Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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It doesnt matter if Israeli people grandparents are not from there at all. Current Israeli people born there and they have right to live where they born.

American people are not from America land, Aussie people are not from Australia.
And nobody asks for a two states solutions for Native and Aboriginal people.

And nobody would justify if Native American use the violence to get back their land.

The real DNA proved owners of New York land.

Imagine if they do something like Oct 7 to get back their land, who would support that crazy thing?


What does it matter where you were born or even your parents?

There was no implied consent from the Palestinians after they were taken over by the British at the end of WW1.

Every single settler who does not have family origin since before the time of the British in Palestine must be expelled from the land back to wherever they originate from.


PS - Native Americans already "have their land back" as they are full citizens of the USA and can live wherever the European descendents of the colonialists can live. Can any Palestinian turn up and live anywhere in Palestine like a random Jew from Uruguay at this time?
 
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Don't know what's going on in this video but looks like the Gazans are watching the IDF soldiers on CCTV and planning to drop something on them from ceiling!

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What does it matter where you were born or even your parents?

There was no implied consent from the Palestinians after they were taken over by the British at the end of WW1.

Every single settler who does not have family orginin since before the time of the British in Palestine must be expelled from the land back to wherever they originate from.


PS - Native Americans already "have their land back" as they are full citizens of the USA and can live wherever the European descendents of the colonialists can live. Can any Palestine turn up and live anywhere in Palestine like a random Jew from Uruguay at this time?
Native Americans have no own state, so you would be glad if Gaza people are accepted like Israeli Arab citizens?
 
Genetic studies on Jews have found no substantive evidence of a Khazar origin among Ashkenazi Jews. Geneticists such as Doron Behar and others (2013) have concluded that such a link is unlikely, noting that it is difficult to test the Khazar hypothesis using genetics because there is lack of clear modern descendants of the Khazars that could provide a clear test of the contribution to Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, but found no genetic markers in Ashkenazi Jews that would link them to peoples of the Caucasus/Khazar area.[8] Atzmon and others found evidence that the Ashkenazi have mixed Near Eastern and Southern European/Mediterranean origins, though some admixture with Khazar and Slavic populations after 100 CE was not excluded.[a][8] Xue and others note a wholly Khazar/Turkish/Middle eastern origin is out of the question, given the complexity of Ashkenazi admixtures.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry#cite_note-10 Although the majority of contemporary geneticists who have published on the topic dismiss it, there are some who have defended its plausibility, or not excluded the possibility of some Khazar component in the formation of the Ashkenazi.

The hypothesis has been cited at times by anti-Zionists to challenge the idea that Jews have genetic ties to ancient Israel. It has also occasionally played some role in antisemitic theories propounded by fringe groups of American racists, Russian nationalists and adherents of the Christian identity movement.

Palestinian mostly are arab descendent in spite of the possibility some mix with canaanite in the past, but still are considered arabs.

Buddy your using Wikipedia,, look at the Jews in Israel,, they are either white Westerners or middle Easterners from Iraq or Morocco or other places

None of them are local,, the Palestinians as a population have never moved they are just the people of the land who continue to live in their land, they have now once again become the majority and being a much younger population means they have the advantage over the jews
 
Native Americans already "have their land back" as they are full citizens of the USA and can live wherever the European descendents of the colonialists can live

The entire Native American discussion, brought into this thread by the Israeli supporters, is just a diversion: The Native Americans fought for CENTURIES against the creeping occupation of their land, despite impossible odds and the NA killed ruthlessly any European Settlers--young, old, men, women--anyone they could kill!!! The odds were impossible: NA tribes not only were a tiny fraction of the European invaders but also lacked in material means.

I know that's how humanity had always worked but for some to draw parallels between the Native Americans and the Palestinians, implying the Palestinians should learn from the Native Americans. WRONG!! Firstly, this is not the pre 21st century era where genocide can be hidden, tolerated or condoned. Secondly, Palestinians, unlike the Native Americans, have the demographics and outside support to not only fight back but also win!!
Enough of bogus comparisons!!
 
Nope, referendum can be replaced by UN resolution when it fails and hardly possible for implementation.

Your mere words (which are mere claims) cannot negate UN PP 1947 as the laws.

???? How can it be replaced???? That's a joke

How can a land be divided without asking the local population what their decision is in a proper referendum

The Palestinians were never asked or given a choice, this is why ISRAEL is illegal

The Palestinians right from the beginning were clear we don't tolerate this injustice and they want to be free and independent and for the Jews to leave

And fundamentally that's what will happen
 
The entire Native American discussion, brought into this thread by the Israeli supporters, is just a diversion: The Native Americans fought for CENTURIES against the creeping occupation of their land, despite impossible odds and the NA killed ruthlessly any European Settlers--young, old, men, women--anyone they could kill!!! The odds were impossible: NA tribes not only were a tiny fraction of the European invaders but also lacked in material means.

