Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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You can't say illegal when it was complied with laws, as you know Israel established based on UN resolution for partition plan on Palestine 1947.

You know.... referendum couldn't be reached as the 2 sides always clashed and attack each other, that was the background why UN had to come up with this Partition Plan.

Till now nobody can say which laws was violated by Israel when they declared independence as a sovereign nation. On the contrary Arab sides were always against laws many times by launching attack toward a sovereign state.

Currently there are only 2.8 millions arab/palestine descendent in Israel while there are 7 millions Jews; the 5 millions of palestine in palestine state doesn't count because their right for referendum is only for their own country not Israel.

YES,, I CAN SAY ILLEGAL

Without a referendum where the local population got to vote and choose their future, it's ALL ILLEGAL

A Jew state against the majority populations wishes, where the Jews were not even local was forced upon the land and people

5 million Arabs may be in Gaza or west bank but Israel controls everything including all the air space, borders and sea space

Israel is enforcing apartheid but it cannot sustain it as the Palestinians population gets bigger

Even amongst the Israeli the Palestinians will hit 25% and 30% soon enough
 
Naah .... Palestinians are not comparable to native Americans.

Native americans are indisputably the native in America and were there before white people there.

Arab Palestinian are very much disputably native (if not native at all) in Palestine land, and were not there before Israel existed there.


The Palestinians are native

The Palestinians carry local genes, they are just cannonites and Jews who became Muslims

The Jews are foreign, mostly khazars and from other parts of the world

The Jews are the only people who left the middle east black and came back white,, it's a Jew con


The middle east wants this Jew colonial state gone


The Jews won't get a moment of peace and Israel will be a toxic mess until they are gone
 
There is one big difference and that is the surviving native Americans are full US citizens and so can live in any part of the United States.

The Zionist entity refuses to allow the Palestinians the right of return and the vote.

They(Zionists) had one realistic option to be accepted and that was one state where all Palestinians can return to their homes and lands and the right to citizenship with full equal rights.

However now after this genocide and their more extreme behaviour over the last 20 years, the Palestinians will probably no longer allow the one state solution and would want the ones who were not present in Palestine before the British took control to leave - that would be 90% of the Jewish population in Palestine at this time.

So are with arab Palestine who reside in Israel territory from the begininng ....they can live in Israel as good citizen.
 
YES,, I CAN SAY ILLEGAL

Without a referendum where the local population got to vote and choose their future, it's ALL ILLEGAL

A Jew state against the majority populations wishes, where the Jews were not even local was forced upon the land and people

5 million Arabs may be in Gaza or west bank but Israel controls everything including all the air space, borders and sea space

Israel is enforcing apartheid but it cannot sustain it as the Palestinians population gets bigger

Even amongst the Israeli the Palestinians will hit 25% and 30% soon enough

Nope, referendum can be replaced by UN resolution when it fails and hardly possible for implementation.

Your mere words (which are mere claims) cannot negate UN PP 1947 as the laws.
 
So are with arab Palestine who reside in Israel territory from the begininng ....they can live in Israel as good citizen.
That is not for you to decide. We have had this discussion before, that is for the Palestinian people to decide, you, me, Israeli, no one has the right to deny them their sense of agency and right to self-determination.

Thanks.
 
Some of Hamas HQs have been just blown recently could be considered some achievement for IDF.

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Some of Hamas HQs have been just blown yesterday could be considered some achievement for IDF.

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Great work by idf lets hope they can fast track the objectives and be done with it within this month.
 

Despite denials, world becoming more convinced genocide is underway in Gaza​


The governments of Bolivia, Malaysia, Turkey, and key U.S. Mideast ally Jordan have all announced their support for South Africa’s genocide petition against Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in response to its horrific assault on Palestinians in Gaza and the occupied territories. The hearing before the ICJ, adjudicating disputes in a civil court between U.N. member states, is set for Jan. 11.

The petition is part of an urgent and growing global effort for a ceasefire and to stop the near-complete destruction of Gaza and the incomprehensible number of Palestinian deaths in a war orchestrated by Israel’s extreme right nationalist government in the wake of the Oct. 7 Hamas massacre.

