Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Liquidator said:
Agreed

One state only option.
Jews to live under Islamic rule as they did in Spain and Palestine. In peace, and able to practice their own laws.

Remember their golden age was under Islamic rule. They followed us out of Spain for fear of safety when Christians retook Spain.
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How fast would they be extinct under a modern Islamic Palestine country? You think the Palestinian radicals and their affiliates from around the world,would not start pogroms and violence against them?
 
Foinikas said:
Israel's entire history? What are you even talking about? :rolleyes: Are you going to hate the Israelites now as well?
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Yes, the hardcore Zionists have been eying Eretz Yisrael Hashlema since before Israel was even created. The only thing to be hated here is the racial superiority and colonialist mindset of the Zionist extremists. Zionism is equivalent to Nazism, both in its concept of racial superiority and its means of enforcing that superiority.

Foinikas said:
Of course it's not going to change. But imagine if Palestinians did have their own country. If you can't,then what is this Palestinian issue all about anyway.
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The issue is to remove the festering sore of European colonialism called the state of Israel.

As always, we have the obligatory addendum that this does not mean killing the people, merely dismantling the state and returning the ruling right to the people who were living there at the end of the colonial era.
 
Developereo said:
Yes, the hardcore Zionists have been eying Eretz Yisrael Hashlema since before Israel was even created. The only thing to be hated here is the racial superiority and colonialist mindset of the Zionist extremists. Zionism is equivalent to Nazism, both in its concept of racial superiority and its means of enforcing that superiority.
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I mentioned Israelites,meaning...you don't think even ancient Jews were like that,right?
 
Foinikas said:
How fast would they be extinct under a modern Islamic Palestine country? You think the Palestinian radicals and their affiliates from around the world,would not start pogroms and violence against them?
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You are beginning to acknowledge you see the conflict under the biased lens of 1 party. Who are you to decide and factor a prediction of the future? Look at what the Jewish radicals have done? More bombs gone off in tiny Gaza than the whole of Dresden Hamburg and Munich in world war 2 yet you want to focus on future Islamic radicals? Why do you always focus on one side and sweep under the carpet the current horror? The genocide - collective punishment and the slaughter of innocent kids?
I am beginning to think you are deliberately trolling on this thread
 
Musings said:
You are beginning to acknowledge you see the conflict under the biased lens of 1 party. Who are you to decide and factor a prediction of the future? Look at what the Jewish radicals have done? More bombs gone off in tiny Gaza than the whole of Dresden Hamburg and Munich in world war 2 yet you want to focus on future Islamic radicals? Why do you always focus on one side and sweep under the carpet the current horror? The genocide - collective punishment and the slaughter of innocent kids?
I am beginning to think you are deliberately trolling on this thread
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That is why I have maintained all along that any effective and enduring solution in the region must take into account both sides, given that neither side can kill or remove the other in their entirety, realistically speaking.
 
Antonius123 said:
The war will not end if each side insist their own strict desire/idealism.
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But there is a clear distinction here between the two sides.

The Palestinians don't hate the Israelis because they are Jews but because they are colonial invaders with an ideology of racial superiority. The Palestinians resistance would be the same if the invaders were Lutherans or Buddhists or anything else.

The Israelis hate the Palestinians because they believe they are in an inferior race which can be displaced because Jewish claims have priority. Defending Zionism is akin to defending Nazism because they are both based on the concept of racial superiority.

Antonius123 said:
What make you think Israel will accept it, while she is the one holding gun?
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Israel will never accept it because they don't have to. They have the military power so why should they compromise? That is why this conflict has no end.
 
Foinikas said:
I mentioned Israelites,meaning...you don't think even ancient Jews were like that,right?
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I don't see the relevance of ancient Jews.

If we are going to try using historical presence as justification, then Israel has no case. The ancient Hebrews were not native to this land; they invaded and displaced the Canaanites. They, in turn, were displaced by various invaders, ultimately the Romans. So why should that brief interlude give them eternal rights to this land?

Secondly, even if we accepted DNA lineage as some sort of justification, DNA analysis shows Lebanese and other groups have more in common with ancient peoples of this land than most current inhabitants of Israel.
 
Developereo said:
But there is a clear distinction here between the two sides.

The Palestinians don't hate the Israelis because they are Jews but because they are colonial invaders with an ideology of racial superiority. The Palestinians resistance would be the same if the invaders were Lutherans or Buddhists or anything else.

The Israelis hate the Palestinians because they believe they are in an inferior race which can be displaced because Jewish claims have priority. Defending Zionism is akin to defending Nazism because they are both based on the concept of racial superiority.



Israel will never accept it because they don't have to. They have the military power so why should they compromise? That is why this conflict has no end.
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Excellent post sir
 
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🇺🇸🇮🇱🇱🇧 US told Lebanon that it will back the Israeli offensive, as frustration with the Gaza ceasefire grows - Middle East Eye



Israeli-Born U.S. Official and Advisor to President Joe Biden, Amos Hochstein reportedly told Senior Lebanese Officials, including Prime Minister Najib Mikati and Speaker of Parliament Nabih Berri, yesterday during a High-Level Meeting in the Capital of Beirut, that Israel is preparing to launch a Limited Invasion of Southern Lebanon with the Goal of Pushing any Hezbollah Forces back across the Litani River.



Hochstein further stated that they expect the Invasion to begin within the next 5-Weeks, and if Hezbollah does not Halt Attacks on Northern Israel and Agree to a Diplomatic Option, than the Israeli Operation will be Supported by the United States and Allies.
 
Mobius said:
They're all fcuking off back to where they came from.....

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