Vote Dr. Jill Stein as a protest against the Zionist Israeli Genocide of the Palestinians

[Cookie Monster]

It’s the democrat votes more likely to protest vote in this election. Kamala has made overtures to black men voters but doesn’t think she needs to with people protesting the war in Palestine. Should she lose and it comes down to Gaza, the democrats will get hostile at first but then will eventually have to accept they can’t do nothing.

And do u think Trump is any better? Did u forget that it was under Trump’s rule that US changed its longstanding policy of refusing to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital…
…and instead he publicly declared that US would recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
This was without the ongoing war…he just capitulated(whether bribes were involved or any business deals via his son in law…or whether it was just his own decision not influenced by anything…I don’t know)
…he couldn’t even point to an excuse of hostages or whatever that has lately been used to gain sympathy towards Israel and justify its actions.
So u can only imagine what kind of a freehand he would give to Israel using the narrative that is often portrayed in the western media.

when u are raised again before Allah, how would u answer, if he asked did u stand with the innocent and persecuted or did u favor the persecutor… voting for kamila or trump is favoring the persecutor.. its your choice how u deal with Allah that day

Bro for real? Do u really think that I’m in favor of the massacre that has been going on? Of course not…any person(whether Muslim or not) should be against it. But I’m a realist…and I know that as a middle class average person(without millions of dollars to bribe/influence or without any sort of political power/influence)…my voice does not matter.
Also part of being a realist is that a third party candidate isn’t going to win…despite protest voting. So if either Trump or Kamala is going to come to power…what I really have to look at…is who will be the least horrible when it comes to their foreign policy regarding Israel and Palestine.
The only thing Kamala has going for her in this case is she hasn’t yet been tested(as in held power and shown through her actions where she stands)…whereas Trump has(read above).
…and if u must know I have tried protest voting before but to no avail.

Choosing the lesser of two evils, is still choosing evil at the end.

If Jill Stein wins 5% of the vote, under US Law, she is entitled to Federal Funds and an equal platform as the other two parties. We can make it happen.

The U.S. law that addresses the eligibility of third-party candidates for federal funds in presidential elections is part of the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA), specifically under the Presidential Election Campaign Fund Act (26 U.S.C. § 9004).

According to the law:

1. A third-party candidate is eligible for federal funds if they receive at least 5% of the popular vote in the general election. This threshold qualifies them for retroactive public funding for the next election cycle. This means they would receive federal funding after the election in which they achieve this 5% threshold, which they can use for future campaign activities.
2. Major party candidates (from the Democratic or Republican parties) are automatically eligible for federal matching funds for their primary campaigns and receive general election funding upfront, but third-party or independent candidates must first reach that 5% threshold before becoming eligible for future funds.

This system is meant to help smaller parties or independent candidates gain access to some public funding but only after showing significant public support.

This is fine and all…but as I have said above…I have tried protest voting and it doesn’t really work other than getting the opponent elected.

The democrats wouldn’t really care as much if they lost the elections(bcuz of protest voting)…nor would the republicans if they lost…
…bcuz no matter if u r in power or sitting on the sidelines…u get money(through superpacs, insider trading, lobbies, etc) anyways. How many democratic candidates do u see that had their mansions go into foreclosure bcuz they lost? How many republican candidates do u see that have had their yachts taken away bcuz they lost?
U would be hard pressed to find a politician(at any level) who is clean. It hardly matters to them to do the right thing…what matters is where the money is coming from…those giving them the money dictate what they must do.

It’s only a democracy in name…it has long been a plutocracy. Just look at the recent scandal of the Supreme Court justice that is out in the open…of him accepting bribes…is anything being done about it?
Or go back a bit…look at all the political appointees Trump put forth simply bcuz they were some of the biggest donors of the Republican Party. Look at the interview(qualification hearing) of Betsy Devos…check her qualifications and see for urself if she was qualified to head the department of education or was it the millions her family had donated over the years.
Before that…look at Chris Christie…the governor of New Jersey(then running for president)…even while speaking in favor of Israel he mentioned occupied territories…and for that he had to apologize to his donors(of course Jewish and wealthy). Did Chris Christie even have a remote chance at winning? No…
Chris Christie apology

…the lesson here is that…money is thrown at all…to hedge their bets…so no matter who sits in the seat when the music stops…u know he/she will do ur(the ones throwing the money) bidding.