International human rights organizations, governments, and scholars of genocide cite the killing of over 23,000 Palestinians and the massive bombing that has turned most of Gaza into rubble, destroying infrastructure including housing and shelters, desalination, water, and sanitation facilities, hospitals, schools, mosques, and agriculture. Israel has shut off electricity and blocked humanitarian relief, causing mass starvation and disease to spread.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his messianic governing coalition partners, and much of Israeli media call for making Gaza uninhabitable in order to forcibly displace 2.3 million Palestinians, including to other countries.

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Supporters of Palestine demonstrate at the entrance to the Israeli embassy in Pretoria, South Africa, on Oct. 20, 2023. South Africa’s government has filed a case with the International Court of Justice against Israel on the charge of genocide. | Denis Farrell / AP
Ofer Cassif of the Hadash-Ta’al party became the first member of the Israeli Knesset and one of 400 Israelis to sign the South African petition. “My constitutional duty is to Israeli society and all its residents, not to a government whose members and its coalition are calling for ethnic cleansing and even actual genocide. They are the ones who harm the country and the people, they are the ones who led to South Africa’s appeal, not me and my friends,” said Cassif.

“When the government acts against society, the state, and its citizens, especially when it sacrifices them and commits crimes in their name on the altar of maintaining its existence, it is my right and even my duty to warn about this and do everything I can within the law to stop it.

“I will not give up the fight for our existence as a moral society. This is true patriotism, not unnecessary bloodshed, and not sacrificing kidnapped citizens and soldiers in senseless wars,” said Cassif, who now faces calls for expulsion by right-wing extremists in the Knesset. He was already temporarily removed in late October after warning that ethnic cleansing was under way in Gaza at the hands of the Israel Defense Forces.

More than 900 popular movements, unions, political parties, and other organizations have signed an open letter calling on states to support South Africa’s petition against Israel.

In response to the South African petition, U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said, “Those are allegations that should not be made lightly…. We are not seeing any acts that constitute genocide.” The U.S. is the primary supplier of weaponry to Israel.

Human rights organizations and scholars have increasingly raised warnings and accusations of genocide by Israel over the past two decades. But the calls have grown dramatically since the Netanyahu coalition government, dominated by extreme religious nationalist and far-right settler parties, launched its unprecedented war of destruction in Gaza following the Hamas terrorist attack and massacre in Israel.

On Oct. 15, barely a week into the war, nearly 800 scholars and practitioners of international law, conflict studies, and genocide studies warned of the possibility of genocide against Palestinians. Concerns and condemnations escalated from there.

On Oct. 19, over 100 civil society organizations, including Palestinian groups and genocide scholars, appealed to the International Criminal Court to intervene and prevent an unfolding genocide.

On Nov. 9, three Palestinian human rights organizations filed a lawsuit with the International Criminal Court (ICC) to request arrest warrants against Israeli leaders—including Netanyahu—for genocide.

On Nov. 16, U.N. experts warned of a “genocide in the making.” They illustrated evidence of “increasing genocidal incitement, and an overt intent to ‘destroy the Palestinian people under occupation,’ loud calls for a ‘second Nakba’ in Gaza and the rest of the occupied Palestinian territory, and the use of powerful weaponry with inherently indiscriminate impacts, resulting in a colossal death toll and destruction of life-sustaining infrastructure.”

On Dec. 5, 55 scholars of the Holocaust, genocide, and mass violence issued a statement deploring “the atrocity crimes against civilians committed by Hamas and Islamic Jihad on Oct. 7 and by Israeli forces since then” and warned “of the danger of genocide in Israel’s attack on Gaza.”

Another group of Holocaust and genocide scholars says Israeli actions, despite their atrocious character, don’t amount to genocide. They say despite the legal definition, proving genocidal intent is extremely difficult. Some backers of the Israeli government maintain that Hamas engaged in genocide on Oct. 7 and in calls for the elimination of Israel and that Israel is acting in self-defense by trying to destroy Hamas.

On Dec. 12, the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH) said that Israel’s actions against the Palestinian people constitute an unfolding genocide.

