PTI freedom movement against Judiciary and Establishment: News, Discussion & Updates

[Cash gk]

Putwairoo ki leader ka letter to Oxford

 

[Mr X]

The Peter Principle says that in an hierarchy, everyone is rising towards their level of incompetence. To his credit he was an handsome and charismatic cricketer, a successful socialite, did great charity work and a reasonable politician but a total failure as a Prime Minister. He was brought into power by the Army and he was removed by the Army as he had become an existentialist threat to the country he think he was trying to fix. I can give you a laundry list of bad decisions and no decisions and his interaction with foreign friends of Pakistan that justified his removal. But his single biggest issue was the amount of control his wife of a few years I.e. Pinky Aunti had developed on him. Among other things, Pinky took advantage of this trust to influence many things in the government such as key appointments including that of Buzdar but lining her own pockets totally contradicting and destroying what he stood for. Imran’s issues are in his head. He has a narcissistic personality and very shallow understanding of Islam but he thinks he the smartest person. When he used to talk about Islam or history I can tell exactly which book he got his ideas from.

It seems he also a fan of Machiavelli. He has gone against everyone who helped his political career including Tareen as a result he is now surrounded by bunch of low intelligence sycophants. This a typical sign of a narcissist personality.

I don’t blame the Army for removing him but I do blame them specifically Bajwa for helping him become the PM in the first place.

I partially agree with your post

Our Army makes wrong decisions and then the entire nation has to suffer. It indicates that they are not visionary and often lead to blunders that everyone has to suffer due to their stubbornness.

Imran Khan did not have experience of managing 50 people in a small company and they gifted him to run the whole country.

He is not Imam Mahdi who will be skilled over night (according to Sunni version of the Hadith and quoting as a reference only). You need time and experience to deal with public affairs and unfortunately he did not have any. Among the very few things I hated about him, the worst was that he always assumed he is “aql-e-qul” and knew everything better than others… where in reality he was making stupid statements on many issues and he knew nothing of it. His stance on dealing with terrorism was a foolish one and indicated he never understood the severity of it.

He was a dangerous politician and let down many of his close aides but among the very few whose corrupt practices did not include financial laundering as far as I know.

The army made 200 fake cases against him and all of them made mockery of the establishment but there is a lot of weight to Al-Qadir trust case if you study it closely but he is unlikely to be direct beneficiary of it, just a stupid man got involved into it

I don’t agree about the pinky peerni allegations because Allah knows best and when I weigh the probability, it suggests that our army is busy defaming Imran Khan and instead of doing their job, they are involved in violating the constitution day and night, they just want to defame Imran Khan anyhow by hooks or crooks and pinky peerni whom according to her ex-husband in 2018-20 was the most pious lady is now the collateral damage of Imran vs Army issues. It is like the example of “sher aa gaya” when army made 200 fake cases and now nobody wants to believe in real case either.

 

[Bossman]

Enemies of Imran and Pakistan and their propaganda and lies against Imran Khan and Pakistan


"Imran Khan is a staunch fundamentalist Muslim.
Imran Khan is a Jewish agent.

Imran Khan is an enemy of women; he wants to confine them to their homes.
Women sing and dance at Imran Khan's rallies.

Why did Imran Khan say ‘Absolutely Not’?
Imran Khan is a slave of the West and is pushing their agenda.

Imran Khan is an enemy of the army and a traitor.
Why does Imran Khan want to talk to the army?

Young people in Pakistan are disillusioned with Imran Khan.
For God’s sake, the youth should stop supporting Imran Khan.

Imran Khan is addicted to drugs and will fall at others' feet in two days.
Those who support Imran Khan know that he has been in jail for a long time.

You will hear thousands of such contradictory statements from Imran Khan's opponents. Even if nothing else is proven, this much is certain: his opponents have carved out a unique place for themselves in hypocrisy."

One day you will wake up and realize that you have wasted you life following an illusion.

 

[airwolf137]

One day you will wake up and realize that you have wasted you life following an illusion.

So will you, I'm afraid.

 

[Taimoor]

Imran Khan, the hero who aimed to uplift Pakistan from its miserable state, has faced relentless challenges. Despite his tireless efforts, the nation's potential is consistently strangled by the very generals who are supposed to protect it. These arrogant, power-hungry despots have shown nothing but contempt for the people, manipulating the system for their gain while the nation suffers. Their actions are not just a betrayal; they are a disgrace to the uniform they wear.

Atleast two dozen of them must be hanged publicly to create the deterrence for future. Every single super power of ancient, recent past and present had civilian supremacy.