I know that's how humanity had always worked but for some to draw parallels between the Native Americans and the Palestinians, implying the Palestinians should learn from the Native Americans. WRONG!! Firstly, this is not the pre 21st century era where genocide can be hidden, tolerated or condoned. Secondly, Palestinians, unlike the Native Americans, have the demographics and outside support to not only fight back but also win!!
Enough of bogus comparisons!!


They have no logical arguments and the last remaining one that the Jewish God gave it to them is irrelevant to anyone else but Jews.

Simply they have no claim to the land and they need to return from where they originate from.

These monsters cannot now remain in Palestine as they are genocidal maniacs and better they voluntarily leave while they can, as when the Palestinians take their land back for sure one day in the not too distant future, no mercy may be shown on them for their crimes against the Palestinian people.
 
They have no logical arguments and the last remaining one that the Jewish God gave it to them is irrelevant to anyone else but Jews.

There never was any ethical, legal, and logical argument. The same UN which created Israel in 1948 is condemned by Israel--and condemned for last several decades--for being 'biased' against Israel.
This is purely a colonial enterprise, justified on the basis of some ancient claim. When people in my WASP circle say something like 'God gave them the land', I asked them, well, 'My God gave me your house. Acceptable?' [Yes, I literally had conversations along such lines!! I don't engage anymore--no point alienating friends/family]
Stupid Cucks, the WASPs are!!! Stupid!!
 
Don't know what's going on in this video but looks like the Gazans are watching the IDF soldiers on CCTV and planning to drop something on them from ceiling!

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No, it looks like they tried to penetrate tunnel and in the middle of the clip they dropped camera on wire to check surroundings of it and after that fire from Hamas fighters after they came in and probably detonated tunnel itself.
I suppose detonating it is standard procedure for Hamas after the tunnel is discovered by enemy intruders.
 
No, it looks like they tried to penetrate tunnel and in the middle of the clip they dropped camera on wire to check surroundings of it and after that fire from Hamas fighters after they came in and probably detonated tunnel itself.
I suppose detonating it is standard procedure for Hamas after the tunnel is discovered by enemy intruders.

Dang!! You sure know a lot!!
 
Amid talks of Bank of Israel asking the Israel govt. to raise taxes, here is one more bad news for Israel.
Just three militias doing this to Israel!!!



Ami Daniel, CEO of maritime risk monitoring company Windward, says more and more shipping lines are avoiding the risk of sailing to Israel.​





Ami Daniel, founding partner and CEO of maritime risk information company Windward, does not recall an event short of all-out war that has caused as much disruption to navigation and world trade, mainly affecting ships of US allies, as the current situation in the Red Sea.

"What has been happening in the past few weeks in the Red Sea is a black swan," he told "Globes". Windward analyses world shipping movements in real time and provides intelligence to navies and coastguards in Western countries. It also assists shipping lines, financing companies, and oil and gas companies, to assess risks to ships and sea lanes.

Daniel himself knows a thing or two about naval warfare. He saw up close the Chinese C-802 missiles that the Houthi rebels in Yemen are using when he was an officer on the deck of the INS Hanit in the Second Lebanon War.

The Houthis are believed to have used that same missile to attack cargo vessels in the Red Sea in more than 100 separate incidents. In addition, the Iranians attacked the Chem Pluto, owned by Idan Ofer, 200 kilometers west of the Indian coast, and there have been two attacks by Somali pirates.

Mission impossible

Daniel says that Operation Prosperity Guardian, which is meant to provide a response to the attacks, is flagging. "The US is clearly leading it, and Britain is part of it, but there are countries like France and Spain that joined and left, and another ten countries that are not identifying themselves. This coalition is weakly organized, and the forces are operating independently. The French, for example, will probably mainly protect the ships of French company CMA CGM. The Indians, who have not joined the operation, deployed destroyers following the Iranian attack, and these provide a solution near Somalia, but we don’t have a situation in which a US admiral gives an order and everyone rushes to carry it out."

The expansion of the hostile acts against Western ships to the Indian Ocean and to larger parts of the Arabian Sea has made the naval coalition’s task almost impossible.

"To protect a cargo or container vessel, a warship has to be not more than 2,000 yards away from it. If in the threatened area, from northwest Yemen to southeast Aden, there are 260 ships, and you have to stand a mile in each direction from them, you need a lot of warships just to provide protection, and that’s mission impossible."

This partly stems from the fear countries have of being perceived as siding with Israel.

