Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Meengla
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Israel is in a lot of trouble now. It will never be able to recover from this permanent war and millions in the region are hell bent on its destruction now.
Unless Iran gets swayed by the US with a deal of the century, I personally don’t see Israel making it. A war without an end has been imposed upon Israel.
For the buffoons who might still be pondering on why the Israelis always blamed Iran for their troubles……we all hope now you understand what Irans done here……
That's correct!
Here is a relevant post--actually some Comments by users on an Israeli website. Apparently one is pro Palestine and the other is pro Israel. Shows the Iranian designs. @UKBengali
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A new era of relations: Syria and Turkey discuss normalization | The Jerusalem Post
It is plausible that Turkey-Syria reconciliation could also come at the expense of Israel, because it could be seen as a way for Iran to use this to unite more arenas against Israel.
www.jpost.com
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Finally you guys are actually beginning to tell the truth and not war time propaganda, the sticking point in negotiations is two fold, they Syrians want Turkish support to remove the rebels and the US bases and the Turks want Kurdish autonomy off the table, Syrian troops are along side the SDF across the Turkish border, when the Syrians redeploy to Idlib they want a Turkish attack not only to end the SDF but force the removal of American bases, the maddest part is the Turks argue wait for trump. All as the Iranians and Iraqi watch with approval. The coming changes to the region from this war will be mind blowing, Including seeing Turkish, Iranian and Saudi's all supporting the same militias fighting Zionists. What do you think will happen to all those Turkish trained Arabs and Turkmen who stopped fighting the SAA and but kept there guns or HTS? The Saudi's after this round if rumours are true are prepared to fund the Houthis for a guarantee that the Americans wouldn't give which is why not a single bomb has dropped in the GCC or by them since.
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This would be unbelieveable except for the fact that the Arab League has recently dropped Hezbollah from its terrorist list. Iran/Persia has been able to distract the Arabs from looking at their control over Arab Iraq, Arab Syria, Arab Lebanon, Arab Yemen and instead to focus on little tiny Israel as falsely being the biggest swallower of Arab lands. Looks like the goal of getting the "Rafidah out of Shams" no longer seems to apply
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You still don't get it, the Iranian argument is not Arab vs Israeli its not even an Arab, Iranian and Turk alliance its Islamic unity and antinationalistic, it want the people in Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, across the gulf, north Africa and central Asia to slowly unite and disregard individual interests over collective goals such as destroying the crusader state Israel and breaking the borders between across Muslim land, The Turkish government has supported this since 2010 and thanks to Iraq and China the Saudi's are now onside and have switched from netanyahoo accords to sanctions and supporting the blockade to raise prices. What the Iranians Nassar could not have dreamed of, while he needed Russian weapons to have a chance against the west, the Russians need Iranian weapons while they set up the board against the west, while you see rag tag militias here and there they see a grand army training, building and studying it's enemy, the fact you misunderstood an attack with 2 hours notice that was testing your defences and cost less than million dollars to launch and over a billion to defend should make you guys completely reassess.
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Falcon29
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This makes more sense (his role). Otherwise it would be reckless to be in Syria right now. Hezbollah should be on high alert and battle formation, and take Israel's threats seriously. Even if they're focused on Gaza at the time being.
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What are fire belts?
Fire belts are a strategy that targets narrow areas with a series of intense and violent raids using air force.
I would like to share documents related to a belt of fire in Khan Yunis dating back to June 2021. Yes, the year 2021, I made no mistake. Aggression, wars, massacres and destruction did not begin on October 7, 2023.
Fire belts are a strategy that targets narrow areas with a series of intense and violent raids using air force.
I would like to share documents related to a belt of fire in Khan Yunis dating back to June 2021. Yes, the year 2021, I made no mistake. Aggression, wars, massacres and destruction did not begin on October 7, 2023.
Falcon29
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Israel is moving towards assassination policy to pressure Hezbollah into a 'agreement'. Still not serious enough to indicate preparation for attack on Lebanon. It will be obvious if they are going to launch a campaign in Lebanon.
Falcon29
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For Hamas to survive 10 months of brutal war waged on Gaza by multiple parties, while being besieged and having no external supply lines or support, tells us one thing:
Hamas has the popular support of the people of Gaza. It is not being saved by anyone. It's impossible to survive these conditions unless you have the entire support of your people. And to an extent, popular support of the people of the region.
That's what's angering Israel, the US administration, certain Arab states, and other Hamas haters. That they're now resorting to a lame and pathetic character assassination of Hamas on X, which is gaining no traction whatsoever. And any engagement are by people defending Hamas.
Hamas has the popular support of the people of Gaza. It is not being saved by anyone. It's impossible to survive these conditions unless you have the entire support of your people. And to an extent, popular support of the people of the region.
That's what's angering Israel, the US administration, certain Arab states, and other Hamas haters. That they're now resorting to a lame and pathetic character assassination of Hamas on X, which is gaining no traction whatsoever. And any engagement are by people defending Hamas.
Davey Crockett
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If anyone is wondering when the Zionists will stop, look at the patches on their military uniform.
They are openly admitting what their goal is - Greater Israel.
They cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be bargained with.
And when Trump gets into office, the resistance will face total annihilation. I posted Trump's statements on this matter a week or two ago.
