Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards

If India desires good relations with Bangladesh, they should do us a favor and return Khuni Mafroor Hasina and her sister to Bangladesh. She must go on trial and face charges of crimes against humanity. That would be a good start.


Bangladesh SC Bar President urges India to arrest and return Sheikh Hasina, Rehana​


Published On: August 7, 2024 02:00 PM NPT By: Agencies
Bangladesh SC Bar President urges India to arrest and return Sheikh Hasina, Rehana




DHAKA, Aug 7: As the situation in Bangladesh deteriorates following Sheikh Hasina's resignation, the Supreme Court Bar Association (SCBA) President, AM Mahbub Uddin Khokon, has urged India to arrest the former Prime Minister and her sister, Sheikh Rehana, and return them to Bangladesh, as reported by Dhaka Tribune.

Given the history I doubt India will ever return her
 
That dude had the biggest transformation of all PDFers.

In the old forum that guy used to troll all the time on BD forum. Nowdays he sounds like a monk.

What happened. Met a beautiful lady?

devils advocate stuff, also wounded lion swiping and lot of others getting in way of the swatting, and they judge you from the last swat rather than what lies behind truly.

Fora is strange place, you form a good friendship in real life regading a person from another country, and you try mold rest of "online" countrymen to that idyll.... but its fools errand. Online shouldn't matter, it should be ignored as much as possible as it is its own weird sounding board in end. Focus on quality only etc. Easier said than done.....but some stick to easy for their full tenure. Thankfully I didnt.
 
Aik dum Iraq waala haal hae ga!.......

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Wow who are these thugs ? Most likely BNP/Jamaat thugs who had nothing better to do then storm the consulate and damage their own country property. I can understand taking down hasina photo, but why take down sheikh mujibs photo? He was the founder of modern Bangladesh, he does deserve that much respect. Let me guess these guys want zia ur Rahman, tareque zia n Khaleda zia photos instead, and if they come to power they will build statues of zia and Khaleda. I hope dr Yunus bans these two parties AL and BNP for good.
 
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Wow who are these thugs ? Most likely BNP/Jamaat thugs who had nothing better to do then storm the consulate and damage their own country property. I can understand taking down hasina photo, but why take down sheikh mujibs photo? He was the founder of modern Bangladesh, he does deserve that much respect. Let me guess these guys want zia ur Rahman, tareque zia n Khaleda zia photos instead.
Bro, sounds like a velvet hand color revolution. Full on!

Total chaos.
 
BD was once East pakistan and was Indian enemy. Except for brief period after BD was liberated till Mujeeb's death, India was having a better relation. Every other time, BD has always been hostile. It has nothing to do with Indian foreign policy or relying on 1 man.

All these media hype and perceptions are just nonsense without any ground level action. If Hasina was Indian stooge, why did BD not buy Indian ships instead of Chinese? Why BD refused railway link? Can you name any one benefit India got out of this built up party? The only benefit that can even be remotely claimed is the stopping of firing by BD army at borders. But that is not really a favour as India has grown much stronger and is capable of far more deadly force which means BD has to tone down regardless of who is in power.

Do you have any Bangladeshi friends?

If you don't you dont have the other side of the picture.

This is all one sided cringe.
 
If i was Indian policy maker. I would copy Chinas foreign policy. Concentrate on strong defence and trade, and have non-interference as backbone of foreign policy.

"Non-interference" as backbone is just talk, and cheap talk.

Actions prove otherwise, especially in Burma when it comes to China.

Big powers can never resist from it....all that matters is can we get away with it and is it worth it.
 
Bro, sounds like a velvet hand color revolution. Full on!

Total chaos.
Bro us Bangladeshis and Pakistanis have misfortune of having AL and BNP and on the other hand PPP and Noon league. It’s like a choice of dog 💩and cow 💩. PTi and Imran khan tried but they were suppressed for now. Hopefully that doesn’t happen in BD
 
I can't wait for @Nilgiri to join us tonight! 😂

I see bhakt clowns basically taking on Joe...not bothering to understand Joe one bit....what upsets Joe regd "crypto-jamati" and his view on BD politics, they could really learn from a lot if they truly cared.