In conclusion…whether we like it or not…either Trump…or Kamala will come to power…all we can do with our meager voting power…is try to analyze both(what they have said and what they have done) and try to bring the least worse to power…
…then hope for the best.

@Oscar
Would like to hear ur opinion in this case.

 

[j_hungary]

And do u think Trump is any better? Did u forget that it was under Trump’s rule that US changed its longstanding policy of refusing to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital…
…and instead he publicly declared that US would recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
This was without the ongoing war…he just capitulated(whether bribes were involved or any business deals via his son in law…or whether it was just his own decision not influenced by anything…I don’t know)
…he couldn’t even point to an excuse of hostages or whatever that has lately been used to gain sympathy towards Israel and justify its actions.
So u can only imagine what kind of a freehand he would give to Israel using the narrative that is often portrayed in the western media.

Bro for real? Do u really think that I’m in favor of the massacre that has been going on? Of course not…any person(whether Muslim or not) should be against it. But I’m a realist…and I know that as a middle class average person(without millions of dollars to bribe/influence or without any sort of political power/influence)…my voice does not matter.
Also part of being a realist is that a third party candidate isn’t going to win…despite protest voting. So if either Trump or Kamala is going to come to power…what I really have to look at…is who will be the least horrible when it comes to their foreign policy regarding Israel and Palestine.
The only thing Kamala has going for her in this case is she hasn’t yet been tested(as in held power and shown through her actions where she stands)…whereas Trump has(read above).
…and if u must know I have tried protest voting before but to no avail.

This is fine and all…but as I have said above…I have tried protest voting and it doesn’t really work other than getting the opponent elected.

The democrats wouldn’t really care as much if they lost the elections(bcuz of protest voting)…nor would the republicans if they lost…
…bcuz no matter if u r in power or sitting on the sidelines…u get money(through superpacs, insider trading, lobbies, etc) anyways. How many democratic candidates do u see that had their mansions go into foreclosure bcuz they lost? How many republican candidates do u see that have had their yachts taken away bcuz they lost?
U would be hard pressed to find a politician(at any level) who is clean. It hardly matters to them to do the right thing…what matters is where the money is coming from…those giving them the money dictate what they must do.

It’s only a democracy in name…it has long been a plutocracy. Just look at the recent scandal of the Supreme Court justice that is out in the open…of him accepting bribes…is anything being done about it?
Or go back a bit…look at all the political appointees Trump put forth simply bcuz they were some of the biggest donors of the Republican Party. Look at the interview(qualification hearing) of Betsy Devos…check her qualifications and see for urself if she was qualified to head the department of education or was it the millions her family had donated over the years.
Before that…look at Chris Christie…the governor of New Jersey(then running for president)…even while speaking in favor of Israel he mentioned occupied territories…and for that he had to apologize to his donors(of course Jewish and wealthy). Did Chris Christie even have a remote chance at winning? No…
Chris Christie apology

…the lesson here is that…money is thrown at all…to hedge their bets…so no matter who sits in the seat when the music stops…u know he/she will do ur bidding.

In conclusion…whether we like it or not…either Trump…or Kamala will come to power…all we can do with our meager voting power…is try to analyze both(what they have said and what they have done) and try to bring the least worse to power…
…then hope for the best.

@Oscar
Would like to hear ur opinion in this case.

Didn't Trump just tweeted that he wants Netanyahu to end the war by bombing Iran Nuclear site? Or am I just imagining things here?

 

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And do u think Trump is any better? Did u forget that it was under Trump’s rule that US changed its longstanding policy of refusing to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital…
…and instead he publicly declared that US would recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
This was without the ongoing war…he just capitulated(whether bribes were involved or any business deals via his son in law…or whether it was just his own decision not influenced by anything…I don’t know)
…he couldn’t even point to an excuse of hostages or whatever that has lately been used to gain sympathy towards Israel and justify its actions.

It isn't about Trump better or worse than Kamala. It's about making your vote count and punishing genocide irrespective of if Trump wins.

Either way Trump or Kamala they are both bad for Palestinians.