In addition, many of the same groups accuse Israel and Hamas of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity under international law, including murder of civilians, torture, kidnapping, and sexual violence. In addition, Israel has subjected Gaza to a total siege for 16 years, is using white phosphorus on civilians, and is subjecting Palestinians to collective punishment.

The U.S., as the primary weapons supplier of Israel, is also being accused of abetting the genocide by actively arming Israel and providing diplomatic cover, which is also a crime under international law.

“In light of the evidence of war crimes and other violations, the U.S. must follow its own laws and policies regarding the transfer and sale of arms, including its Conventional Arms Transfer Policy and Civilian Harm Incident Response Guidance, which together are meant to prevent arms transfers that risk facilitating or otherwise contributing to civilian harm and to violations of human rights or international humanitarian law,” said Amnesty International.

The world is witnessing the destruction of life and society in the whole in Gaza, one of the most densely populated places in the world, upon which Israel has dropped more bombs than the U.S. dropped on Afghanistan during the entire war there.

“The levels of destruction and killing takes us into the total destruction of Palestinian society, in addition to archeological and cultural sites being bombed. The idea is to erase Palestinian life and society in Gaza and remove Palestinians from Gaza completely,” said Raz Segal, the lead organizer of the statement by Holocaust and genocide scholars.

“The forced displacement of two million people, the whole population, a total siege, no food, no water, deliberately creating conditions to bring about the destruction of the group. This escalates in many cases to outright mass murder,” Segal said.

The definition of genocide arose following the Holocaust, in which German Nazis systematically murdered six million Jews during World War II. The global community codified the crime into international law under the Rome Treaty and the U.N. Convention on Genocide, adopted in 1948.

The Holocaust was the main precipitating event resulting in the partition of Palestine and the creation of the state of Israel. The United Nations and Jewish community sought a place where Jews could be safe after the horrors inflicted upon them, but violence and mass displacement of Palestinians came with the creation of Israel.

Under Article II of the U.N. Convention, “genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such:
  1. a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Under Article III, the following acts shall be punishable: (a) Genocide; (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide; (d) Attempt to commit genocide; (e) Complicity in genocide.”
Both Israel’s intent and action are being conducted in the open for the world to see, with images and videos of atrocities circulating daily on social media. It is the most widely documented genocide in modern history.

“It’s over time and using various mechanisms to express this intent and also dehumanizing Palestinians. Intent is one thing that differentiates genocide from other crimes,” said Palestinian-American lawyer Lara Elborno. “If Israel didn’t drop a single bomb on Gaza, but all it did was cut off food, water, and electricity to its 2.2 million residents, that action alone is sufficient to constitute genocide under the Treaties.”

Another aspect that differentiates a war crime from an act of genocide is the legal obligation in Article I of the U.N. Convention. “Once states recognize there is a clear risk of genocide or that it’s occurring, there’s a clear obligation to step in and stop it and prevent it. Which is different from other crimes in international law,” said Segal.

The act of genocide is a process, evolving in stages from incitement to action. Years of growing dehumanization and hatred of Jews, incitement to violence, brutal repression, imprisonment, and various plans to deport Jews living in Germany and Nazi-occupied territories proceeded the actual Holocaust. Finally, the Nazis devised their “Final Solution” and established the industrial-scale death machine that killed most of the six million Jews in the space of two and a half years, along with millions of other people murdered for political, ethnic, and religious reasons.

A similar process of incitement, displacement, racial hatred, and dehumanization is now taking place in Gaza, the West Bank, and Jerusalem. In addition to the residents of the Palestinian territories, another two million Palestinian Israelis are also in great danger. They are being subjected to growing political repression, firing from jobs, expulsion from universities, and physical assaults and threats.

“We’re also seeing it in the West Bank. Seeing unbelievable ethnic cleansing. Israel has killed hundreds already, thousands arrested, 16 communities displaced completely. Very quickly escalating violence. If we think about genocide the process that it is,” said Segal.

