remain neutral.
To nuclear weapons : God save humanity.

 

[UKBengali]

Thanks for the document. It dispels the rumours of USA withdrawing nukes from Turkey.
However, regarding my first point regarding control of nukes, Please read the notes numbered as 1,2,3,4,5 where it clearly says that ownership lies with USA, UK & France (as they are nuclear powers themselves).
So, the nukes in Turkey are completely in control of USA forces. Turkey has no way of using them unless they fight the USA forces and take over. Also, the nukes are gravity bombs, not missile launched which makes it much less potent as the planes/bombers can be taken out much more easily.

Without the US codes they cannot use them.