An Unlikely Ally: How Imran Khan Could Shape Israeli-Pakistani Relations: Times of Israel

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You have completely misunderstood

It's an interesting attempt to get Pakistanis to soften to Israel by offering Imran khan in charge in exchange

It's a cute and unexpected suggestion


Saudi are going up recognise Israel

They will drag Pakistan along

Wouldn't it be an easier pill to swallow if Imran khan is given another shot?
I doubt IK would ever recognize Israel.

I'm convinced that the war in Gaza is coming to an end (in 1 to 2 months), and once that happens the Saudis will recognize Israel. The Saudis will force the Sharifs and Zardaris to accept Israel as well, because they know it'll be easier to convince the Sharifs and Zardaris than it will be to convince IK.
 
I doubt IK would ever recognize Israel.

I'm convinced that the war in Gaza is coming to an end (in 1 to 2 months), and once that happens the Saudis will recognize Israel. The Saudis will force the Sharifs and Zardaris to accept Israel as well.
Yes I agree

This article is mischievous

Maybe it's designed to mean the exact opposite, by endorsing Imran khan so openly they are effectively trying to make it easier to descredit him

Pti should position this article as an attempt by invertors of truth trying to keep ik away from power
 
I doubt IK would ever recognize Israel.

I'm convinced that the war in Gaza is coming to an end (in 1 to 2 months), and once that happens the Saudis will recognize Israel. The Saudis will force the Sharifs and Zardaris to accept Israel as well, because they know it'll be easier to convince the Sharifs and Zardaris than it will be to convince IK.


Btw, Jemimas mother was Catholic

She cannot be Jewish right?

How prominent are the goldsmith's in Israel or even connected?

They are making it sound like they are the same as other families who found Israel.

Leading me to think Imran khan is being complimented to discredit him
 

Talal Chaudhry claims Imran Khan was launched into politics to protect Israeli interests

Israeli newspaper has now confirmed the PTI founder’s actions regarding Israeli interests, says PML-N leader
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Senior leader of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Senator Talal Chaudhry has alleged that the founder of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), Imran Khan, was introduced into Pakistani politics to safeguard Israeli interests.

Reacting to an article published in an Israeli newspaper, Chaudhry stated, "The Israeli newspaper has now confirmed the PTI founder’s actions regarding Israeli interests."

He further claimed that the Goldsmith family played a significant role in the PTI leader's election at Oxford University, adding that Jemima Goldsmith – Imran Khan’s former wife – has consistently supported him in difficult times.

In a separate statement, Chaudhry commented on PTI’s September 8 rally in Islamabad, cautioning the party against spreading unrest.

"If the law is violated, action will be taken. The PTI can hold 100 rallies, but the government will not allow a repeat of May 9," he said, referring to previous unrest linked to the party.

He also accused PTI of using rallies to seek an NRO.

The remarks followed a controversial article published in Israel, where the author described Imran Khan as the ideal figure to improve Pakistan-Israel relations.

The piece also claimed that the PTI leader had previously sent messages to Israel through the Goldsmith family.
Best to exile and ban IK permanently from Pakistan rather than keep him in prison.
 
Zionist Israel is the only country in world that has raised voice in support of Zionist mole in Pakistan, the charsi khota, at the UN platform.

Idiots are looking for Showbaz speaking at the UN against Israel as a justification. What a sick minded creature.

You are an absolute fool. Imran Khan's record on defending the Palestinians is impeccable. Even the Arab people acknowledge this. The Arab leaders don't approve of Imran Khan. Imran Khan makes them look very weak.
 
Yes I agree

This article is mischievous

Maybe it's designed to mean the exact opposite, by endorsing Imran khan so openly they are effectively trying to make it easier to descredit him

Pti should position this article as an attempt by invertors of truth trying to keep ik away from power

It is meant to discredit Imran Khan. These Zionist killers are always busy in their mischief.
 
I doubt IK would ever recognize Israel.

I'm convinced that the war in Gaza is coming to an end (in 1 to 2 months), and once that happens the Saudis will recognize Israel. The Saudis will force the Sharifs and Zardaris to accept Israel as well, because they know it'll be easier to convince the Sharifs and Zardaris than it will be to convince IK.

Imran Khan has been crystal clear and most vocal on Palestine on international platforms. Only a PML-N and PPP donkey would question Imran's position on Palestine.
 
Pakistan’s Historical Stance on Israel

Pakistan has long been one of the staunchest supporters of the Palestinian cause, arguably more so than many other Muslim-majority countries. This position is rooted deeply in Pakistan’s identity as an Islamic Republic and its broader commitment to the ummah, or global Muslim community. The notion of recognizing Israel has historically been seen as contradictory to this identity, particularly given the country’s foundational links to the larger Islamic world.

