Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Falcon29 said:
Israeli Channel 13 quotes Israeli officials as saying: We are not optimistic that Hezbollah will agree to Washington’s demands during the negotiations.

The first point that can be concluded is that what will be conveyed to Lebanon was proposed by America and “Israel” was informed of it, and of course it takes into account what it wants.

Secondly, the Israelis know that Hezbollah will not give gifts and that its principles are clear.Most importantly, the issue of “security guarantees” and “Hezbollah’s withdrawal” is something that Hezbollah will not even accept to hear in any conveyed proposals.Yes, the one who has the right to put forward demands is the resistance and the Lebanese state.

The one who should retreat and give up is Israeli occupation , especially since the resistance is in the initiator's position, and the field speaks for itself.

Stopping the war on Gaza and meeting the conditions of resistance is the key to everything.

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Grandpa genocide Joe and his European friends are literally begging Hamas to accept a deal. The Americans and Europeans know that the other half of the world views them as complicit.

How can the European and Americans look the other half of the world in the eyes and complain about China and Russia?
 
Dalit said:
Grandpa genocide Joe and his European friends are literally begging Hamas to accept a deal. The Americans and Europeans know that the other half of the world views them as complicit.
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No they aren't. They're trying to frame Hamas. Hamas supports a ceasefire resolution. Israel doesn't, and is seeking a temporary pause, after it will resume its quest of 'total victory' which nobody knows what that means. Does it mean wiping off Gaza entirely or what more needs to happen ? Or permanent occupation of Gaza?

Kudos to Hamas and Palestinians for fighting for their survival. But that doesn't mean we can downplay situation in Gaza for whatever reasons. Hamas is very limited in its ability to make offensive moves that can strengthen its position at the table. It's defensive for the most part and it's about survival right now.
 
Falcon29 said:
Netanyahu rejects ceasefire talks again. No end in sight for war on Gaza. New excuse is today is Palestinians stopped a Israeli APC inside of Gaza from murdering Palestinians and occupying their land. Netanyahu is behaving as if Israel is a superpower. Which it is not. But, rather, he relies on the Jewish lobby in the US to enable a war on Lebanon near election season (later in September or afterwards) and also wants to drag conflict into what is likely going to be Trump's second term.

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Is a stalemate really going to improve the lives of Palestinians? The Zionist apartheid system won't end for ordinary Palestinians.

The way I see it, Israel needs to be taught a good lesson here. Netanyahu had promised that he would eliminate Hamas. Almost 9 months into this conflict he is not even 10% close to his promise. Hamas is at full strength and attacking Zionist soldiers every single day.

This war has made Israel very unpopular in the world. The amount of criticism and hate against Israel is unprecedented. Social media is full of it. Never have we witnessed such wide criticism against Israel on a global level. Entire nations are boycotting and dragging Israel at the criminal court. Unprecedented. Netanyahu is on a suicide mission. Israelis don't feel safe outside their stolen land. He cannot defeat Hamas. Let this go on and let's see where the ship strands.
 
Falcon29 said:
No they aren't. They're trying to frame Hamas. Hamas supports a ceasefire resolution. Israel doesn't, and is seeking a temporary pause, after it will resume its quest of 'total victory' which nobody knows what that means. Does it mean wiping off Gaza entirely or what more needs to happen ? Or permanent occupation of Gaza?

Kudos to Hamas and Palestinians for fighting for their survival. But that doesn't mean we can downplay situation in Gaza for whatever reasons. Hamas is very limited in its ability to make offensive moves that can strengthen its position at the table. It's defensive for the most part and it's about survival right now.
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I agree. The Palestinians have taught us all what sacrifice means. The Palestinians are sacrificing their lives and don't cower in face of Zionist aggression.
 
Dalit said:
Is a stalemate really going to improve the lives of Palestinians? The Zionist apartheid system won't end for ordinary Palestinians.

The way I see it, Israel needs to be taught a good lesson here. Netanyahu had promised that he would eliminate Hamas. Almost 9 months into this conflict he is not even 10% close to his promise. Hamas is at full strength and attacking Zionist soldiers every single day.

This war has made Israel very unpopular in the world. The amount of criticism and hate against Israel is unprecedented. Social media is full of it. Never have we witnessed such wide criticism of Israel on global level. Netanyahu is on a suicide mission. Israelis don't feel safe outside their stolen land. He cannot defeat Hamas. Let this go on and let's see where the ship strands.
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Hamas is not at full strength. But Israel's objective here is a permanent occupation of Gaza and changing its status. And long term, attempt to remove Palestinians of Gaza. And send them elsewhere. You seem to be looking at it through resistance axis lens only.

