PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

[Michael]

We need planes that can fly all the way to the Zionist entity, drop their bombs and come back safe. Is this one of such planes?
Needless to say this is a hypothetical question but maybe one day, some day, we will have the property dealers replaced with actual soldiers. Pakistanis can dream.

This is a technical discussion thread, do not discuss or extend any political topics in this thread!

The international community strictly controls long-range military aircraft with strike capability.
Currently known:
American and Russian strategic bombers. China's H6 barely reaches it, but there's still a big gap. Chinese and US long-range drones and experimental skyplanes.
Long-range operations using aerial refueling are not considered.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

The international community strictly controls long-range military aircraft with strike capability.

Hmm thats some weird shit. I didn't know.

 

[Michael]

Hmm thats some weird shit. I didn't know.

General knowledge of international weapons: (this is the default knowledge, not a legal standard, and may be controversial)
1、Short-range: <1000KM
2、Medium-range：1000~3000KM
3、Long-range：3000~8000KM
4、Intercontinental：>8000KM
This categorization applies to all long range weapon systems. It is mainly used for ballistic missiles and bombers.
Currently, the countries confirmed to have ICBMs are P5 + North Korea. India's Agni-5 (5000KM) is referred to as an ICBM by some, but does not meet international consensus and is not widely recognized.
Currently, the countries recognized as having Intercontinental bombers (often called strategic bombers) are the US and Russia. China's H6 has just enough range to meet intercontinental standards to be called an Intercontinental bomber, but is not fully recognized. ------I call the H6 a long-range bomber rather than an Intercontinental bomber. The future H20 is the real Intercontinental bomber.
Most of the world's fighters and front-line bombers have a maximum range in the “medium range” range.

Under the terms of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) treaty, arms exports are severely restricted. One of the most important provisions is that missiles with a range of more than 300 kilometers and a combat weight of more than 500 kilograms are prohibited from being exported. China is not a party to this treaty, but has publicly declared its support for it. Therefore, all of China's exported missiles and rockets have a maximum range that does not exceed this provision. ------China formally applied to join the MTCR in 2004, which was not approved, but China supports the MTCR. the Chinese export of DF3s to Saudi Arabia happened long before this.

 

[Deino]

Credit to you to admit it, and it shows maturity and wisdom you can change your mind when new facts present themselves. I was also in the same camp, I thought a time line of around 2030, but by the looks if things 2-3 years from now looks very feasible.

To be fair we mocked many users who claimed a shorter timeline, looks like their guesses were right

Thanks my friend and in fact I have no problems correcting my mind or even admitting faults, whenever new evidence is found, but the key word is EVIDENCE!

And while I admit it seems as if the program is indeed more advanced than I thought, my calculations are based on what is known and not on simple claims or "feelings" without evidence.

Anyway, we'll see hopefully more in November.

 

[Yasser76]

Thanks my friend and in fact I have no problems correcting my mind or even admitting faults, whenever new evidence is found, but the key word is EVIDENCE!

And while I admit it seems as if the program is indeed more advanced than I thought, my calculations are based on what is known and not on simple claims or "feelings" without evidence.

Anyway, we'll see hopefully more in November.

One thing for sure, is I think next 6-12 months will not be dull regarding revelations, photos, developments etc of PAF/J-31.....!

 

[Deino]

Don't I deserve a thumbs up for saying we may get J31 even earlier than December 26 ?

Sorry for missing your reply and yes, I revised my previous understanding, but why does or should this news mean a confirmation of getting them indeed earlier than December 2026?

But yes, for the moment

 

[MastanKhan]

Thanks my friend and in fact I have no problems correcting my mind or even admitting faults, whenever new evidence is found, but the key word is EVIDENCE!

And while I admit it seems as if the program is indeed more advanced than I thought, my calculations are based on what is known and not on simple claims or "feelings" without evidence.

Anyway, we'll see hopefully more in November.

Hi,

That happens when you only specialize about in making a picture book---.

I have commented many a times that you have no clue about weapons systems---their procurement mannerism---technology---because you have never delved into it ever---and now you admit that you don't know about it.

But you were happy to make fun of those who knew about it.

Now that you have admitted your shortcomings---then it is time that you get off your high horse and stop NEGATING those who may know a bit more---.

Admitting to your shortcomings on defense forum is like becoming a General in the military and then saying I did not know how to battle tanks---.

 

[Deino]

Hi,

That happens when you only specialize about in making a picture book---.

I have commented many a times that you have no clue about weapons systems---their procurement mannerism---technology---because you have never delved into it ever---and now you admit that you don't know about it.

But you were happy to make fun of those who knew about it.

Now that you have admitted your shortcomings---then it is time that you get off your high horse and stop NEGATING those who may know a bit more---.

Admitting to your shortcomings on defense forum is like becoming a General in the military and then saying I did not know how to battle tanks---.

BlahBlahBlah … and now you feel better old man?

 

[MastanKhan]

BlahBlahBlah … and now you feel better old man?

Hi,

Absolutely and all the time.

You sounded like the pakistani cricket team players---making excuses after losing a test match---" we are learning from our loss ".

 

[Yasser76]

Hi,

Absolutely and all the time.

You sounded like the pakistani cricket team players---making excuses after losing a test match---" we are learning from our loss ".

This was a great opportunity for you to be magnanimous and show some dignity. Shame you did not take up the opportunity.

 

[Yasser76]

Hi,

Magnanimous my foot---dignity my ar-se. Son--you been reading too many books. Revenge should be ruthless and brutal---no forgiveness.

You have been watching too many films. This is not Goodfellas, it's an internet forum, mostly full of kids like yourself.....

 

[Deino]

So far clearest image of a J-35 - here prototype no. 3503 - flight.

However my feeling tells me this is already an older image only released now since we‘ve seen J-35s already without the pitot & quite strangely the catapult bar is missing.

(Image via @年年有余V5168 from Weibo)

 

[Deino]

Wow … and another new image of the J-35 no. 350003.

Again this looks like an older image released only now but here the catapult bar is attached.

Is this the prelude to the public presentation in Zhuhai?

 

[UserUsing]

Wow … and another new image of the J-35 no. 350003.

Again this looks like an older image released only now but here the catapult bar is attached.

Is this the prelude to the public presentation in Zhuhai?

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Looking seski! The real pics - in normal colors look way different than the yellow and black ones we saw before!

 

[Deino]

Looking seski! The real pics - in normal colors look way different than the yellow and black ones we saw before!

Pardon, which "yellow and black ones we saw before!"?? I actually don't remember a single black one and even more so no yellow one!