Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Meengla]

I can smell defeat not only in this column but also in many of the Comments to this column. Until recently, Israelis in the Comments were solidly behind Netanyahu, but that's changing.
Enjoy!!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-war-winds-down-diplomacy-is-paramount-but-netanyahu-has-other-priorities/

 

[Foinikas]

What you advocate for exactly and can you give a way how to persuade zionist to accept any just solution?
I would say that is a real dream, in that sense there is no other option then struggle.

So basically,you rushed to trash-talk about me again,without knowing the context. We were talking about a two-State solution.

 

[Solomon2]

Institute for the Study of War

A senior Israeli negotiator told Agence France-Presse on June 17 that Hamas still holds “dozens” of living hostages in the Gaza Strip. The official said that Hamas — rather than other militias — is holding most of the hostages.

understandingwar.org

 

[Foinikas]

Zimbabwe is fine, it's people have the ability to choose their own path whatever it is without the colonial scum

Colonial "scum"? Zimbambwe's blacks enjoyed the best treatment in all of Africa,however communist guerillas and world politics turned against Rhodesia with the results we have now.

Freedom and independence is everything, you have to make your own path,

 

[VCheng]

It's point I'm trying to make, the same bullshitters who for decades banged on about human rights, LGBT crap and pointed fingers, wages wars, killed millions
They themselves have become stuck, trying to bullshit the world about Ukraine whilst supporting genocide in Gaza

Your point as stated above may or may not be valid depending on your world view, but I do not think it has any relevance to the topic of this thread.

 

[Solomon2]

Poll: Over half of Arab Israelis feel sense of ‘shared destiny’ with Jews​

Survey of Arab citizens also finds that over two thirds are in favor of an Arab party joining a future government coalition, and 40% say it doesn’t have to be a center-left one​

By GIANLUCA PACCHIANI
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An Arab Israeli girl casts her mother's ballot at a polling station in the northern Israeli town of Umm al-Fahm on March 17, 2015. (AFP/Ahmad Gharabli)

Just over half of Arab Israelis (51.6%) feel that the prolonged war against Hamas in Gaza has given rise to a sense of “shared destiny” between Arab and Jewish citizens of Israel, according to a recent survey by the Moshe Dayan Center at Tel Aviv University.

The poll, which was presented at TAU’s conference “The Future of Israel” on Wednesday, found that a slight majority of Arabs across religious denominations (Druze, Christians and Muslims) identify with that statement.
The poll was based on a representative sample of 502 Arab citizens of Israel above the age of 18, and was initiated by the Konrad Adenauer Program for Jewish-Arab Cooperation, supported by the German Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung. The survey analyzed expectations for the future of the Gaza Strip and perceptions of the ongoing conflict’s impact on the Arab minority inside the Jewish state.


Asked about who should run Gaza the day after the war, most respondents (58.5%) said that the administration should be in the hands of Palestinians. Of those, 24.4% said they would prefer local bodies from Gaza to manage the Strip, followed by 19.4% who said it should be governed by the Palestinian Authority, and 14.7% said who by Hamas.
Conversely, 34.4% of respondents said that an external non-Palestinian body should govern the coastal enclave. Of those, 19.4% opted for an international force, 8.4% chose Israel and 6.5% favored a coalition of Arab states.

As for the conflict’ impact on the personal lives of Arab Israelis, 67.8% of respondents reported they now find themselves in a relatively good economic situation, in stark contrast to the early days of the war. In November, 64.9% said their finances had been negatively affected by the war.


Volunteers at the Rahat community center sorting goods and creating packages, October 2023. (courtesy)
However, amid a persistent deadly crime wave in the community, almost three quarters of those polled (74%) reported a low sense of safety, while 60.6% indicated that violence and crime were the most pressing issue affecting Arab Israeli communities.

The Abraham Initiatives, a coexistence watchdog that monitors violent crime in the Arab community, says 98 Arabs have been killed so far in 2024 in incidents of violent crime. More Arabs were murdered in 2023 (244) than in any previous year, according to a year-end report published by the Abraham Initiatives. The figure was over twice as many as in 2022, indicating a significant upward trend amid a proliferation of illegal weapons and organized crime.

Widespread support for a seat in government​

Arab citizens appear to largely back increased participation in political life. A clear majority, or 68.6%, indicated that an Arab party should join a governing coalition in the next elections, including 40.2% who said that it did not necessarily have to be a center-left government.

Arab political parties have traditionally foregone participation in Israeli governments. Ra’am made history in the last, short-lived government by being the first Arab party in decades to join a coalition.

Only 14.2% indicated that they are firmly against any Arab party joining or supporting a ruling coalition.


Yesh Atid leader Yair Lapid (L), Yamina leader Naftali Bennett (C) and Ra’am leader Mansour Abbas sign a coalition agreement on June 2, 2021. (Courtesy of Ra’am)
Arik Rudnitzky, Director of the Konrad Adenauer Program, who led the survey, said in a press statement: “The study shows that the current war between Israel and Hamas, which is the longest and hardest in the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since 1948, has not altered the political compass of Israel’s Arab citizens.”