The window is closing on the resistance's chance to drive the Zionists out.
hussain0216
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Hamas resistance has been legendary
Hamas and the Palestinians did their part, it was the Arab world and wider Muslim world that failed
But this won't end well for the Jews and much has been revealed that can't be hidden now
Shadihassan28
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IDF investigating after Palestinians report at least 29 killed in Gaza airstrike
Palestinians Report at Least 29 Killed, Dozens Wounded in Strike on School Compound Near Gaza's Khan Yunis MDA Medical Services: Two Killed From Direct Rocket Hit to Vehicles in Northern Israel's Golan Area IDF Says It Intercepted Two Drones Which Crossed Into Israel From Lebanon Syrian Army...
Davey Crockett
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Trump's statements on the Israel/Palestinian conflict.Where Trump and Biden stand on Israel and Gaza
June 25, 2024 at 3:55 pm
By
MAGGIE ASTOR
The New York Times
War in Gaza
Trump
After Hamas’ attack, Trump vowed to “fully support” Israel. He was also initially critical of Netanyahu and Israeli intelligence, calling them unprepared — though he quickly backtracked from those remarks and said he stood with Netanyahu, with whom he had been closely allied as president.
In March, he urged Israel to “finish up” the war quickly because it was losing support, but he also expressed his continued support of the country’s invasion and bombardment of Gaza. In an interview with a conservative Israeli news outlet, he said that he “would act very much the same way” and that “you would have to be crazy not to.”
He suggested that Israel had hurt its cause, in terms of international public opinion, by releasing images of the damage in Gaza. “These photos and shots — I mean, moving shots of bombs being dropped into buildings in Gaza, and I said, ‘Oh, that’s a terrible portrait,’” he said. Of releasing such footage, he added, “Go and do what you have to do, but you don’t do that.”
He reiterated that view to Time magazine in April, saying, “I think that Israel has done one thing very badly: public relations.”
Two-state solution
Trump
As president, Trump proposed a peace plan that he called a blueprint for a two-state solution, but Palestinians did not see it that way.
The plan, which was never adopted, strongly favored Israeli priorities. It was developed without substantive Palestinian input and would not have created a fully autonomous Palestinian state. It called for making Jerusalem the unified capital of Israel, relegating the Palestinian capital to the outskirts of the city and letting Israel keep its West Bank settlements and control of the Jordan Valley.
More recently, Trump told Time magazine: “There was a time when I thought two-state could work. Now I think two-state is going to be very, very tough.”
U.S. campus protests
Trump
Trump praised police crackdowns on pro-Palestinian protests, calling the protesters “raging lunatics and Hamas sympathizers” and saying it had been “a beautiful thing to watch” the police break up a student occupation of a building at Columbia University.
“To every college president, I say remove the encampments immediately,” he said in early May. “Vanquish the radicals, and take back our campuses for all of the normal students.”
Antisemitism
Trump
Trump has described criticism of Israel as antisemitism, and his administration took steps to designate campaigns to boycott Israel as such. He has said that if elected again, he would bar immigrants who “want to abolish the state of Israel” from entering the United States.
He issued an executive order in 2019 that effectively defined Judaism as a race or nationality, in addition to a religion, in order to apply protections under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.
But he has also repeatedly made antisemitic remarks and associated with antisemites. In 2017, he said there were “fine people on both sides” of a white supremacist and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
And he has repeatedly described Jews who voted for Democrats as “disloyal” or self-hating, language that critics say invokes an antisemitic trope about Jews having a “dual loyalty,” with a greater devotion to Israel than to their own countries.
In 2022, he lamented that “our wonderful evangelicals” appreciated his support for Israel more than American Jews did. And in 2023, he shared an image saying that “liberal Jews” had “voted to destroy America & Israel.”
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Trump
As president, Trump strongly supported Netanyahu’s government and gave it a number of political gifts, including support for hard-line Israeli policies that previous U.S. administrations had rejected.
But ever since Trump lost the 2020 election, he has been less friendly toward Netanyahu — seemingly for a personal reason: Netanyahu congratulated Biden on his victory. After the Hamas-led attack on Israel, Trump criticized Netanyahu as having been unprepared. He quickly backtracked on those remarks.
Where Joe Biden and Donald Trump Stand on the Issues (Published 2024)
Here’s what President Biden and former President Donald J. Trump have done and want to do on abortion, democracy, the economy, immigration, Israel and Gaza, and Social Security and Medicare.www.nytimes.com
Davey Crockett
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There is little doubt Trump will be worse on the Palestinians than Biden.We all need to understand once Trump is back in office, it will only get worse for the resistance.
A news article from yesterday.
TUESDAY, JULY 2, 2024
Former US envoy Friedman: Trump doesn’t care about Netanyahu’s call to Biden anymore
2 Jul 2024, 5:16 pm
US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman speaks during the Kohelet Forum Conference at the Begin Heritage Center, in Jerusalem, on January 8, 2020.
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Former US ambassador to Israel David Friedman says he does not see any chance Donald Trump will withhold military aid to Israel should he win back the presidency, and that his relationship with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will likely be patched up.
“I think he’ll want to understand better why Israel hasn’t won by November,” Trump’s envoy to Israel tells Channel 12 news. “His view has been to give Israel what it needs to win.”
"The relationship is bigger than two people,” Friedman adds, and Trump is “committed to an unprecedented [sic] strong relationship between Israel and the United States.”
Former US envoy Friedman: Trump doesn’t care about Netanyahu’s call to Biden anymore
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