But they dont truly care, as they dont have true principles and so they learn nothing and remain ignorant and awful....and this creates the zero-sum nasties and inertias with their equivalents on other side of border.

Having true principle on the issue, means it would need consistent application on their own.....and they know quite intrinsically what that would mean for the time/emotion they've invested in chesty et al.

That word salad one of them gave me elsewhere topping it off with "politics is what matters the most"....really that sums them up in end.

Rest is kind of just static to me. Bengalcdn and couple bongs have made some nice posts though.....if bongs have lot more folks like bengalcdn, yourself and folks like you able to get together under Yunus et al bandwagon for long term....BD has a great future ahead.

I told you already BAL and BNP put em both in scrap heap, start again with a new party and make it big tent and technocratic and moderate as possible. That addresses the stability thing best way you can with cards you have....rather than polarized stability that got you this BAL vs BNP charade that got the ladies egos SHW extra potent defense mechanism from the ego she harnessed directly from role her dad played during creation of BD itself.....and of course huge fear (I have empathy with her for) regd what happened to her family wiped out as it was like that. These stories matter for character, but you realise you (the people) got to do better with politics....to empathise with the character but keep the character away from politics as far as can be....politics is damaged enough in its very fibre a long time in human history.
 
How would Indian soldiers be in Bangladesh wearing Bangladeshi uniforms and helping to crush the uprising? Doubt its true.
BD Army HQ's top-most floor was allocated to RAW. Only a handful of BD officers were allowed to go there. It's from the officers inside the BD army. No promotions beyond 1-star could happen without RAW's approval. It was a situation like hell. No wonder the reaction is also like hell.....

Every aspect of BD's policy making and execution was controlled by Bharat via her agents at key positions, thanks to the Hasina's autocracy....

RAW agents used to be present inside the interrogation cells of the DGFI (ISI equivalent).....

The Muslims in BD hate Bharat 10x more than the Paks do......

One good thing about Prof Yunus, the coming head of the interim government, is he's directly connected to the Western Establishment. He understands their mindset. He needs no help from Bharat to connect to them......

In this video clip a famous BD analyst is asking the Bharati leadership to try to understand why the BD folks dislike them so much. They should stop interfering in BD's internal matters. If BD has 4K km of border with them they have also 4k Km of border with BD.....

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But the bigger picture is, India can't attack BD and hold it. Their entire east will be destabilized, and may see a new independent state comprising the old map of Bengal. The Indian state will be under serious pressure and may unravel. War is costly, India is not Russia or the US or even China.

Why even hold Bangladesh and be responsible for 170 million folks ?? just seize a few strategic areas and make the rest a mega-Gaza strip. It won't be stable
 
@Afif @Al-Zakir and other Bengali members
Mr. Yunus is 84 - and I am no ageist but biology is biology and its weaponized in the US elections as well, how effective might he be considering that and the dire situation right now?

I was hoping for long life for him.

LKY lived till 91, pretty good genetics and to me Yunus has not aged that much.

I bring up LKY because I know Singapore pretty intimately, and LKY was given a special emeritus/mentorship role after he left PM role....i.e senior minister and then minister mentor....basically 20 years of post PM political stewardship.

If BD can have Yunus is relatively good shape (he is older than Biden but he has very good mental faculty still listening to him, basically age affects different folks differently).....for say at least 5 years, I think a good organisation can form under him for future BD politics after he is gone.....however that later splits if need be (but all on same principled page for the long term etc).

Vestiges of BAL, BNP will be there (whatever the big tent new start party doesnt absorb)....and of course a few other more fringe parties/allies to them in this scenario.

Anyway thats why I hope Mr. Yunus lives as long as possible and has as much influence as possible.

Ofc ideally BD would have had him in power or in opposition challenging for last 15+ years....to make best use of his sweetspot years as possible, but that ship sailed sadly.
 
Interesting Read …..



US Desperate For Military Base In Bangladesh; Conspires To Carve New State From B’Desh & Myanmar*

Several Western nations, including the United States and Britain, are conspiring to create a Christian state, taking parts of Bangladesh, Myanmar, and even India.

With this notorious agenda, they have secretly joined hands with the Kuki-Chin National Front (KNF) and several regional insurgency groups, including Paresh Baruah, the kingpin of the United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA).

Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina disclosed this when she told leaders of the 14-party alliance that a plot is on to carve out “a Christian state like East Timor,” taking parts from Bangladesh and Myanmar. She refrained from mentioning the name of India.

She also said a white man offered her a hassle-free reelection in the 7 January polls provided she allowed a foreign country to establish an air base in Bangladesh territory. Here again, the Bangladesh Prime Minister did not name the nationality of that “white man.”
Sheik Hasina mentioned that business activities have been going through the Bay and the Indian Ocean since ancient times. “Many have their eyes on this place. There is no controversy here, no conflict. I won’t let that happen. This is also one of my crimes [in their eyes]”, she said.

About the proposal for the airbase, the premier said, “The offer came from a white man. It may appear that it is aimed at only one country, but it is not. I know where else they intend to go. There will be more trouble. But don’t worry about it. “If I allowed a certain country to build an airbase in Bangladesh, then I would have had no problem.”

Although the Prime Minister did not mention the name of the country that wants to establish an airbase in Bangladesh, it is well-assumed that the name of that country is the US. For many years, Washington has been eyeing St. Martin Island, a small island (area only 3 km2) in the northeastern part of the Bay of Bengal, about 9 km south of the tip of the Cox’s Bazar-Teknaf peninsula, forming the southernmost part of the country.

Earlier, in June 2023, there was a rumor in Dhaka stating Washington was demanding St. Martin Island in exchange for the favor of the ruling Awami League government. Later, during a press conference, Matthew Miller, spokesperson for the US Department of State, asserted that the United States has never engaged in any discussions regarding taking control of St Martin’s Island or has any intention to do so.

During a parliamentary discussion on June 14, 2023, Rashed Khan Menon, president of the Workers Party of Bangladesh, alleged that the United States is after Saint Martin’s Island and that the new US visa policy is part of a strategy for “regime change.”

He said, “The US wants Saint Martin’s Island, and they want Bangladesh in the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (Quad). They are doing everything to destabilize the current government”.

On June 19, 2023, Jatiya Samajtantrik Dal President Hasanul Haque Inu expressed his concerns, questioning whether the US is meddling in Bangladesh’s affairs for the sake of democracy or for control of Saint Martin’s Island.

Inu said, “It’s time for us to think about the reason for America’s over-enthusiasm. Is it Democracy or Saint Martin’s Island? The United States has suddenly become very enthusiastic about Bangladesh. They actually want to make Bangladesh a playground to ‘dominate’ India”.

In 2003, then-US Ambassador Mary Ann Peters ruled out media speculation that Washington was desperate to lease a military base from Dhaka to station its forces somewhere between the Far and Middle East(s).

“The United States has no plans, no requirement, and no desire for a military base on St. Martin’s Island, Chittagong, or anywhere else in Bangladesh,” she said on July 2, 2003, while addressing a seminar titled ‘Security of South Asia: A US Perspective’ at the Bangladesh Institute of International and Strategic Studies (BIISS).

Whatever US State Department officials have or are saying, it is no secret to many that Washington is looking to establish a naval or air base in Bangladesh.

Meanwhile, for several years, Christian missionaries, as well as Western NGOs, have been secretly working in bordering areas in Bangladesh, India, and Myanmar, such as Teknaf, Khagrachhari, Rangamati, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Arakan Province, etc. with twin goals – converting Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and ethnic minorities into Christianity and preparing grounds for creation of a Christian state comprising lands belonging to Bangladesh, India and Myanmar.

Christian missionary publications have been running well-orchestrated propaganda with false claims of “Christian persecution” within these areas. They even attempt to connect the tribal population of Bangladesh, India, and Myanmar by stating, “Chin-Kuki-Mizo are a Mongol people, and today they speak related but distinct Tibeto-Burman languages.

More than one million Chin live in Myanmar, one million Mizo live in Mizoram, half a million Kuki live in Manipur, and tens of thousands of Kuki live in Bangladesh. In addition, due to the ongoing fighting between the Myanmar army and the Chin people, hundreds of thousands of Chin have fled overseas, including 80,000 in the United States”.

