Operation True Promise II - dozens of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel

[Shadihassan28]

They have no capability to destroy Iranian airfields.

Too far away and Iran has an integrated SAM defence network.

Let’s be honest they do have ability to do damage Iranians airfields but the Iranians will be waiting they hopefully will be prepared iran isn’t Lebanon or Syria but it’s much more vast and air defenses aren’t everywhere hopefully when they arrive iran will be ready and if they succeed than iran will send several hundred missiles to bases let’s see which Arab country opens their arms wide for them

 

[ghazi52]

Iran wanted to do real damage, and Israel's response may not be as restrained as last time​

Jeremy Bowen. International Editor, BBC News
Reporting from Jerusalem

Reuters
Iranian missiles seen intercepted by Israel's Iron Dome on 1 October

When Iran attacked Israel in April, it seemed like it was making a point – but Iran effectively gave notice of the attack in terms of how it carried it out, and everything was pretty much shot out of the air by Israeli and American defences.

This time around it’s different. The Iranians looked like they wanted to do some serious damage and were making a much more aggressive point.

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps put out an announcement saying that they were retaliating to the killings of senior leaders in Hamas and Hezbollah, and warned that if Israel retaliated, in turn they would strike back.

Last time around, Joe Biden said to Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu – “Take the win”, don’t carry out a big response - and they didn’t. This time around in Israel the mood is very different.

Look at the tweet from former prime minister Naftali Bennett last night, using very strong language, saying: “This is the greatest opportunity in 50 years to change the face of the Middle East.” He was arguing that Israel should go after Iran’s nuclear facilities, in order to “fatally cripple this terrorist regime”.

Now he’s not prime minister (although he is widely tipped to be a future one, so he was making a point to show he is tough) but it does reflect a certain mood in the country.

I would not rule out attacks by Israel on anything at the moment – nuclear sites, petrochemical facilities, anything that could cause damage to the Iranian economy.

The scenario always was that Iran had a forward defence in the shape of Hezbollah in Lebanon, with a massive arsenal of sophisticated weapons, to be used, in theory, if Iran and its nuclear facilities were attacked.

But in the last couple of weeks, Israel has decapitated the Hezbollah organisation, destroyed half of its weapons, according to American and Israeli authorities; and invaded Lebanon.

The deterrent Iran had, you could argue, is not just gone – it’s smashed into a thousand pieces. So I think the Israelis are feeling more free to act. And Joe Biden is moving another carrier battle group to the Mediterranean, signalling to the Iranians that if you hit Israel, you hit the US too.

This is why people were talking about the fear of the war spreading: the instability, the turbulence that comes from everything that’s been happening – now we are seeing it play out and it leaves very little room for diplomacy at this moment.

 

[RAJPUT]

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This should be a lesson to Liberal Muslims. These people are not your friends, as they won’t even bat an eye when killing you. Us muslims need to unite, putting the sectarian BS aside. Rougher times are coming, may Allah be with us.

 

[Falcon29]

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[UKBengali]

Let’s be honest they do have ability to do damage Iranians airfields but the Iranians will be waiting they hopefully will be prepared iran isn’t Lebanon or Syria but it’s much more vast and air defenses aren’t everywhere hopefully when they arrive iran will be ready and if they succeed than iran will send several hundred missiles to bases let’s see which Arab country opens their arms wide for them

One or two missiles or even a bomb or two after flying through the vast Iranian heartland.

What they cannot do is destroy any Iranian base as that takes too much ordnance.

Without US they can probably just about fire a few missiles from over Syria and then hope something hits.

Iran more than likely has every single important site heavily protected by its air defence systems.

You need to understand that Iran is 100x larger and has 10x the population.

It can absolutely shatter the entity to bits in a "shooting war" and so if they try something big they they need to know that next time 1000 missiles may land shattering key military, economic and infrastructure targets.

You should not underestimate the enemy but also not overestimate them. That is what they want in order to create "deterrence".

 

[Awwad]

They have no capability to destroy Iranian airfields.

Too far away and Iran has an integrated SAM defence network.

Actually Israelis wouldn't care about destroying iranian airfields. As Iranian airforce is not a direct threat against Israel and its not used in any of attacks against Israel.

Targetting nuclear sites will be huge escalation and Iran will respond with everything it got. So I think only legitimate target could be Ballistic missile / drones sites / manufacturing sites of these arsenal or silos. But Israelis won't do kind of attack that will further escalate. Just like Iran, Israel too don't want full blown war with Iran at this stage when they are getting busy with Hezbullah.

