Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards

Yeah I expect my Government to.Secure ,protect and safeguard Indian Interests
Of course that is your right and any govt should look out for their nation’s interest. However I fail to understand how making alliances with one political party in a neighbouring country can meet those interests. It is in indias interest that Bangladesh have a non corrupt govt. It is in indias interest to settle borders with China Pakistan Nepal amicably. It is in indias interest to promote good communal relations across South Asia. Instead the BJP govt promotes anti Muslim dog whistles and attacks that create tension and communal disharmony in other neighbouring countries.
 
@Joe Shearer

If any new Government tries such things again we will have to Respond with force

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Really?

What force?

Other than Indian farmers, and Indian citizens in Manipur, where has this administration used force, without being laughed at by the whole world for its efforts at deception?
 
If i was Indian policy maker. I would copy Chinas foreign policy. Concentrate on strong defence and trade, and have non-interference as backbone of foreign policy.
জব্বর।
ততটা বুদ্ধি থাকলে আজকে এই ফাঁদে দেশ পড়তো না।

Jabbar
If we had that much intelligence, the country would not have fallen into this trap today.
 
She was in power with the support of her Army

And we deal with the Governments in power , not the opposition

Should Mr Jaishankar have visited BNP leaders in Jail

In my view The only time an Indian PM meets A foreign country's Opposition leaders is When a Bi Partisan US Congress Delegation calls on Him

Only US Congress Has this practice in this world
Ask any of the Bangladeshis on this thread, instead of dislocating your brain trying to explain things by your own warped fanboy logic. Any one.
 
I agree and we need leaders who are loyal to Bangladesh and our interests not those of India, Pakistan, US, China etc Even us bangladeshis of whatever religion some Muslims are funded by Saudi Arabia and agents of Saudi. Some Hindus are members of bjp and agents of India. Some Christians who are supported by western NGOs. We need Bangladeshis (Muslims, Hindus, christuans, buddhists) to be loyal to our motherland not somewhere else.
অমন দেশভক্ত পাইলে এই দিকে দু-একটা পাঠাইয়া দেন্।

If you find such patriots, send one or two in this direction.
 
I know this but that time is yet to come right now USA needs India as another ally against China..... this plan of breaking India into multiple states will only materialize if a big if China falls a Soviet Union way..... only after that they will come for India and this will take decades and decades to happen..... till then why not just rip USA apart with the benefits we get for giving bases and become an obedient ally like UK, Israel, Japan South Korea??
South Korea and Japan don't have nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, nor do they aspire to be permanent members of the UNSC like India does. a country like India, with such a huge military, doesn't need USA to counter China.
 
To be frank, the 2 fronts on East & West was a baggage since 1947. North is however, much stable. Any idea of India-China war is just media hype without logic. Indian ministers are having regular meetings with Chinese counterparts which would never be the case if there was hostility. Indian govt has not uttered a single word against China and everything is coming from some presstitutes.

Indian CDS had clearly mentioned 2.5 front & China was not one of the fronts. It was only your imaginations & media hypes that showed China as the 2nd front, not Indian govt.
This is clearly a certifiable lunatic.
 
She was not an Indian stooge, but the Bangladeshi believed that she was, because of the focussed attention paid to her, and to the wide-spread rumours - that may or may not have been true - of Indian spooks having helped her to twist the elections in her own favour.
Wrong perception due to Jamatis long held hate for Mujibur and calling him as Indian agent. So, that was carried forward to his daughter Hasina. It is not Indian foreign policy failure.

Why would anyone take these as signs that the administration was neutral, rather than as signs that the administration had been solidly backed by Indian support, and was in desperation flailing around for alternative support?

That is what the popular belief was. Check with the Bangladeshis, instead of appealing to yourself and getting a favourable opinion.
The most important aspect of being a stooge is having military dependency. It is a clear cut sign. As I said before, many were just blinded by their hate & false belief that Mujibur was Indian agent and they would never accept any other version.

I am not talking about perception but only countering your argument that it was Indian foreign policy failure to invest on one party. I am just showing evidence that it was not Indian foreign policy to keep Hasina in power. Moreover, you seem to allude to BJP govt's failure whereas Hasina was brought into power in 2008 when BJP was not in power.