Vote Jill Stein and express your outrage or you will have the blood of the Palestinians on you. You would have literally voted in a genocide enabler.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Didn't Trump just tweeted that he wants Netanyahu to end the war by bombing Iran Nuclear site? Or am I just imagining things here?

I don’t care for what someone says…I care for what they do…that’s what shows ur character.
This is true in general and especially true for a politician(bcuz we all know that they will say anything to get ur vote). And Trump is definitely a known liar.

So yes…I don’t care about what he is saying…I’m going to judge him by what he has done when he had the chance(as in was in power).

 

[j_hungary]

I don’t care for what someone says…I care for what they do…that’s what shows ur character.
This is true in general and especially true for a politician(bcuz we all know that they will say anything to get ur vote). And Trump is definitely a known liar.

So yes…I don’t care about what he is saying…I’m going to judge him by what he has done when he had the chance(as in was in power).

Well, Trump needed Israel to escalate to pull Jewish vote to his side, he is going to get a lot of rhetoric on the issue

GOP tho, that's another issue

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nikki-haley-writes-finish-them-israeli-artillery-shell-drawing-criticism-2024-05-29/

 

[Cookie Monster]

It isn't about Trump better or worse than Kamala. It's about making your vote count and punishing genocide irrespective of if Trump wins.

Either way Trump or Kamala they are both bad for Palestinians.

Vote Jill Stein and express your outrage or you will have the blood of the Palestinians on you. You would have literally voted in a genocide enabler.

Let’s imagine this scenario…if I vote for Jill Stein…
…realistically we all know her chances of winning are close to zero.
Others like me do the same protest vote…
…and the thin margin that Kamala might have won by…instead she ends up losing. Trump comes to power…thanks to this protest vote…and doesn’t do anything to stop the genocide…who would u blame then? Would u blame the protest voters who could’ve brought Kamala to power instead…but didn’t do it due to protest voting?

Or vice versa…Trump loses due to protest voting…and Kamala comes to power…she ends up being horrible…would u blame the protest voters for not having elected Trump?

Protest voting would matter if it had any potential to change anything…IMO it’s pointless if it would achieve nothing.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Well, Trump needed Israel to escalate to pull Jewish vote to his side, he is going to get a lot of rhetoric on the issue

GOP tho, that's another issue

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nikki-haley-writes-finish-them-israeli-artillery-shell-drawing-criticism-2024-05-29/

GOP and Trump overtly support Israel…Democrats covertly support Israel…they feed u the BS that “we want peace…we want both sides to deescalate…we want both sides to show restraint and work through dialogue” while at the same time not doing anything(even though they have the power to do so)

 

[j_hungary]

GOP and Trump overtly support Israel…Democrats covertly support Israel…they feed u the BS that “we want peace…we want both sides to deescalate…we want both sides to show restraint and work through dialogue” while at the same time not doing anything(even though they have the power to do so)

I know.

The issue here is this isn't a topic most American care. The top issues no matter which poll you ask is economy, immigration, abortion. Which is why voting on either party will not change the calculus of this or I could say, any election. As I said in the British Election back in July, people who vote in this should vote for stuff that it will impact their life, not some life 7000 miles away.

 

[Cookie Monster]

I know.

The issue here is this isn't a topic most American care. The top issues no matter which poll you ask is economy, immigration, abortion. Which is why voting on either party will not change the calculus of this or I could say, any election. As I said in the British Election back in July, people who vote in this should vote for stuff that it will impact their life, not some life 7000 miles away.

while the majority doesn’t care…it’s true…
There are still some with a conscience that will not stand for genocide(and their government’s support of it) no matter how far away it is.
I am one of those ppl…
…the only thing I’m debating here with others…is the fact that Jill Stein isn’t a realistic option…as she will not win.

So better to use ur vote to bring forth the candidate that is the least worse. Other than our meager voting power…we the average people have no other means to bring about any real change…
…the only real change can be brought about with wealth(which we the average ppl lack greatly). I have some examples of this in my long winded post above…like that of Chris Christie apologizing to his wealthy donor for using a word not to his donor’s liking.
So unless we happen to stumble into billions of dollars on our way home…just use ur vote for the least horrible person(who has a realistic chance of being in power).