"That’s right. We have seen captains explicitly request that US ships should not escort them, unless it’s a matter of several ships from the coalition forces, and with UN support, which is something difficult very to obtain. They are basically saying ‘I’d rather not be protected than have the Americans protecting me.’ This is a new trend that we haven’t seen before. We have already seen several ships broadcasting ‘We have no connection to Israel’ in their position reports, in response to a declaration by the Houthis that they will spare any ship that does so, and will attack any ship sailing to Israel, carrying Israeli cargo, or trading with Israel. So far, we have identified Chinese, Russian, and Greek ships sending out this message."

o the Chinese and the Russians have bought themselves insurance against attacks?

"COSCO declared that they would no longer ship goods to Israel. Taiwanese line Evergreen made a similar announcement, saying that it would temporarily cease accepting Israeli cargo, and then removed it from its website. We also know that, unlike Western shipping lines such as Maersk and Hapag Lloyd, the Chinese, Russian and Taiwanese ships are sailing in the Red Sea as usual. I don’t know whether they have agreements with the Houthis, but there are ships that declare that they are Chinese, or that they have no connection to Israel."

What consequences for world trade do you see in your systems?

"Significant price rises in shipping for goods and products from China and other Asian countries - chiefly containers of furniture and toys, and car transporters. 30% of the world’s containers went via the Red Sea, and now, with low stocks to start with because of the economic crisis of the past few years, war premiums, and delays caused by sailing around Africa, container prices have risen.

"There’s a rise of between fourfold and eightfold in shipping prices for twenty-foot and forty-foot containers, and there are already indications that shipping an MSC container will cost $10,000 next month, prices we last heard of during the Covid pandemic. Not long ago, we were in the region of $1,700.

"As far as cars are concerned, after the attack on the Galaxy Leader, we see a tripling of the number of transporters of cars of Chinese, Japanese, and Korean brands rounding Africa in December in comparison with the previous month. All that will add $1,000-2,000 to the price of a car in the near future. The confrontation in the Red Sea will have considerable inflationary consequences."

A risk level like Ukraine

To what extent is Israel affected differently from other countries in the region and in Europe?

"Israel faces a danger of silent, creeping sanctions. It is not a big consumer, or importer and exporter, of goods, while sailing to it has become riskier. More and more crew on a growing number of ships are asking their managers that they should not sail in the Red Sea and not go to Israel. The shipping lines are backing this trend, such as COSCO, which has announced that it will not anchor in Israel, and other companies that, as far as risk management is concerned, regard sailing to Israel as carrying the same risk as sailing to Ukraine.

"I should stress that we’re not talking of the danger of a blockade of Israel, because we have sufficient resources and companies around the world that will help with supply, but we’ll pay a price for it. Jewish and Israeli shipowners will continue to do business here, and the rest will raise their tariffs, or will be less available. Instead of six supply lines, there are liable to be two or three here. The rest will prefer not to take the risk and not to manage it, and every product you want to bring to Israel will become dearer."

There are government compensation mechanisms if shipping to Israel is impacted.

"True, but foreign shipping companies simply prefer not to manage the risk involved in sailing to Israel, so they raise the risk premium, or unload the merchandise in Piraeus, for example, and a company with an Israeli connection ships it to Israel. These are silent sanctions that government compensation mechanisms don’t solve."

What then can the government do?

"Let’s start with saying that they should appoint someone responsible for dealing with the problem. Is that the Ministry of Economy and Industry? The Ministry of Labor? The Ministry of Defense? Perhaps the Ministry of Foreign Affairs? After that, it’s possible to think about solutions: to approach the major shipping lines, to be in touch with them and to build a package of incentives for them, or to give tax breaks to importers. In a scenario of prolonged harm to trade, there has to be someone who leads and who is responsible on behalf of the state."
 
Al Qassam video showing sophisticated ambush of Zionist Special Forces Unit while Mujahideen Brigades show seized Israeli weapons
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Quite a chance of fortunes for Eilat!


The city has been transformed from a tourism resort to a haven for evacuees.​





Eilat is struggling to recover from the economic blow dealt by the war, according to data published by Shva, Israel's national credit card payment system company, which monitors credit card payments in Israel. The city has been transformed from a tourism resort to a haven for evacuees.

Although the level of consumer spending in the Red Sea resort is improving, Shva data show that in the week of December 17 to December 23 credit card payments were 30% lower than in the corresponding week of 2022.
 
No, it looks like they tried to penetrate tunnel and in the middle of the clip they dropped camera on wire to check surroundings of it and after that fire from Hamas fighters after they came in and probably detonated tunnel itself.
I suppose detonating it is standard procedure for Hamas after the tunnel is discovered by enemy intruders.

Yeah, they explained it in this tweet. The Al-Qassam Brigades blew up the tunnel after the child killing IOF entered it.

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