The pro-Palestinian stance is not only political but also deeply embedded in Pakistani society and public opinion. This is reflected in the consistent policies of successive Pakistani governments, which have included open condemnations of Israel’s actions in the Palestinian territories, refusal to engage in diplomatic relations, and support for Palestinian statehood at international forums such as the United Nations.

The intensity of Pakistan’s anti-Israel sentiment can be traced back to its founding in 1947, during which it sought to establish itself as a leader of the Muslim world, aligning with other Muslim nations that opposed the creation of Israel. This alliance was further solidified through Pakistan’s membership in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and other Islamic blocs, where the Palestinian cause has remained a central issue.

Imran Khan’s Public Stance and Strategic Calculations

During his tenure as Prime Minister, Imran Khan publicly maintained Pakistan’s traditional support for the Palestinian cause. He condemned Israeli actions in Gaza, voiced support for Palestinian rights, and dismissed the idea of normalizing relations with Israel as long as the Palestinian issue remained unresolved. These positions were consistent with both domestic expectations and Pakistan’s longstanding foreign policy.

However, Imran Khan’s tenure was marked by a pragmatic approach to foreign relations, often characterized by a balancing act between public rhetoric and behind-the-scenes diplomacy. Khan’s pragmatism is evident in his broader foreign policy maneuvers, where he sought to strengthen ties with both traditional allies like China and Saudi Arabia and to open channels with adversaries when it suited Pakistan’s interests. This approach suggests that Khan may have been more open to reevaluating Pakistan’s position on Israel than his public statements indicated.

The Influence of the Goldsmith Family and Western Elites

Imran Khan’s close relationship with the Goldsmith family, particularly his ex-wife Jemima Goldsmith, is well-documented and plays a significant role in understanding his potential shift in stance towards Israel. The Goldsmith family is part of the British elite, with Zac Goldsmith, Jemima’s brother, having been involved in British politics, including a bid for the London mayoralty.

Zac Goldsmith’s connections to Jewish and pro-Israel circles in the UK, along with the broader influence of the family within Western elite circles, could have provided Khan with a different perspective on Israel. Khan’s support for Zac Goldsmith in the London mayoral election, even against a fellow Muslim candidate, Sadiq Khan, underscores his loyalty to the family and their broader network, which in turn have supported him in the past.

There have been reports suggesting that Imran Khan sent messages to Israeli officials through the Goldsmith family, signaling a potential willingness to consider normalizing relations between Pakistan and Israel and his willingness to moderate the religious discourse in Pakistan. If these reports are accurate, they suggest a level of flexibility in Khan’s approach to Israel that goes beyond the traditional Pakistani stance. This potential willingness to engage with Israel could be seen as a strategic move to align Pakistan’s foreign policy with the changing dynamics of the Middle East.

The Potential for Mediation and Regional Shifts

Imran Khan’s Western education and his ability to navigate between different cultural and political spheres position him uniquely as a potential mediator between Israel and Muslim states. His tenure as Prime Minister was marked by efforts to improve relations with key Middle Eastern players like Saudi Arabia and the UAE—both of which have shown signs of warming relations with Israel through the Abraham Accords and other normalization efforts.

Khan’s ability to bridge gaps between the West and the Islamic world could theoretically allow him to play a similar role in Israeli-Pakistani relations, if he were to return to power. His personal relationships and strategic outlook could be leveraged to mediate between Israel and other Muslim-majority countries, contributing to a broader regional realignment.

However, any attempt by Khan to shift Pakistan’s stance on Israel would be fraught with challenges. The political landscape in Pakistan is heavily influenced by religious organizations, many of which hold strong anti-Israel sentiments. Public opinion is also overwhelmingly against recognizing Israel, and any move towards normalization would likely face significant backlash from both the public and religious leaders.

Despite these challenges, Khan has previously shown a willingness to challenge the status quo, particularly in areas like education reform and women’s rights, where he has taken on powerful religious organizations. This suggests that he might be willing to take a more nuanced approach to Israel if he believes it could serve Pakistan’s broader strategic interests.

Speculation in a Rapidly Changing Middle East

While the idea of Imran Khan shaping Israeli-Pakistani relations remains speculative, it is not without merit given the rapidly changing geopolitical dynamics in the Middle East. The normalization of relations between Israel and several Arab states has shown that long-standing hostilities can be overcome through pragmatic diplomacy. These developments suggest that other Muslim-majority countries, including Pakistan, could potentially reevaluate their positions on Israel in the future.