 

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Let’s imagine this scenario…if I vote for Jill Stein…
…realistically we all know her chances of winning are close to zero.
Others like me do the same protest vote…
…and the thin margin that Kamala might have won by…instead she ends up losing. Trump comes to power…thanks to this protest vote…and doesn’t do anything to stop the genocide…who would u blame then? Would u blame the protest voters who could’ve brought Kamala to power instead…but didn’t do it due to protest voting?

Or vice versa…Trump loses due to protest voting…and Kamala comes to power…she ends up being horrible…would u blame the protest voters for not having elected Trump?

Protest voting would matter if it had any potential to change anything…IMO it’s pointless if it would achieve nothing.

It isn't about Trump winning or losing.

It's about making yourself count. If a genocide doesn't punish the incumbent then nothing will for the Muslims. They will always take you for granted. You will not count. Hypothetically: If the Israeli had nuked Mecca with a bomb provided by the Biden-Kamala administration with Kamala expressing no remorse.... Will you still vote for her? If yes, you only do it for your own selfish reasons of self preservation.

It isn't about Jill Stein winning either. It's about those who supported the genocide losing.

Vote Jill Stein & let them know your vote isn't taken for granted.

Think about it.

 

[Oscar]

And do u think Trump is any better? Did u forget that it was under Trump’s rule that US changed its longstanding policy of refusing to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital…
…and instead he publicly declared that US would recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
This was without the ongoing war…he just capitulated(whether bribes were involved or any business deals via his son in law…or whether it was just his own decision not influenced by anything…I don’t know)
…he couldn’t even point to an excuse of hostages or whatever that has lately been used to gain sympathy towards Israel and justify its actions.
So u can only imagine what kind of a freehand he would give to Israel using the narrative that is often portrayed in the western media.

Bro for real? Do u really think that I’m in favor of the massacre that has been going on? Of course not…any person(whether Muslim or not) should be against it. But I’m a realist…and I know that as a middle class average person(without millions of dollars to bribe/influence or without any sort of political power/influence)…my voice does not matter.
Also part of being a realist is that a third party candidate isn’t going to win…despite protest voting. So if either Trump or Kamala is going to come to power…what I really have to look at…is who will be the least horrible when it comes to their foreign policy regarding Israel and Palestine.
The only thing Kamala has going for her in this case is she hasn’t yet been tested(as in held power and shown through her actions where she stands)…whereas Trump has(read above).
…and if u must know I have tried protest voting before but to no avail.

This is fine and all…but as I have said above…I have tried protest voting and it doesn’t really work other than getting the opponent elected.

The democrats wouldn’t really care as much if they lost the elections(bcuz of protest voting)…nor would the republicans if they lost…
…bcuz no matter if u r in power or sitting on the sidelines…u get money(through superpacs, insider trading, lobbies, etc) anyways. How many democratic candidates do u see that had their mansions go into foreclosure bcuz they lost? How many republican candidates do u see that have had their yachts taken away bcuz they lost?
U would be hard pressed to find a politician(at any level) who is clean. It hardly matters to them to do the right thing…what matters is where the money is coming from…those giving them the money dictate what they must do.

It’s only a democracy in name…it has long been a plutocracy. Just look at the recent scandal of the Supreme Court justice that is out in the open…of him accepting bribes…is anything being done about it?
Or go back a bit…look at all the political appointees Trump put forth simply bcuz they were some of the biggest donors of the Republican Party. Look at the interview(qualification hearing) of Betsy Devos…check her qualifications and see for urself if she was qualified to head the department of education or was it the millions her family had donated over the years.
Before that…look at Chris Christie…the governor of New Jersey(then running for president)…even while speaking in favor of Israel he mentioned occupied territories…and for that he had to apologize to his donors(of course Jewish and wealthy). Did Chris Christie even have a remote chance at winning? No…
Chris Christie apology

…the lesson here is that…money is thrown at all…to hedge their bets…so no matter who sits in the seat when the music stops…u know he/she will do ur(the ones throwing the money) bidding.

In conclusion…whether we like it or not…either Trump…or Kamala will come to power…all we can do with our meager voting power…is try to analyze both(what they have said and what they have done) and try to bring the least worse to power…
…then hope for the best.

@Oscar
Would like to hear ur opinion in this case.