Lastly, integrated SAM network won't do much against Ballistic Missiles. Just like Israeli air defense couldn't stop majority of Iranian missiles. We have to admit that Israel's air defense is one of world's most advance & sophisticated. Intercepting high supersonic or hypersonic missiles is extremely difficult for any air defense of the world. Its like hitting a bullet with another bullet. However, yes SAMs can be useful against manned aircrafts & subsonic cruise missiles but not high rate of interception against BMs.

 

[PakAl]

They have no capability to destroy Iranian airfields.

Too far away and Iran has an integrated SAM defence network.

They can, just like Iran can bomb Israel despite Israeli advanced SAM network. Israel has the most advanced technology through Usa.

 

[Falcon29]

This should be a lesson to Liberal Muslims. These people are not your friends, as they won’t even bat an eye when killing you. Us muslims need to unite, putting the sectarian BS aside. Rougher times are coming, may Allah be with us.

This isn't about religion. Tons of people from all backgrounds are against what Israel is doing by dragging this war on and inflaming it. People don't want economic instability and woes.

Media however is very corporate and government/Zionist donor controlled.

 

[UKBengali]

Lastly, integrated SAM network won't do much against Ballistic Missiles. Just like Israeli air defense couldn't stop majority of Iranian missiles. We have to admit that Israel's air defense is one of world's most advance & sophisticated. Intercepting high supersonic or hypersonic missiles is extremely difficult for any air defense of the world. Its like hitting a bullet with another bullet. However, yes SAMs can be useful against manned aircrafts & subsonic cruise missiles but not high rate of interception against BMs.

True but the entity never 'jew'd' a ballistic missile force out of the USA.

By themselves their options to retaliate against Iran are very limited.

My reference to Iranians defences was more due to manned aircraft.

 

[PakAl]

Let’s be honest they do have ability to do damage Iranians airfields but the Iranians will be waiting they hopefully will be prepared iran isn’t Lebanon or Syria but it’s much more vast and air defenses aren’t everywhere hopefully when they arrive iran will be ready and if they succeed than iran will send several hundred missiles to bases let’s see which Arab country opens their arms wide for them

I think Israel will respond with airforce missile attacks on Iranian bases. It would be devastating for Iran if Israel attacks their nuclear plants so maybe usa will not give the go ahead. Iranian airforce has no capabilities against F16s, F15s and F35s, their SAM will be tested. If Israel carries on with this plan then Iran will fire 1000 missiles at Israel.

 

[UKBengali]

I think Israel will respond with airforce missile attacks on Iranian bases. It would be devastating for Iran if Israel attacks their nuclear plants so maybe usa will not give the go ahead. Iranian airforce has no capabilities against F16s, F15s and F35s, their SAM will be tested. If Israel carries on with this plan then Iran will fire 1000 missiles at Israel.

How are they going to get to Iran after travelling over 1000km and then hundreds of kms to these airbases?


Do you think those airbases will exist when they return after Iran lands wave after wave of ballistic missiles on them?

Please think of the logistics and the relative capabilities, with the entity and Iran being separated by vast distances and there are multiple countries inbetween.

As for Iranians air defences, F-16 and F-15 probably won't be a problem and we still do not know how many of the F-35s survived and whether that airbase is still functional.

 

[Awwad]

True but the entity never 'jew'd' a ballistic missile force out of the USA.

By themselves their options to retaliate against Iran are very limited.

My reference to Iranians defences was more due to manned aircraft.

Israelis do have Jericho BMs.

You are right, if Israel use manned aircrafts then its extremely difficult to target Iran because of distance and SAMs. So I think If Israel choose to retaliate then they can use BMs

 

[Thinking]

They have no capability to destroy Iranian airfields.

Too far away and Iran has an integrated SAM defence network.

They have America. Push came to shove, no defense or offense will help. What do you think, Iran will attack again? Israel afterall, will push hard in Lebanon.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

It's more than that and the number of wounded is high, the IDF is suffering carnage on the ground

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[UKBengali]

Israelis do have Jericho BMs.

You are right, if Israel use manned aircrafts then its extremely difficult to target Iran because of distance and SAMs. So I think If Israel choose to retaliate then they can use BMs

They don't have that many and it may only be a few dozen, at most say 1-200.

It would be absolutely stupid of the entity to fire these off as they will be fighting a side with maybe 100x more missiles of the same range.

In essence Zio-US defence shield is relatively useless against a country like Iran due to the sheer number and sophistication of the force it has. So in a ballistic missile "shooting war", only one side is ever going to come out on top.