Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards

[Circadian Rhythm]

@Joe Shearer

If any new Government tries such things again we will have to Respond with force

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[samejjangir]

Yeah, fight on three fronts. Would makes total sense for India. Lol.

To be frank, the 2 fronts on East & West was a baggage since 1947. North is however, much stable. Any idea of India-China war is just media hype without logic. Indian ministers are having regular meetings with Chinese counterparts which would never be the case if there was hostility. Indian govt has not uttered a single word against China and everything is coming from some presstitutes.

Indian CDS had clearly mentioned 2.5 front & China was not one of the fronts. It was only your imaginations & media hypes that showed China as the 2nd front, not Indian govt.

 

[samejjangir]

@Joe Shearer

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Considering that it is Bangladesh, force is the best option. Propping up parties serve no purpose as regardless of who is in power, it is always the army & intelligence agencies that call the shot. Recent Manipur violence was also likely due to BD intelligence supplying the insurgents despite Hasina being PM. That was likely the reason why India didn't try to keep Hasina in power - it was likely seen that it is better to use force and have our way rather than appease

 

[Dalit]

This clearly shows that it was the army which was in charge while she was just a puppet face. Even the protests look manufactured as some powers asked HC to randomly reimpose the reservation and then using it as trigger, there were immediate rallies against the government (not the court!). Definitely BD army was involved in Hasina's ouster

Hindutva claim that Pakistani ISI was involved.

 

[Dalit]

@Joe Shearer

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Yep. Blame everyone. Pakistan, ISI, China, CIA and Timbuktu.

Force against who?

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Yeah, fight on three fronts. Would makes total sense for India. Lol.

We can very easily Sort them
Out

We have a battle hardened forces

Right now Only BSF is deployed on Bangladesh border

We can increase the Size of our forces and deploy them.

 

[samejjangir]

Hindutva claim that Pakistani ISI was involved.

Army involvement means involvement of foreign powers to back those generals too. So, foreign agencies were definitely involved. Going by recent words of Hasina, USA was likely involved & may have used ISI agents too as part of a collaboration

 

[Alter_Ego]

In simple terms, by associating Indian policy with one person and one entity, as a result of which, as you can see from this foru

In simple terms, by associating Indian policy with one person and one entity, as a result of which, as you can see from this forum alone, without any need to go further, India is seen as the dark power behind the Awami League.

There are now Instagram videos going around purporting to be BDR jawans speaking Hindi, with all that it implies. However bizarre this is, it is troubling that we are associated with the authority that failed and was driven out.

The failure of Indian foreign policy didn't happen today, and there is no question of declaring war, or even of military intervention of any kind. The failure happened over the years, as we built up one party to the exclusion of all others, and left ourselves high and dry when there was an upheaval.

If i was Indian policy maker. I would copy Chinas foreign policy. Concentrate on strong defence and trade, and have non-interference as backbone of foreign policy.

 

[Pingle]

USA wont get millitary base in India or Sri Lanka. Chittagong sits right across Chinas trade route through Myanmar and the Kyaukphyu naval base.

I have already explained with map why it's not feasible for USA to have a base in Chittagong..... they will go another 1000s of miles from Diego Garcia which is not a wise choice when you have something like PLAN in the same BoB.....

 

[samejjangir]

If i was Indian policy maker. I would copy Chinas foreign policy. Concentrate on strong defence and trade, and have non-interference as backbone of foreign policy.

I hope you know that the first thing China did after its independence was enter the Korean war. So much for non-interference! Every decent country first secures the borders & contains foreign sabotage. Other things only follow afterwards.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

If i was Indian policy maker. I would copy Chinas foreign policy. Concentrate on strong defence and trade and have non-interference as backbone of foreign policy.

You cannot Shake Hands with
A Clenched Fist -INDIRA GANDHI

This.was said by India's former PM

 

[bengalcdn]

@Joe Shearer

If any new Government tries such things again we will have to Respond with force

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You should stop listening to this sushant sareen idiot and other idiots like Arnob chutswami, gobar arya, mad dog bakshi and think rationally

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

You should stop listening to this sushant sareen idiot and other idiots like Arnob chutswami, gobar arya, mad dog bakshi and think rationally

Yeah I expect my Government to.Secure ,protect and safeguard Indian Interests

 

[Pingle]

US doesn't want to protect India; they aim to break India into multiple small countries to ensure it never challenges their global hegemony. The rise of India and China has been described as a double trouble for USA.

I know this but that time is yet to come right now USA needs India as another ally against China..... this plan of breaking India into multiple states will only materialize if a big if China falls a Soviet Union way..... only after that they will come for India and this will take decades and decades to happen..... till then why not just rip USA apart with the benefits we get for giving bases and become an obedient ally like UK, Israel, Japan South Korea??

 

[Joe Shearer]

If Hasina was Indian stooge, why did BD not buy Indian ships instead of Chinese?

She was not an Indian stooge, but the Bangladeshi believed that she was, because of the focussed attention paid to her, and to the wide-spread rumours - that may or may not have been true - of Indian spooks having helped her to twist the elections in her own favour.

why did BD not buy Indian ships instead of Chinese?

Why would anyone take these as signs that the administration was neutral, rather than as signs that the administration had been solidly backed by Indian support, and was in desperation flailing around for alternative support?

That is what the popular belief was. Check with the Bangladeshis, instead of appealing to yourself and getting a favourable opinion.

Why BD refused railway link? Can you name any one benefit India got out of this built up party?

What spells incompetence and ineptitude to you?
The ability to come to arrangements that benefit both, or the willingness to offer unilateral support without getting anything substantial in return, as well as earning a foul reputation?

The only benefit that can even be remotely claimed is the stopping of firing by BD army at borders.

Apparently, it was the BDR, a rogue organisation that attacked the Army and the politicians, who were responsible for the firing.

But that is not really a favour as India has grown much stronger and is capable of far more deadly force which means BD has to tone down regardless of who is in power.

In what way did relative Indian power grow, vis-a-vis Bangladesh?
Mouthing self-important slogans is a common habit of bhakts, and impresses nobody but themselves.

Here is a genuine military opinion, that might, in some eyes, seem more credible than your masterly analysis of why Indian foreign policy was not a farce, and that whatever is happening is an act of God.

Adm. Arun Prakash

@arunp2810
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11h
By placing blind faith in Sheikh Hasina, & ignoring her autocratic mis-governance, India was caught on wrong foot by popular upheaval. While Pak/China/CIA can be blamed, did we play our cards right by blindly backing AL & ignoring BNP? Wither “neighbourhood first” policy now?