Bhojpuranchali
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Turkey's modern, progressive, and strong image is largely due to its alliance with NATO and the Western world. Without this alliance, Turkey might resemble some mulla regime like Iran or, worse, Pakistan.
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MMM-E
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There are double lock security system
Both Turkish and American officers have the locks and codes of the warehouses and B-61 Bombs
Turkish System and software protect B-61 Nuclear Bombs in Turkiye
Americans can not use B-61 Nuclear Bombs without Turkiye
and Turks can not use them without USA
MMM-E
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USA modified B-61 Nuclear Bombs to carry by F-35 stealth Fighter Jets
and USA replacing old B-61s in Turkiye with new B-61-12 theronuclear Bombs to carry by F-35s
B61-12 Flight Test with F35-A Lightning II
but USA blocked sale of 100 F-35A to Turkiye even Turkiye was a global partner of the F-35 program
6 Turkish F-35s have been in storage since 2019
USA destroying Turkiye's deterrence defending NATO's southern flank against Russia
USA is trying to turn the Turkish Air Force into the Iranian Air Force
Thanks to Turkish Defense Industry for the KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet program
USA should allow Turkiye to integrate B-61-12 nuclear Bombs into the KAAN stealth Fighter Jet
F-35 or KAAN could easily break the enemy’s air defense line and handle the nuclear missions.
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Bhojpuranchali
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Why did Turkey buy the S-400 system from Russia despite knowing it would create problems with the delivery of the F-35?
MMM-E
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Turkiye's decision to acquire the Russian S-400 air defense system is a matter of national security
Because USA did not sale PATRIOT Air Defense System to Turkiye
Even Greece has S300 and PATRIOT
but regional power Turkiye had nothing except outdated HAWK AD Systems
Turkiye : We want to buy PATRIOT AD System
USA : NO
Turkiye : then we buy FD-2000 AD System from China
USA : Ohh no cancel deal with China . we will give PATRIOT to Turkiye
Turkiye : Ok we canceled deal with China ... give us PATRIOT
USA : NO
Turkiye : then we buy S400 from Russia
USA : Ohh no cancel deal with Russia . we will give PATRIOT to Turkiye
Turkiye : STFU
USA : Turkiye is bad ally , Turkiye deviates from NATO ... crying and crying
Problem is not S400
Israel forced USA to block sale of F-35s to Turkiye
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Bhojpuranchali
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Has USA sold patriot air defense system to Other Countries?
I don't understand why US would deny the Patriot air defense system to Turkey when they are already selling their best military tech, like F-35, to Turkey.
and Israel cannot force USA to take such a big decision, Neither is F-35 a weapon of mass destruction that poses an existential threat to Israel. However, by purchasing the S-400 from Russia, Turkey ensured it wouldn't receive the F-35.
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Foinikas
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We don't know when that will happen,but some of the descriptions imply a big use of force,heavy weapons,probably even nukes. As for the rest of your post,I don't understand what you're saying.lol
we saw Ukraine war, but thats not the case in thise case. How you make this out of that post give us away your intention. Fighting each others is not good but if they attack would end of us. This is not greece....
MMM-E
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Greeks are dreaming about it but this is a wishful thinking
nothing else
Why your orthodox prophecy did say nothing about war between Ukraine ( NATO ) and Russia ?
Because nobody can know the future
Russia can not annihilate even weak Ukraine
stop dreaming with Russia ... your new hope is nuclear power France .... lol
The Greek Prime Minister's statement in parliament
"France is the guarantor of Greece. The only nuclear power of the EU will be on our side if we are attacked."