The Middle East is in the midst of a significant realignment, driven by shifting alliances, economic interests, and the shared threat of extremism. In this context, Imran Khan’s potential role in shaping Pakistani-Israeli relations serves as a reminder that diplomacy often involves unconventional thinking and unexpected alliances. As the region continues to evolve, Pakistan’s foreign policy may also adapt in ways that were previously unthinkable, potentially opening the door to a new era of relations between Israel and the broader Islamic world.

Israel and its allies must do whatever they can to insure that Imran Khan is free again to participate in Pakistani politics and be the voice that channels moderation. Imran Khan’s unique position, relationships, and strategic thinking could influence Israeli-Pakistani relations, despite the significant challenges and opposition he would likely face in attempting such a shift.
These cartoons live in fools paradise
 
Pakistan’s Historical Stance on Israel

Pakistan has long been one of the staunchest supporters of the Palestinian cause, arguably more so than many other Muslim-majority countries. This position is rooted deeply in Pakistan’s identity as an Islamic Republic and its broader commitment to the ummah, or global Muslim community. The notion of recognizing Israel has historically been seen as contradictory to this identity, particularly given the country’s foundational links to the larger Islamic world.

The pro-Palestinian stance is not only political but also deeply embedded in Pakistani society and public opinion. This is reflected in the consistent policies of successive Pakistani governments, which have included open condemnations of Israel’s actions in the Palestinian territories, refusal to engage in diplomatic relations, and support for Palestinian statehood at international forums such as the United Nations.

The intensity of Pakistan’s anti-Israel sentiment can be traced back to its founding in 1947, during which it sought to establish itself as a leader of the Muslim world, aligning with other Muslim nations that opposed the creation of Israel. This alliance was further solidified through Pakistan’s membership in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and other Islamic blocs, where the Palestinian cause has remained a central issue.

Imran Khan’s Public Stance and Strategic Calculations

During his tenure as Prime Minister, Imran Khan publicly maintained Pakistan’s traditional support for the Palestinian cause. He condemned Israeli actions in Gaza, voiced support for Palestinian rights, and dismissed the idea of normalizing relations with Israel as long as the Palestinian issue remained unresolved. These positions were consistent with both domestic expectations and Pakistan’s longstanding foreign policy.

However, Imran Khan’s tenure was marked by a pragmatic approach to foreign relations, often characterized by a balancing act between public rhetoric and behind-the-scenes diplomacy. Khan’s pragmatism is evident in his broader foreign policy maneuvers, where he sought to strengthen ties with both traditional allies like China and Saudi Arabia and to open channels with adversaries when it suited Pakistan’s interests. This approach suggests that Khan may have been more open to reevaluating Pakistan’s position on Israel than his public statements indicated.

The Influence of the Goldsmith Family and Western Elites

Imran Khan’s close relationship with the Goldsmith family, particularly his ex-wife Jemima Goldsmith, is well-documented and plays a significant role in understanding his potential shift in stance towards Israel. The Goldsmith family is part of the British elite, with Zac Goldsmith, Jemima’s brother, having been involved in British politics, including a bid for the London mayoralty.

Zac Goldsmith’s connections to Jewish and pro-Israel circles in the UK, along with the broader influence of the family within Western elite circles, could have provided Khan with a different perspective on Israel. Khan’s support for Zac Goldsmith in the London mayoral election, even against a fellow Muslim candidate, Sadiq Khan, underscores his loyalty to the family and their broader network, which in turn have supported him in the past.

There have been reports suggesting that Imran Khan sent messages to Israeli officials through the Goldsmith family, signaling a potential willingness to consider normalizing relations between Pakistan and Israel and his willingness to moderate the religious discourse in Pakistan. If these reports are accurate, they suggest a level of flexibility in Khan’s approach to Israel that goes beyond the traditional Pakistani stance. This potential willingness to engage with Israel could be seen as a strategic move to align Pakistan’s foreign policy with the changing dynamics of the Middle East.

The Potential for Mediation and Regional Shifts

Imran Khan’s Western education and his ability to navigate between different cultural and political spheres position him uniquely as a potential mediator between Israel and Muslim states. His tenure as Prime Minister was marked by efforts to improve relations with key Middle Eastern players like Saudi Arabia and the UAE—both of which have shown signs of warming relations with Israel through the Abraham Accords and other normalization efforts.

Khan’s ability to bridge gaps between the West and the Islamic world could theoretically allow him to play a similar role in Israeli-Pakistani relations, if he were to return to power. His personal relationships and strategic outlook could be leveraged to mediate between Israel and other Muslim-majority countries, contributing to a broader regional realignment.