We as Palestinians are not. Palestinian people's survival matters here. We don't want to see more of our people killed or more of Gaza destoryed. And Hamas's viewpoint is the same as the Palestinian people. Netanyahu is dragging this on for nefarious purposes. And he could make it much more dangerous in the coming year. Yes it's bad for Israel too, which is good. But the global general public has to know what's going on. That Israel's extremist government is acting irrationally and trying to usher in some bizarre religious fundamentalist prophecy by triggering a larger war and famine across the region.
 
Falcon29 said:
Hamas is not at full strength. But Israel's objective here is a permanent occupation of Gaza and changing its status. And long term, attempt to remove Palestinians of Gaza. And send them elsewhere. You seem to be looking at it through resistance axis lens only.

We as Palestinians are not. Palestinian people's survival matters here. We don't want to see more of our people killed or more of Gaza destoryed. And Hamas's viewpoint is the same as the Palestinian people. Netanyahu is dragging this on for nefarious purposes. And he could make it much more dangerous in the coming year. Yes it's bad for Israel too, which is good. But the global general public has to know what's going on. That Israel's extremist government is acting irrationally and trying to usher in some bizarre religious fundamentalist prophecy by triggering a larger war and famine across the region.
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The general public and the world at large knows what is going on in Palestine. Exactly because of Netanyahu's genocidal actions. Like I have already tried to explain, the amount of criticism against Israel is unprecedented. Israel and Netanyahu have underestimated the response from the world. Israel is today viewed as a child killing machine by the vast majority in the world.
 
Israel army rebuking Netanyahu right after his press statement. Signaling they don't see a reason to drag this on and that they see Netanyahu is leading them into the unknown for his own selfish reasons.

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Persian Gulf said:
Likely 5-6x more (50-60) injured as well.
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If you look at Wikipedia for the Yom Kippur War statistics (we call it the October or Ramadan War of 1973), they list the Israeli deaths as 2,500 or so while Egypt's anywhere from 12,000 to 15,500.

Sisi just declassified a lot of the Egyptian military records about 6 months ago and in those documents were very detailed counts of enemy losses from armor, aircraft & personnel by all the Egyptian battalion & division commanders and for personnel, they totaled roughly 17,000 KIA, not including wounded because many of them were not only observed and noted but were photographed in field by soldiers and in the air by MiG-21 and other recon aircraft. Just goes to show you what kind of liars these demons are.

Just couple of several shots of scattered dead demons photographed by EAF MiG-21Rs. Many of them had to be burried in the Sinai because of the time it was going to take to SAR them back, they were rotting in the heat. Demons rot fast and stink up the joint baaad.

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Even with their fighters they lost a lot more than what they published, even denying a pivotal air battle over Mansoura on October 14th where the EAF scored 17 kills to 3 losses when they thought they could just bomb the Mansoua & Tanta airbases and all the fighters on the ground like they did in 1967. Little did they know BIG SURPRIIIISE they got smack-bitch-slapped-punched in the face hard to the point they completely denied the battle took place. That's why they go to the ends of the world to deny us AMRAAMs lol evil bastards.

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They know we would put them on ice then roast them.
So much more but I think you get the point.
 
GoMig-21 said:
If you look at Wikipedia for the Yom Kippur War statistics (we call it the October or Ramadan War of 1973), they list the Israeli deaths as 2,500 or so while Egypt's anywhere from 12,000 to 15,500.

Sisi just declassified a lot of the Egyptian military records about 6 months ago and in those documents were very detailed counts of enemy losses from armor, aircraft & personnel by all the Egyptian battalion & division commanders and for personnel, they totaled roughly 17,000 KIA, not including wounded because many of them were not only observed and noted but were photographed in field by soldiers and in the air by MiG-21 and other recon aircraft. Just goes to show you what kind of liars these demons are.

Just couple of several shots of scattered dead demons photographed by EAF MiG-21Rs. Many of them had to be burried in the Sinai because of the time it was going to take to SAR them back, they were rotting in the heat. Demons rot fast and stink up the joint baaad.

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Even with their fighters they lost a lot more than what they published, even denying a pivotal air battle over Mansoura on October 14th where the EAF scored 17 kills to 3 losses when they thought they could just bomb the Mansoua & Tanta airbases and all the fighters on the ground like they did in 1967. Little did they know BIG SURPRIIIISE they got smack-bitch-slapped-punched in the face hard to the point they completely denied the battle took place. That's why they go to the ends of the world to deny us AMRAAMs lol evil bastards.

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They know we would put them on ice then roast them.
So much more but I think you get the point.
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If there is enough declassified material create a separate thread to add content. It would be a good source for research.
 
Falcon29 said:
Strange gaslighting by Netanyahu. Israeli army advised to make a ceasefire in Gaza as objectives are complete. Netanyahu claims people at receiving end of genocide are trying to annihilate Israel so they must continue the war.

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the current Israeli government is so right wing even centre right Zionists have jumped ship

they are so extreme and satanic evil even Chuck Schumer turned against them

but guess what? UK, Germany and USA back them eyes closed

just blind support for Israel
 
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