“Israel’s Arab citizens worry about their brethren in Gaza, which is only natural and should be respected,” Rudnitzky continued. “However, it’s important to understand that sympathizing with Palestinians in Gaza is not the same as identifying with their political leadership. In fact, a significant part of the survey’s respondents believe that local elements in Gaza, and not Hamas, should govern life in the Gaza Strip after the war, and another third say that a non-Palestinian body should do this.

“In addition, readiness for political collaboration with the Israeli government… alongside an emphasis on Israeli identity combined with a deep Arab or religious identity – all these prove that Israel’s Arab citizens are an integral part of Israeli society, not only in theory, but in practice as well. The conclusions emerging from the current survey are important not only to decision makers in the country, but also to every citizen who believes in a true partnership between Jews and Arabs within Israel,” he said.

 

[Antonius123]

1. The Arabs are semites so they can't be antisemitic. I don't know why dumb euros can't understand that simple fact.
2. The Zionists go back to Europe where they came from. I don't know why dumb euros can't understand that simple fact.
3. It's not that we are the haters. Genocidal Holocaust of Palestinians is something we hate.

The dumbest is those who dont know reality.

 

[clutch]

The dumbest is those who dont know reality.

The dumbest are those that assume they know what is the reality.

 

[Antonius123]

X people are living in Y location for 1 thousand years and passing land and culture on for generations. Z comes along, kicks them all out using terrorism, and then claims to be the victims.

See how stupid your argument is when you remove names, remove strawman arguments like genetics, and stick to facts?

You have no argument whatsoever that gives legitimacy to Israel.

The so called X people can be labelled as the land stealer also. They were not originated from the land.

 

[Solomon2]

• June 30, 1924 Dutch Jew Jacob Israël de Haan was assassinated by Avraham Tehomi on the orders of Haganah leader Yitzhak Ben-Zvi[43] for his anti-Zionist political activities and contacts with Arab leaders.[44]
• 1937–1939 During the later stages of the 1936-1939 Arab Revolt in Mandatory Palestine The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250. The group also killed a number of Jews it deemed guilty of "treason."[45][46]
• July 15, 1938 A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28.[47]
• July 25, 1938 The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths.[48]
• November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Kingdom of Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins were brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[49]
• 1944–1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
• 1946 Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi.[50]
• July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people — 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured. In the literature about the practice and history of terrorism, it has been called one of the most lethal terrorist attacks of the 20th century.[51]
• 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
• October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[52]
• April 16, 1947 An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[53] The woman arrested for planting the bomb, alias "Esther," was identified as a Jewess claiming French nationality by the Scotland Yard unit investigating Jewish terrorist activities. The attack was linked to the 1946 Rome embassy bombing.[54][55]
• 14 June 1947 The Reuters office in Tel Aviv was raided by "Jewish terrorists."[56]
• July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[57]
• December 1947 – March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine.
• 1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi.[58]
• January 5–6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people.
• April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[59] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[60][61]
• September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte,[62][63] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.

Abu Shusha Massacre (May 1948)
Tantura Massacre (May 1948)
Lydda Massacre (July 1948)
Saliha Massacre (October 1948)
Al-Dawayima Massacre (October, 1948)
Qibya Massacre (October 1953)
Kafr Qasim Massacre (October 1956)
Khan Yunis Massacre (November 1956)
Sabra and Shatila Massacres (September 1982)
Al-Aqsa Massacre (October 1990)
The Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre (February 1994)
Jenin Refugee Camp (April 2002)
2008-09: The Gaza Massacre


Is this specific enough for you?

Good that you have a specific list. Not so good that you delete contexts when you find them inconvenient. You can develop further accuracy by eliminating from this list instances of self-defense, accident, fog of war, or actions by third parties inaccurately attributed to Zionists or Israel. Come back when you do.

 

[hussain0216]

Colonial "scum"? Zimbambwe's blacks enjoyed the best treatment in all of Africa,however communist guerillas and world politics turned against Rhodesia with the results we have now.


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Are you seriously making a claim for colonialism?

 

[Flotilla]

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[925boy]

Demonstrations continue in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem to implement their demands to topple Netanyahu's government and conclude a prisoner exchange deal.

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This makes realize that the Israeli govt is fighting 2 serious wars at the same time- an external one, and an internal one.

The external one is against Gaza, Palestinians and the resistance axis, the internal one is against common Israelis- the volume and intensity of these protests in Tel Aviv speak words- many Israelis obviously dislike and oppose their current govt- Lets see Netanyahu and the Israeli govt get out of this chaos undamaged and unchanged. The actual change in the war and region starts the day after an actual ceasefire starts.

 

[Aziqbal]

God bless Hezbollah

Iran please help Hezbollah

God is with you

 

[clutch]

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