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RAJPUT said:
So given that we are considered more of a tool to the Americans, what is in store for us after the need for this tool is up? What if they succeed at distancing Pakistan from China, essentially severing the one major ally of Pakistan? Do they come for us next? Because I do not see Pakistan serving a purpose on a global or even a regional scale in the ongoing or the next decade. The constant targeting of Chinese scientists and engineers in Pakistan using the BLF terror group, giving rise to the ethnocentric BS in multiple provinces at once and shockingly quick in recent times all point to the same thing. We are being isolated as the Indian butcher had said some years ago. May Allah give ghairat to our military and political leadership and give power to more loyal people.
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They do not need to war with Pakistan; keep it on a ventilator. As for what they will do to us, you will see the results in front of you.
 
Meengla said:
Offtopic.
Short answer: Pakistan's strategic importance is only increasing as the Israel-Arab-Iran conflicts further heats up. That's all I am going to say at this point.
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Pakistan has no role to play in the Middle East conflict; current thinking from higher-ups has been shy about responding aggressively. Managing India by itself is a task; opening another front will be suicide. Lastly, Pakistan has no spare capacity to do much, either.

The Americans will use Pakistan at will; that is no surprise; it will tow a particular line as it has before.
 
Masai said:
I see people on PDF scratching each other backs, that doesn't help.

Beating Mahsa Amini or other women on street doesn't make IRGC brave.

Israel humiliates Iran every 15 days (remember pager blowing up in hands of Iranian Ambassador ?) and they will surely humiliate Iran again and in a way that will go down in history.
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What's this got to do with this thread?
 
The moment imran khan said Pakistan would remain neutral in the Russia Ukraine conflict the pak army over threw him and reissued a statement against Russia.
You honestly think the pak army has the balls to speak out against americas masters. The moment they do this trust me they’ll send another low level diplomat to slap the shit out of asim munir like they did with bajwa
 
PakFactor said:
Pakistan has no role to play in the Middle East conflict; current thinking from higher-ups has been shy about responding aggressively. Managing India by itself is a task; opening another front will be suicide. Lastly, Pakistan has no spare capacity to do much, either.
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Pakistan, unlike all other countries, with the possible exception of Taiwan or Ukraine, has been facing a much larger, much more powerful adversary for decades. So, yes, Pakistan has to watch its eastern border very carefully; that task is made slightly easier by the stupid Modi regime antagonizing China but it is still a huge task.
In that sense, you are right until things change drastically in Pakistan's region and let's not forget that Pakistan is not in the Middle East but is still a part of the US CENTCOM.
PakFactor said:
The Americans will use Pakistan at will; that is no surprise; it will tow a particular line as it has before.
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Absolutely not. Quit being a defeatist all the time and about every conflict. Pakistan BLED America for 20 years in Afghanistan, leading to a humiliating defeat of the Americans in August 2021. The images of the Americans leaving in the middle of the night from Kabul in August 2021 are still new and not much talked about but one day they would be talked about like the helicopters flying off the American embassy in Vietnam.
Pakistan's failures are its economy and the political turmoil. But being an American vassal like Jordan, Egypt is not those failures.
 
Enough about Pakistan at this point. Basically, my message was/is to the foreigners not rubbish the Pakistani state over this conflict: Supporters of a certain political party in Pakistan have been misleading the foreign readers about the state of Pakistan in cahoots with the Indians all over the the blogspace.

Back to the topic. Per some video I posted just above, the THAAD system is supposed to provide a cover to Israel to target Iran. But Matthew Hoh said that maybe the THAAD was a replacement system for something which was destroyed by the recent Iran stikes on Israel.
And in this video Larry C. Johnson is basically rubbishing even the importance of the recent THAAD deployment:

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Intelligence data shows that Turkey in coordination with Israel will soon activate the Syrian rebells against Iran and HZ
 
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Meengla said:
Pakistan BLED America for 20 years in Afghanistan, leading to a humiliating defeat of the Americans in August 2021. The images of the Americans leaving in the middle of the night from Kabul in August 2021 are still new and not much talked about but one day they would be talked about like the helicopters flying off the American embassy in Vietnam.
Pakistan's failures are its economy and the political turmoil. But being an American vassal like Jordan, Egypt is not those failures.
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I usually agree with you on most things you say, except this--that somehow the Pakistan Army is outwitting the whole world for the greater glory of Islam and Pakistan.

The reality is that they're snakes and snakes bite everyone, including their benefactors. If they're the ones who kicked the Americans out of Afghanistan, then the Afghans should love them and the Americans should hate them. But it is the opposite. The Afghans consider the Pakistan Army as their enemy. So, its more likely that they were fooling the Afghans and providing info. to the Americans.

Meanwhile the Pakistan Army has been ruling Pakistan for almost all its history and the country is a basket case, poorer than Bangladesh. What can be more treacherous than destroying your own country?

I would advise Muslims of other countries to watch their backs when dealing with this entity.
 
Spain has rejected request from Israel to remove the United Nation Peace force from their designated areas in Lebanon

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With the upcoming joint attack of Israel and Turkey/Turkish rebel groups of Syria, war will be expanded further.

Iraqi reserves will likely join the fronts.

From day 1 of this war, we were expecting this coordinated Israeli-Turkish attack on Syria.
 
Meengla said:
Pakistan, unlike all other countries, with the possible exception of Taiwan or Ukraine, has been facing a much larger, much more powerful adversary for decades. So, yes, Pakistan has to watch its eastern border very carefully; that task is made slightly easier by the stupid Modi regime antagonizing China but it is still a huge task.
In that sense, you are right until things change drastically in Pakistan's region and let's not forget that Pakistan is not in the Middle East but is still a part of the US CENTCOM.


Absolutely not. Quit being a defeatist all the time and about every conflict. Pakistan BLED America for 20 years in Afghanistan, leading to a humiliating defeat of the Americans in August 2021. The images of the Americans leaving in the middle of the night from Kabul in August 2021 are still new and not much talked about but one day they would be talked about like the helicopters flying off the American embassy in Vietnam.
Pakistan's failures are its economy and the political turmoil. But being an American vassal like Jordan, Egypt is not those failures.
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I need to point out a slight correction: I'm more pessimistic than a defeatist. I still have little hope if one takes the small window of opportunity.

Also, I concur with @Tamerlane position on Afghanistan.
 
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