What spells incompetence and ineptitude to you?
The ability to come to arrangements that benefit both, or the willingness to offer unilateral support without getting anything substantial in return, as well as earning a foul reputation?
India was giving huge loans, free trade on cotton, vegetable shipments to BD and allowing duty free imports of textile and other goods from BD. India could instead channel the funds into Indian textile and industries by refusing to export raw cotton & forcing export of cotton yarn (yarn is compact & needs less transport cost while also adding value & generating jobs). BD has no other suppliers who can supply cheaper than India even with restrictions and hence India would lose nothing but even could replace Bangladeshi textile in international trade.
Asking for return favour by connecting railways is not really sign of incompetence. This would also develop BD railways as India would be funding the laying of tracks which can be used for internal transportation too. The only reason to oppose it is political/military.
Apparently, it was the BDR, a rogue organisation that attacked the Army and the politicians, who were responsible for the firing.
That is a poor argument. Why was BDR not fired? Why was salary not withheld and supplies cut off? Was any effort made regarding that? These kind of lame excuses don't work on me. It was simply BD intelligence/army doing that and giving excuses
In what way did relative Indian power grow, vis-a-vis Bangladesh?
Mouthing self-important slogans is a common habit of bhakts, and impresses nobody but themselves.
Has Indian military technology remained same as it was in 2008? Or has India obtained new technology like BVRAAM, Su30 manufacturing, Akash SAM, QRSAM, Brahmos indigenisation, ATGMs, new indigenous helicopters, new indigenous artillery etc? What technology has BD developed since 2008? BD may have imported some ships & defence vehicles but has nothing indigenous to rely on in case of skirmishes. If India has improved in defence technology while BD has remained stagnant, isn't it common sense to say India improved in strength vis-a-vis Bangladesh?
 
Definitely certifiable, definitely a lunatic.
Do you have a better argument as to how Manipur & Myanmar insurgents got arms from? Clearly China is not supplying them as the same insurgents have attacked Chinese assets too. There are only 4 countries involved who have access to these insurgents- India, China, Myanmar & BD. Everyone except BD have been attacked by these insurgents.

The only reason anyone would refuse to accept BD's hand in it is if they are jamatis or affiliated fanatics
 
I hope you know that the first thing China did after its independence was enter the Korean war. So much for non-interference! Every decent country first secures the borders & contains foreign sabotage. Other things only follow afterwards.

Not comparable.

In Indian immidiate beighborhood there is no country thats occupied by a enemy superpower.

China would not enter the Korean war if United States had not set boots on the ground in Korea.
 
I can't wait for @Nilgiri to join us tonight! 😂

That dude had the biggest transformation of all PDFers.

In the old forum that guy used to troll all the time on BD forum. Nowdays he sounds like a monk.

What happened. Met a beautiful lady?
 
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Wrong perception due to Jamatis long held hate for Mujibur and calling him as Indian agent. So, that was carried forward to his daughter Hasina. It is not Indian foreign policy failure.
Again, ask the Bangladeshis.

Ask why, after seeking temporary refuge in India, it was felt necessary for the chief spook to meet her at the air force base. What does that look like to you, other than incompetent ineptitude?

The most important aspect of being a stooge is having military dependency. It is a clear cut sign. As I said before, many were just blinded by their hate & false belief that Mujibur was Indian agent and they would never accept any other version.
Also finance, and moral support. SHW felt that she could call on India to provide military support, and there are large numbers of Bangladeshis who believe that this was available, if the BA had only consented.

If this view of Mujib's role prevailed in B'desh, what did the Indian Foreign Minister do about it?

Moreover, you seem to allude to BJP govt's failure whereas Hasina was brought into power in 2008 when BJP was not in power.
Your ignorance is showing.

Even SHW's bitterest opponents do not say that she cooked every election result, only the recent ones.

Do your homework, and ask the Bangladeshis.

India was giving huge loans, free trade on cotton, vegetable shipments to BD and allowing duty free imports of textile and other goods from BD. India could instead channel the funds into Indian textile and industries by refusing to export raw cotton & forcing export of cotton yarn (yarn is compact & needs less transport cost while also adding value & generating jobs). BD has no other suppliers who can supply cheaper than India even with restrictions and hence India would lose nothing but even could replace Bangladeshi textile in international trade.
Sure, from this analysis, it immediately becomes clear why we have dunderheads in the External Affairs Ministry. Is there any doubt that our good friends from the north would step in, meet all the requirements mentioned above, and take permission to position a division at the Siliguri Gap?

Asking for return favour by connecting railways is not really sign of incompetence. This would also develop BD railways as India would be funding the laying of tracks which can be used for internal transportation too. The only reason to oppose it is political/military.
You said so, not I. The incompetence and the ineptitude did not lie at the transactional level, but at a higher, strategic and geo-political level, where we thought we could browbeat Bangladesh, or bribe her, or seduce her and get our objectives. It doesn't work that way.

That is a poor argument. Why was BDR not fired? Why was salary not withheld and supplies cut off? Was any effort made regarding that? These kind of lame excuses don't work on me. It was simply BD intelligence/army doing that and giving excuses
Are you completely ignorant?

Look up the incidents relating to the BDR, and assess the tight-rope that both the Army and the government were walking, with relation to the BDR.

Where do people like you float up and pass judgement on every single issue about which you know nothing? Or less than nothing?

Has Indian military technology remained same as it was in 2008? Or has India obtained new technology like BVRAAM, Su30 manufacturing, Akash SAM, QRSAM, Brahmos indigenisation, ATGMs, new indigenous helicopters, new indigenous artillery etc?

How, O Manstein Reborn, would these have helped against Bangladesh? Do you even know what the topography is, and what sort of battles would be fought?
 

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