Rock and a hard place

I’ll give you the math in my head

1. Entire US establishment and political leaders on both sides bow to AIPAC and the cultured narrative they created through a combination of bought or planted evangelical preachers talking about the need for Jewish people to resettle Israel(greater Israel) that will be the trigger for Christ’s return and rapture/salvation of Christians while the earth burns in the apocalypse (presumably with the jews and muslims and all included). This has translated to Hollywood as well in terms of constantly emphasizing Jewish victimhood (deserved from a historical context) but also exaggerating anti semitism and Jewish numbers as and when needed even though Anti-semitism in Christians(technically rightly so based on Christ’s life) was indeed a serious issue and the cause of justification for the holocaust (a truly horrific event).

2) This also translates to a generally higher dominance of Jewish people controlling pillars of capitalism. Not technically a “conspiracy” because they culturally encourage it based on historical background as a smart community investment - nothing to blame them for just as you cannot blame Sikhs for dominating trucking in Canada or Patel Motels. The only conspiracy here could be the Jewish people control a lot of wealth transfer and laws surrounding it which they mold to their community benefit - the same way certain Indian communities now top leadership in Tech and other MNCs by helping their community. Once again - a smart move - not some illuminati conspiracy.

3) Biden like all US politicians believes in AIPAC and is beholden to them so even if many millennial state dept officials tell him Israel is committing genocide after apartheid his options are limited in terms of support he needs for any other policy moves including that on Ukraine. Kamala Harris is going to inherit this problem and pretty much be a lame duck president due to the dominance provided to evangelical conservatives in republican form after the shocks of 2008 recession (associated with Liberal and ironically accused of being jew dominated wall street) and then covid-19(believed to be a liberal conspiracy- also ironically associated with Jewish people)

5) Trump is a selfish egomaniac snake oil salesman - salesman to his core selling himself. In that, he peddles whatever is popular - be it the newest neighborhood in NyC or the shittiest in case he wants to repaint it and make millions , models, Boxing - and packages it for the audience in a fast talking rambling format. He has done that for 40 years now. He is a racist through and through but a practical one in that he will worn with anyone for his benefit - to surround himself with what he thinks is his image of success - essentially if Gorden Gecko was less classy and into scandinavian chicks.

This also means if he gets to keep the jewel of his eye Ivanka happy by giving Kushner greater Israel he will, if he gets evangelicals calling him nearly christ - he will take that and breed it - and Imran Khan too because he has associated him with the Goldstiens(whom he knows as gilded UK royalty) and Goldie Hawn(whom he thinks was hot) - until it doesn’t suit him.

Right now, he wants to get elected and then he will ok anything to go beyond that fame to grab accolades globally. If that means okaying Bibis slaughter of Palestinian people - so be it - but then he will grant Saudis reconstruction rights along with other gilf countries and build both Gaza with whatever Palestinian remains along with fancy new beach settlements for wannabe rich American Israelis.

He will also tell the Iranians he will nuke them and they will calculate it’s not worth it to go toe to toe with a true madman.

At the same time he will stop the conflict in Ukraine but cutting aid immediately but wont stop anything for Israel to keep the evangelicals and also dems on the side happy - everyone wins there even if some get upset about Ukraine.

Kamala Harris on the other hand wont really rein Bibi in either but she might make statements as Israel continues to fight it out but she might reduce aid for a while.

So the best chance the Palestinians have is not in America but in Europe and also through GCC(which regardless of the accusations thrown at them are doing whatever they can to make things happen) and eventually also Iran which can keep a Hezbollah alive to point a gun at Israel but let GCC “resolve” the Palestinian issue to where they have opportunity within a quasi “state”.

Now

For me -

Under Kamala I wont see much in the way of changes to fiscal situation - perhaps might even get worse in the anti China push from the state policies.

Moreover, the massive LGBTQ nonsense coming from this progressive craphole makes me fear for my child along with society as a whole while the US military is filled with transgender cucks that wont really be able to fight in a true combat scenario.

With Trump / this gets curbed - the military doesn’t pay for sex changes - interest rate drops even if some macroeconomic situation gets tanked a few years in the future but free market may open up more due to him suddenly deciding (read he gets a message). That may also mean ridiculous announcements against Muslims and
Minorities - immigration will be near hell on any front - but things will get shoved into the legel system which the republicans will then truly try to destroy BUT before they can Gen Z will start voting them out of power and the cycle will go on.