Countering this narratives of Christian missionaries, some analysts said, “Historically, the Kukis are known to practice Animism (worship different deities and spirits) and headhunting (hunting a human and collecting the severed head after killing the victims, sometimes more portable body parts)nowadays they following Messianic Judaism, The Bnei Menashe are composed of Chin Kuki Zo whose ancestors migrated into northeast, and in Manipur most of them came from Myanmar.

The Kukis in Manipur are also demanding to return to Israel. Mr. P.S. Haokip, who is of Burmese/Myanmar origin and also Chairman of KNA (Kuki National Army) and other insurgency groups they claimed as Kukis are the lost tribe of Israel while he has written to the Israel Prime Minister to recognize Bnei Menashe in Northeast India.

Mr. Haokip said that the Kukis are not Indian, they are just visitors; their real place is Israel and they claimed themselves as Jews the lost tribe of Israel.

In July 2023, Hindu Post in a report said, “Christian nationalist MNF govt makes ‘homeland’ call via unification of Mizo-Kuki-Chin-Zomi tribals living in Bharat, Myanmar and Bangladesh”.

Bangladesh authorities said there are external connections between the activities of the Kuki-Chin National Front and other groups in India and Myanmar. The KNF allegedly is involved in a long-standing plan to establish a separate eastern state in the region. Other analysts have described the KNF’s agenda and modus operandi in several articles.

Meanwhile, to hide their actual agenda of establishing a Christian state, leaders of KNF joined hands with an Islamist militancy outfit named Jamaat Ul Ansar Fil Hind Al Sharqiya (JAFHS), whereas the media was told that JAFHS, with military support from KNF, was trying to establish ‘Caliphate Village’ within Chittagong Hill Tract areas.

Kingpins of this dangerous group wanted to buy lands and run militancy activities under the garb of agricultural farms. They also were planning to lure local residents towards religious conversion. For this mission, JAFHS had established secret connections with several leaders of Tablighi Jamaat.

As a counterterrorism specialist, my opinion here is – that the connections or relations between the Kuki-Chin National Front and Jamaat Ul Ansar Fil Hind Al Sharqiya were purely strategic, and KNF wanted to use JAFHS in spreading terrorist acts within the targeted hilly areas in Bangladesh and India as well as Arakan State in Myanmar to simplify their real agenda of establishing a Christian state by disintegrating lands belonging to the three neighboring nations.

Once such a vicious plot is materialized – Western nations, especially the United States and Britain, would get access to the entire region by riding on its planned Christian state by using it as their vessel state. Undoubtedly, this is a serious threat to the national security of Bangladesh, India, and Myanmar – which can only be effectively confronted under the collaborative efforts of these three countries.

Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury is an internationally acclaimed multi-award-winning journalist, writer, research scholar, counterterrorism specialist, and Editor, Blitz, a newspaper publishing from Bangladesh since 2003. He regularly writes for local and international newspapers. Follow him on X @Salah_Shoaib
 
I am not going to go into the amount of weapons or the quality of weapons we may or may not have. If they say BD military is vastly inferior, they may have a case.

But the bigger picture is, India can't attack BD and hold it. Their entire east will be destabilized, and may see a new independent state comprising the old map of Bengal. The Indian state will be under serious pressure and may unravel. War is costly, India is not Russia or the US or even China.

Talk of war between India and BD is very dumb this late in picture given all the other avenues to come to mutual working agreement between India and BD where all parties continue peacefully to get to 2050 in better shape socioeconomically as the main priority.

Please ignore the idiot bhakts who refuse to concede on some basic realities, they live in mental safe spaces to armchair general.
 
Wow who are these thugs ? Most likely BNP/Jamaat thugs who had nothing better to do then storm the consulate and damage their own country property. I can understand taking down hasina photo, but why take down sheikh mujibs photo? He was the founder of modern Bangladesh, he does deserve that much respect. Let me guess these guys want zia ur Rahman, tareque zia n Khaleda zia photos instead, and if they come to power they will build statues of zia and Khaleda. I hope dr Yunus bans these two parties AL and BNP for good.

You cannot ban political parties. Even if you could you only end up banning them nominally.

Only way is to build up a proper alternative to both.
 

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