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MMM-E
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Stupid American embargoes makes Turkiye as a global power in Defense Industry
1-- USA blocked sale of UCAVs to Turkiye
and Turkiye was become Drone super power with its own TB-2/3 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
2-- USA sold only 3 used AH-1W Super Cobra Attack Helicopter to Turkiye
and now Turkiye produce 85 T-129 Attack Helicopters
and Turkiye developed TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine
also Turkish T-929 heavy Attack Helicopter made the first flight in 2023
( only USA , Russia , China and Turkiye in the world )
3-- USA blocked sale of PATRIOT Air Defense System to Turkiye
and Turkiye create its own Air Defense umbrella which is one of the best in the world
( KORKUT , GOKER , LASER Weapon , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O , SIPER and GUMS )
with Gan based early warning AESA Radars ALP-300G , ALP-500G
4-- USA blocked sale of F-35 to Turkiye
and Turkiye develops 4 stealth Fighter Jets ..manned and unmanned
KAAN , ANKA-3 , ANKA-4 and KIZILELMA
Even Turkiye has started developing the 6th gen Fighter Jet
Foinikas
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It comes from centuries ago,even early byzantine times before the Turks appeared in Anatolia. And also Russian Saints and Elders have talked about it later. A lot of wars and conflicts are not mentioned,there are things foretold that God allowed certain people to know about. But the time,the time is only known to God.
You forget that Russia has nukes. You keep forgetting it. And again,you don't consider Russia becoming stronger. You see how they're having a hard time in Ukraine now,but you forget older wars. You forget how they eventually turned the tide on the Mongols,you forget how Napoleon reached Moscow and then was in retreat until the Grand Armee was destroyed,how they were losing in WWI and started winning near the end(until of course the bolsheviks betrayed their country and took power),you forget how the USSR suffered massive losses and more than a million POWs when the Axis invaded in 1941 they reached Leningrad,Moscow and Stalingrad and then the Soviets were on the offence,not only kicking them out of the USSR,but reaching Berlin.
Foinikas
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No man.
MMM-E
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Turkiye is a NATO member
and Turkiye hosts nuclear Bombs too
never forget that sooner or later Countries like Iran , S.Arabia and Turkiye will become nuclear powers ...
And you dont consider Turkiye becoming stronger and stronger year by year
with Turkish Defense Industry which develops superior technologies
in the next 10 years Turkish military power will go to another level
Turkiye has started developing even 6th gen Fighter Jet , Hypersonic Missiles , Ballistic Missile Defense System , Ballistic Missiles up to 5000 km , Aircraft Carrier , Destroyer , Submarines and many more
without nuclear weapons , Russia can not win in Turkish soil ... not even close
And it doesn't seem like there will be a war between Russia and Turkiye in the near future.
Russia and Turkiye becomes ever partners in In many fields including nuclear energy
It is more likely that a NATO-Russia war will break out over Ukraine
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Bhojpuranchali
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Instead of investing in the KAAN, Turkey should have prioritized developing an indigenous S-400 or Patriot-like air defense system and obtained the F-35 from the USA. The F-35 is the most advanced military technology available right now. I don't understand why Turkey was so desperate for an air defense system that it jeopardized the delivery of such a high-end fighter jet like the F-35 and its relations with the USA.
Foinikas
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Yes,we've heard that before from you. You think everyone wants to save Turkey. A time comes when other countries will be tired of Turkey's capricious stance.
Yes,interspace hyperwar galactic level.
Well then,it might be nukes.
MMM-E
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Thanks we dont need F-35 and PATRIOT anymore
1-- Turkiye has developed its own Air Defense UMBRELLA including SIPER high altitude Air Defense System with 700+ km ALP-301G AESA Radar
2-- Turkiye develops 4 stealth platforms KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 and ANKA-4 for future tactical air combat concept which will be superior to F-35
Turkiye has started developing even 6th gen Fighter Jet
Because not F-35 but S400s saved Turkiye from multinational alliance in the Eastern Mediterranean
after failed coup attemt in 2016 , Turkiye has started military operations in Syria to block USA-Israel-France backed PKK-YPG terror state in Syria
and over 30 Warships from NATO stationed in the Eastern Mediterranean against Turkiye
S400s was game changer to protect Turkish national security .....
Turkiye's decision to acquire the Russian S-400 air defense system is a matter of national security
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