From a priority perspective - my family comes first so I will vote for Trump - I am a secured citizen and the courts will prevent Stephen millar and project 2025 from really doing anything meaningful to legal migrants.

From a humanitarian perspective - I know my taxes without my say are still unfortunately paying for the deaths of my Palestinian brothers and sisters / but then, when my actual kith and kin - not in the US which they are - but in Pakistan where I came from - are in terrible conditions and practically enslaved - that is my priority from both a charity perspective and help perspective. And I will try to incite change there while trying to pay as little taxes as possible via the plentiful loopholes the US has for people which Trump will make even easier - so that I contribute less to the Israeli genocide.

 

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Rock and a hard place

I’ll give you the math in my head

1. Entire US establishment and political leaders on both sides bow to AIPAC and the cultured narrative they created through a combination of bought or planted evangelical preachers talking about the need for Jewish people to resettle Israel(greater Israel) that will be the trigger for Christ’s return and rapture/salvation of Christians while the earth burns in the apocalypse (presumably with the jews and muslims and all included). This has translated to Hollywood as well in terms of constantly emphasizing Jewish victimhood (deserved from a historical context) but also exaggerating anti semitism and Jewish numbers as and when needed even though Anti-semitism in Christians(technically rightly so based on Christ’s life) was indeed a serious issue and the cause of justification for the holocaust (a truly horrific event).

2) This also translates to a generally higher dominance of Jewish people controlling pillars of capitalism. Not technically a “conspiracy” because they culturally encourage it based on historical background as a smart community investment - nothing to blame them for just as you cannot blame Sikhs for dominating trucking in Canada or Patel Motels. The only conspiracy here could be the Jewish people control a lot of wealth transfer and laws surrounding it which they mold to their community benefit - the same way certain Indian communities now top leadership in Tech and other MNCs by helping their community. Once again - a smart move - not some illuminati conspiracy.

3) Biden like all US politicians believes in AIPAC and is beholden to them so even if many millennial state dept officials tell him Israel is committing genocide after apartheid his options are limited in terms of support he needs for any other policy moves including that on Ukraine. Kamala Harris is going to inherit this problem and pretty much be a lame duck president due to the dominance provided to evangelical conservatives in republican form after the shocks of 2008 recession (associated with Liberal and ironically accused of being jew dominated wall street) and then covid-19(believed to be a liberal conspiracy- also ironically associated with Jewish people)

5) Trump is a selfish egomaniac snake oil salesman - salesman to his core selling himself. In that, he peddles whatever is popular - be it the newest neighborhood in NyC or the shittiest in case he wants to repaint it and make millions , models, Boxing - and packages it for the audience in a fast talking rambling format. He has done that for 40 years now. He is a racist through and through but a practical one in that he will worn with anyone for his benefit - to surround himself with what he thinks is his image of success - essentially if Gorden Gecko was less classy and into scandinavian chicks.

This also means if he gets to keep the jewel of his eye Ivanka happy by giving Kushner greater Israel he will, if he gets evangelicals calling him nearly christ - he will take that and breed it - and Imran Khan too because he has associated him with the Goldstiens(whom he knows as gilded UK royalty) and Goldie Hawn(whom he thinks was hot) - until it doesn’t suit him.

Right now, he wants to get elected and then he will ok anything to go beyond that fame to grab accolades globally. If that means okaying Bibis slaughter of Palestinian people - so be it - but then he will grant Saudis reconstruction rights along with other gilf countries and build both Gaza with whatever Palestinian remains along with fancy new beach settlements for wannabe rich American Israelis.

He will also tell the Iranians he will nuke them and they will calculate it’s not worth it to go toe to toe with a true madman.

At the same time he will stop the conflict in Ukraine but cutting aid immediately but wont stop anything for Israel to keep the evangelicals and also dems on the side happy - everyone wins there even if some get upset about Ukraine.

Kamala Harris on the other hand wont really rein Bibi in either but she might make statements as Israel continues to fight it out but she might reduce aid for a while.