However, any attempt by Khan to shift Pakistan’s stance on Israel would be fraught with challenges. The political landscape in Pakistan is heavily influenced by religious organizations, many of which hold strong anti-Israel sentiments. Public opinion is also overwhelmingly against recognizing Israel, and any move towards normalization would likely face significant backlash from both the public and religious leaders.

Despite these challenges, Khan has previously shown a willingness to challenge the status quo, particularly in areas like education reform and women’s rights, where he has taken on powerful religious organizations. This suggests that he might be willing to take a more nuanced approach to Israel if he believes it could serve Pakistan’s broader strategic interests.

Speculation in a Rapidly Changing Middle East

While the idea of Imran Khan shaping Israeli-Pakistani relations remains speculative, it is not without merit given the rapidly changing geopolitical dynamics in the Middle East. The normalization of relations between Israel and several Arab states has shown that long-standing hostilities can be overcome through pragmatic diplomacy. These developments suggest that other Muslim-majority countries, including Pakistan, could potentially reevaluate their positions on Israel in the future.

The Middle East is in the midst of a significant realignment, driven by shifting alliances, economic interests, and the shared threat of extremism. In this context, Imran Khan’s potential role in shaping Pakistani-Israeli relations serves as a reminder that diplomacy often involves unconventional thinking and unexpected alliances. As the region continues to evolve, Pakistan’s foreign policy may also adapt in ways that were previously unthinkable, potentially opening the door to a new era of relations between Israel and the broader Islamic world.

Israel and its allies must do whatever they can to insure that Imran Khan is free again to participate in Pakistani politics and be the voice that channels moderation. Imran Khan’s unique position, relationships, and strategic thinking could influence Israeli-Pakistani relations, despite the significant challenges and opposition he would likely face in attempting such a shift.
These cartoons live in fools paradise
 

Okay. Tell me this. If tomorrow some israeli newspaper printed a story stating that current Pakistan COAS can prove to be an asset in establishing official ties among Pakistan and israel. What will be your response ? Will you care to hang the COAS ?

And Israel don't have to fight us. They can simply print stories in support of our national assets, and we ourselves will go against those assets and destroy them. Good plan. Go ahead.
 

Talal Chaudhry claims Imran Khan was launched into politics to protect Israeli interests

Israeli newspaper has now confirmed the PTI founder’s actions regarding Israeli interests, says PML-N leader
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Senior leader of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Senator Talal Chaudhry has alleged that the founder of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), Imran Khan, was introduced into Pakistani politics to safeguard Israeli interests.

Reacting to an article published in an Israeli newspaper, Chaudhry stated, "The Israeli newspaper has now confirmed the PTI founder’s actions regarding Israeli interests."

He further claimed that the Goldsmith family played a significant role in the PTI leader's election at Oxford University, adding that Jemima Goldsmith – Imran Khan’s former wife – has consistently supported him in difficult times.

In a separate statement, Chaudhry commented on PTI’s September 8 rally in Islamabad, cautioning the party against spreading unrest.

"If the law is violated, action will be taken. The PTI can hold 100 rallies, but the government will not allow a repeat of May 9," he said, referring to previous unrest linked to the party.

He also accused PTI of using rallies to seek an NRO.

The remarks followed a controversial article published in Israel, where the author described Imran Khan as the ideal figure to improve Pakistan-Israel relations.

The piece also claimed that the PTI leader had previously sent messages to Israel through the Goldsmith family.
Israel is much too smart to use a loose cannon like IK to advance their "interests" whatever they may be. In fact, IK was quite a failure to advance Pakistan's interests, assuming there are some.
 
So, those who are touting this third-rate blog as gospel truth and definitive proof of Imran Khan's ties with Zionists expect people to believe that the Israelis would be foolish enough to expose their supposed asset—who happens to be the most popular leader in Pakistan's history—at a time when his political opponents have utterly failed to undermine his popularity, and when he is poised to win in any free and fair election?

Just wondering how dense one has to be to swallow this new Establishment/PML-N nonsense? Ya saray Pakistan ko Patwari samajh rakha hai?
 



Why would putin give support to Kamal Harris, when he is rumored to have good relations with Donald trump?

So, that people will think russia supports Kamal Harris ?

So it might be to help trump win, when people will think kamala Harris is being supported by an enemy of the state?

A false flag operation?

Love for IK, in the public's heart, just doesn't seem to erode away ?

Be it cipher, tosha khana, £ 190 million, now this etc etc
 
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