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A bulldozer unloads the bodies of Palestinians killed by the Israeli military during a mass funeral in Rafah, Gaza Strip, Dec. 26, 2023. | Fatima Shbair / AP
Calls by Israeli government officials to deport the Gazan population to the Sinai Desert should also raise the alarm, said Segal, and should be taken at face value. Historically, deserts have been used for genocide by the Ottoman Empire against Armenians in 1915-16 and by German colonizers against the Herero and Namaqua indigenous people in what is today Namibia, the first documented genocide of the 20th century.

Another aspect of genocide is racist incitement by Israeli officials, media, and civil society against Palestinians, including the call for another “Nakba.” The first Nakba in 1948 (many Palestinian rights activists contend the Nakba or forced displacement never ended) drove 750,000 Palestinians from their homes, which led to the creation of the Israeli state. Many refugees from that displacement ended up in Gaza.

“Israeli society is engaged in a very genocidal discourse,” said Segal. “We see it in the media, in politics, in public spaces, including huge signs hanging from freeway overpasses calling for flattening GAZA, the image of triumph would be zero people in Gaza. Very direct and explicit.”

Similar incitement by the media took place in the Rwanda genocide when Hutu militias slaughtered some 800,000 Tutsis in July 1994.

“Under Article II, people with command authority, state leaders, war cabinet leaders, ministers and senior army officials, their statements are very clear and unashamed,” he said.

Genocidal intent also requires state capacity to carry out the act and proof of state involvement in the murder.

“We are seeing unprecedented levels of destruction since WWII” on a scale that requires a nation with state capacity to carry it out, said Segal. “The North of Gaza is almost completely destroyed. Israel’s attack targets everything—schools, mosques, universities, cities, churches, agricultural fields, health care workers and doctors, hospitals, more than half of all buildings in Gaza have been destroyed, two million Palestinians forcibly displaced, specific groups are targeted (journalists for example to prevent documentation of the crime, healthcare workers, and U.N. relief staff).”

Hamas committed horrific mass murder and crimes against humanity on Oct. 7. As deplorable as the crimes were, however, according to many experts, they don’t rise to the level of genocide because Hamas lacks the state capacity to carry out the annihilation of Israelis.

“The absolute majority of Gaza’s residents are innocent,” dissident lawmaker Cassif declared this week in a speech to the Knesset. “Lies will not help and demonization will not help,” he said. “The vast majority of Gaza’s residents, as everywhere in the world, are innocent people who all want to live a normal life.”

 
Almost 100 days and not a single hostage rescued and no resistance fighters have been killed

On the contrary over a dozen Israeli were sent to hell on a one way ticket yesterday alone

43 warships from 16 nations, over 10,000 Nazi mercenaries from Ukraine, Greece and France are fighting for Israel and over 400 high ranking military commanders from every Western nation are advising Israel

220 cargo flights from US and 20 large container ship supplying Israel with $15 billion in weapons

And yet they still can’t defeat orphans making weapons in their basements

And worldwide conversions to Islam are at all time high

And yet Palestinian resistance is only getting stronger

This is not human and not possible this is impossible

So it means There is divine intervention here

God is on the side of the Palestinians

And true Muslims never win by numbers they will by permission of Allah Swt

May Allah give them the victory inshallah or Jannah Ameen
 
Nope, referendum can be replaced by UN resolution when it fails and hardly possible for implementation.

Your mere words (which are mere claims) cannot negate UN PP 1947 as the laws.
If UNGA resolutions were legally binding then Israel is in a lot of trouble

Question: what are Israel's borders?
 
If UNGA resolutions were legally binding then Israel is in a lot of trouble

Question: what are Israel's borders?
Yesterday - David Cameron was in front of the committee and he was really on edge - squirming and couldnt answer. Cutting water off is collective punishment and against all laws internationally -- couldnt answer - they are screwed.....

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Nope, referendum can be replaced by UN resolution when it fails and hardly possible for implementation.

Your mere words (which are mere claims) cannot negate UN PP 1947 as the laws.

Anton on a tear!
What are or were in fact the UN designated borders for that bastardized state?

Here listen to Truman

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The modern day Cyrus

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Why they couldn't be settled in the US?

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Horse's mouth they say...

Well who but the POTUS himself can assuage an irked Anton, right?
 
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