So the best chance the Palestinians have is not in America but in Europe and also through GCC(which regardless of the accusations thrown at them are doing whatever they can to make things happen) and eventually also Iran which can keep a Hezbollah alive to point a gun at Israel but let GCC “resolve” the Palestinian issue to where they have opportunity within a quasi “state”.

Now

For me -

Under Kamala I wont see much in the way of changes to fiscal situation - perhaps might even get worse in the anti China push from the state policies.

Moreover, the massive LGBTQ nonsense coming from this progressive craphole makes me fear for my child along with society as a whole while the US military is filled with transgender cucks that wont really be able to fight in a true combat scenario.

With Trump / this gets curbed - the military doesn’t pay for sex changes - interest rate drops even if some macroeconomic situation gets tanked a few years in the future but free market may open up more due to him suddenly deciding (read he gets a message). That may also mean ridiculous announcements against Muslims and
Minorities - immigration will be near hell on any front - but things will get shoved into the legel system which the republicans will then truly try to destroy BUT before they can Gen Z will start voting them out of power and the cycle will go on.

From a priority perspective - my family comes first so I will vote for Trump - I am a secured citizen and the courts will prevent Stephen millar and project 2025 from really doing anything meaningful to legal migrants.

From a humanitarian perspective - I know my taxes without my say are still unfortunately paying for the deaths of my Palestinian brothers and sisters / but then, when my actual kith and kin - not in the US which they are - but in Pakistan where I came from - are in terrible conditions and practically enslaved - that is my priority from both a charity perspective and help perspective. And I will try to incite change there while trying to pay as little taxes as possible via the plentiful loopholes the US has for people which Trump will make even easier - so that I contribute less to the Israeli genocide.

I believe the American Muslim has to think beyond this election cycle with respect to an acceptable candidate.

If the American Muslim electorate fails to punish the genocide, they cement the idea with the democratic party that this Muslim demographic constituency is irrelevant and they will vote for us irrespective. They will continue to fear the Israeli Lobby.

But if they lose because the vote went to a 3rd party,.they will be forced to listen to the next time round.

Additionally, how sad would it be that life long Democrats from the Left, Christian, Jewish, Atheist, or whatever are voting for Jill Stein because they are disgusted by the Biden-Kamala Genocide... But the sheep-like Muslim-American is still going ahead voting for Democrats because of their Trump phobia. How sad.

 

[Cookie Monster]

It isn't about Trump winning or losing.

It's about making yourself count. If a genocide doesn't punish the incumbent then nothing will for the Muslims. They will always take you for granted. You will not count. Hypothetically: If the Israeli had nuked Mecca with a bomb provided by the Biden-Kamala administration with Kamala expressing no remorse.... Will you still vote for her? If yes, you only do it for your own selfish reasons of self preservation.

It isn't about Jill Stein winning either. It's about those who supported the genocide losing.

Vote Jill Stein & let them know your vote isn't taken for granted.

Think about it.

My man…I appreciate the effort u r putting in by tagging me in these videos…and trying to put some sense into me(per ur perspective).
…but what u r not grasping is that absolutely nothing would come from me or even thousands like me voting for Jill Stein.

Do u think I’m thrilled about voting for either of these two options(Trump or Kamala)? No…I don’t like either of them.
But one of them is bound to come to power…protest vote or not…and both of them are sold out.

U only think u and I and others like us would be punishing them by not voting for them…but jokes on us…as they will still be raking in millions(win or lose)…
…through AIPAC(Israeli lobby) or through other lobbies(basically a large majority of evangelical Christians support Israel)…they will be getting loads of money. So while u and I think we are “sticking it to the man”…they(Trump/Kamala) will be laughing all the way to the bank.

I honestly was thinking about sitting this one out…as in not voting…but then again what would that accomplish? One of them would definitely come to power…
…read the post by @Oscar

US has had a long history of supporting Israel bcuz the evangelical Christians think that Jesus would return once they have rebuilt the temple(never mind the fact that per their prophecies he would be killing Jews who would follow the antichrist)…
…if u watch old videos of Doctor Israr Ahmed…he was already pointing that out back in the 1990s…
…so yes US will keep supporting Israel(whether it is Trump or Kamala) and yes it is going to be either Trump or Kamala…
…all I was saying is to pick the lesser evil of the two…bcuz those are the only choices for peasants like us.