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hussain0216 said:
South Korea was already supplying the Ukrainians, and North Korea has big stocks of and can produce shells at a good rate

Between Iran and Nk and Russias own industry geared towards war , Russia will have sufficient stocks to take on the western alliance

Ukraine's major problem going forward will be manpower not weapon stocks
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Again, I don't understand what's with all the manpower talk.

It's not like Ukraine have a population of Sweden (9 mil) or Estonia (7 mil) they have a population of 45 mil. And they still only have draft, not mobilisation yet, unlike the Russian.

Even if we are talking about 1 to 10 mobilisation rates (which is very low, as it usually between 1 : 7 (US mobilisation during WW2) to 1 : 3 (IDF mobilisation during Yom Kippur) You are talking about 4 to 5 million strong forces there. This is going to take Russia some time to go over them, I mean right now as we speak Ukraine have a 1 mil strong military out of 45 mil population and Russia gain is what? 300sq kilometer a year? At this rate, even without the mobilisation, it will take Russia 35 years to take the rest of Donbas (Which Ukraine still hold 40% of the 26,000 sqkm Donbas. ) Imagine Ukraine went into mobilisation and raise a 5 million strong army.......

I don't know if Russia would have sufficient gear to fight the west (Which have not even send most of their stuff over and still not any progress) again, I hope Russia is going to make something happen this summer and fall, otherwise they are looking at the back end in 25/26.
 
KingQamaR said:
Is that what Al Jazeera is telling you? I have not heard a Russian government official announcing it, so you’re probably doing guessing game. Unbelievable
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Well, you will need to ask Al Jazeera yourself, they made the news. Not me

Or you can still believe in Russia official announcement.

And I like that you said it like you know what actually happening in Russia instead of guessing it yourself. LOL. :D:D
 
Talking about manpower

Russia is projected to have a median age of 45-48 (depends on which publication you quote) by 2040 because of this war

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So I guess, good news for you lot, you probably can fill the age gap for Russia come 2040 when their median work force is 45 years old as Statista predicted. Hope you enjoy Vodka maybe some Babuska :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

That's a good way to wipe out a generation of people.
 
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j_hungary said:
Talking about manpower

Russia is projected to have a median age of 45-48 (depends on which publication you quote) by 2040 because of this war

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So I guess, good news for you lot, you probably can fill the age gap for Russia come 2040 when their median work force is 45 years old as Statista predicted. Hope you enjoy Vodka maybe some Babuska :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

That's a good way to wipe out a generation of people.
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Ukraine have already done extensive conscription. They don't have any more reserves to draw on. Everyone willing went first. Everyone able went next. They are now scraping the bottom of the barrel. They only get 4 weeks of training because of the desperate shortages at the front. The actions speak to the real situation.
 
KingQamaR said:
Ukraine have already done extensive conscription. They don't have any more reserves to draw on. Everyone willing went first. Everyone able went next. They are now scraping the bottom of the barrel. They only get 4 weeks of training because of the desperate shortages at the front. The actions speak to the real situation.
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Conscription and Draft is NOT the same as mobilisation

we have Draft during Vietnam War, which raise a 500k troop in Vietnam, we have mobilisation in WW2, which raised 3 million forces.

Draft is you select a group of people (usually by age, in Russia case, by race) and pressgang those people into service. Mobilisation is basically a draft for EVERYBODY. And if Ukraine really do now fall into the bottom of the barrel and Russia still get shitty progress. I wonder what your excuse of Russia will be??

On the other hand, lol, now you are an expert on how Ukraine training works?? That's strange as I have just been in Ukraine at the beginning of this year, and I don't recall the program is just 4 weeks long.

And dude, you are the one that talk about hubris in the last thread lol :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
The lucky ones get 4 weeks of training, there were reports of people dying within 3 days of conscription.

The average age of conscription in Ukraine is 43. War is a young man's game. Those facts should tell you everything you need to know about the situation.
 
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KingQamaR said:
The lucky ones get 4 weeks of training, there were reports of people dying within 3 days of conscription.

The average age of conscription in Ukraine is 43. War is a young man's game. Those facts should tell you everything you need to know about the situation.
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And I think my eyes would tell me about the situation, again, I was just there for 2 months.

I mean, surely if the things are all like what you said, Russia should have made a bit more progress than this, right? I mean they can't take Vovchansk, which is about 3 miles from the border. They move the grant total of 10 mile west off Avdiivka since Feb. The rest of the line almost unchanged, and there are about 700 towns they will have to move thru before they get to the rest of Donbas. And that is when our congress stuffing up and literally hanging the Ukrainian to dry because Trump want to play powerplay

And you think this is the situation?? I mean if this is, then Russian military is more inept than I thought. I mean, you can deny all you want, but either Ukraine really in this "dired situation" and Russia is so dumb they can't take any advantage off it, or things probably a bit more different than what you read in the pro-Russian channel?
 
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Vovchansk is rapidly turning into a
Stalingrad. The sad truth is that in this battle of attrition Ukraine cannot hope to best Russia as they quite simply don't have the numbers no matter how seasoned they are.
 
KingQamaR said:
Vovchansk is rapidly turning into a
Stalingrad. The sad truth is that in this battle of attrition Ukraine cannot hope to best Russia as they quite simply don't have the numbers no matter how seasoned they are.
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There’s nothing to suggest Russia will gain any significant territory from here. Maybe a km here, a km there….but that’s about it with Western aid flowing in large quantities.

Russia missed its opportunity for a breakthrough in winter and spring when no aid was arriving. Now we’re just seeing huge amounts of Russian manpower and equipment lost. Over 16,500 equipment losses and counting with no end in sight. We’ll probably cross 20,000 before the end of the year. An unfathomable number in February 2022
 
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