 

[Taimoor]

A failed political leader

I know you Indians hate him but he has got more vote bank all across Pakistan then your Modi can ever imagine something similar in India.

 

[Taimoor]

For me he is someone who disowned his real daughter for political gains

Lets assume you are right, but for what end? The political gain you mentioned, did they serve him for any personal reasons, like increase in wealth and resources, like most political dynasties in Pakistan use political power for?

And while you are at it, you must acknowledge, his marriage to Jemima came to end because of his political ambitions and not being able to give time to the family, something which ex wife acknowledges. Would that not be seen as a sacrifice ?

I respectfully disagree, his quest for political power is not guided by personal gains but to serve his nation.

 

[Taimoor]

But as I said, people were hoping and supported to him for better future of the country, but due to incompleteness - he gone to wrong direction and made too many mistakes. He might honest but does not have capabilities to lead a country...

What kinda lalaland you Indians are living under? He had a land slide victory just in Feb election, literally few months ago! Even if all the blatant rigging by Army generals is ignored, his party is the single largest party in parliament.

All the real political power is in the hands of IK.

 

[Mr X]

Lets assume you are right, but for what end? The political gain you mentioned, did they serve him for any personal reasons, like increase in wealth and resources, like most political dynasties in Pakistan use political power for?

And while you are at it, you must acknowledge, his marriage to Jemima came to end because of his political ambitions and not being able to give time to the family, something which ex wife acknowledges. Would that not be seen as a sacrifice ?

I respectfully disagree, his quest for political power is not guided by personal gains but to serve his nation.

Our nation as a society has not grown up yet. They decide people’s character on the basis of father’s deeds, daughters deeds and even cousins deeds.

A lot of people in Pakistan alleged Imran Khan of being the agent of Jewish lobby just because he married a Jewish girl. How will they forgive a person who has a illegitimae child?

This is the norm of our society, unfortunately.

 

[Taimoor]

Our nation as a society has not grown up yet. They decide people’s character on the basis of father’s deeds, daughters deeds and even cousins deeds.

A lot of people in Pakistan alleged Imran Khan of being the agent of Jewish lobby just because he married a Jewish girl. How will they forgive a person who has a illegitimae child?

This is the norm of our society, unfortunately.

His jews ex in-laws or his "alleged" illegitimate child has never been a concern for his vote bank has it? And he commands the single biggest mandate all across the Pakistan, by some margin!

What does it tell you?

 

[Mr X]

His jews ex in-laws or his "alleged" illegitimate child has never been a concern for his vote bank has it? And he commands the single biggest mandate all across the Pakistan, by some margin!

What does it tell you?

No doubt he is the most popular politician in Pakistan. Not only of 2024. But probably in the history of Pakistan.

If he dies in the prison, he will be remembered as the biggest and most influential politician from Pakistan after Quad-e-Azam and above Bhutto and his name will be chanted in PTI jalsas even in 2060.

He has a cult following and those who follow him, does not care about his past.

 

[Cash gk]

So will you, I'm afraid.

He will not. They are a special breed

 

[Taimoor]

No doubt he is the most popular politician in Pakistan. Not only of 2024. But probably in the history of Pakistan.

If he dies in the prison, he will be remembered as the biggest and most influential politician from Pakistan after Quad-e-Azam and above Bhutto and his name will be chanted in PTI jalsas even in 2060.

He has a cult following and those who follow him, does not care about his past.

My point was, his past was never been an issue before and after he entered politics. Nation has largely ignored his past exploits in his personal capacity. And here I would repeat what I keep on telling people, pay attention to the "collective wisdom" of the citizens of Pakistan. Ignore at your own peril. Those who think its all about IK and silencing/sideling him would make all hunky dory, I can tell you now, things have gone beyond IK vs Army generals. Its has become masses vs Generals. By not submitting to the will of the people, was the last nail in the coffin. If tomorrow people feel that IK has compromised with the generals, they will even abandon him. Generals head must roll to satisfy the anger on the streets.

 

[Oscar]

That bureaucrat was you right? Then Imran must be at fault

Cultism on cue.

And no, they were part of KP bureaucracy.

 

[Mustang125]

Cultism on cue.

And no, they were part of KP bureaucracy.

Curious here sir, are you referring to Azam khan? Who I believe was his principal secretary, and if yes, could it be the reason why he hates him is because he got abducted by the establishment to force him into a an approver against khan? Ofcourse whatever I said could be wrong. Regards,
H