Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Developereo]

No. Never a good idea to kill anyone without due process or declaration of war. One can see that the consequences have proved it quite convincingly. Support for October 7 has come down among Gazans.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-poll-finds-big-drop-support-oct-7-attack-2024-09-17/

It may go down lower in 2025.

By that definition, Israel has been committing terrorism for the last 75+ years, so why single out October 7 which is merely one instance in a string of tit-for-tat?

 

[Developereo]

For Iran, only way for Israel to beat Iran is usa to beat iran...but new blocks are in phase of deep negotiation, right now.

Iran should be careful of Russia which is also under deep Zionist control. The wealth of post-USSR Russia is highly concentrated in the hands of Zionists while many ordinary Russians are worse off.

Only China is free of Zionist control ... so far.

 

[vmro]

Hi,

The USA is NOT going down soon---.

There is a big difference between USA & USSR---.

Americans do not have a powerful enemy that can reach them and destroy them.

Secondly---american public is overall a happy public---still a land of great opportunity & freedom.

There is still law and order---there is justice---puiblic stands behind their govt.

Now just stating that the Israeli fate is hooked up with USA is not enough---.

The problem here lies with the Iranian Ayotollahs---. They thought their conviction was a recipe for a win---.

The shia sunni hatred they have spread---creating proxy wars---. Playing lebanese---palestnians---yemenies as their frontmen to propagate their ideology---.

What has come down on iran is of its own making---.

All these young iranian warrior chest thumping on this forum---have no access to the targeted areas and can't even come close to the barricades---.

There are different kind of iranian members here---

1. those who will never know what truly happened---as they have no access
2. those who have access yet they are afraid to disclose anything on the forum out of fear of persecution
3. those who know but will not disclose
4. those who have passed onto the next world

Iran got what it asked for---a war with israel---now they are waiting for it to go to higher levels--then then salvation may arrive.

Till then---.

America will probably stay superpower for centuries, serious, thay have no concurrents in American continent and from other heartland powers are protected by ocean. Zone of influence whole South and North American continent...

But that is not subject here, American agenda now is to left many global regias, but to go with style...by economical projections, they can leave position ow global policeman, back to Monroe doctrine, and to create increased gdp, and for military complex decreased spending they are not in danger...


But Iran has some own way....It wIsrael is enigma, maybe shock-therapy and psd syndrome hospitalization on national level....

 

[EugeneP]

By that definition, Israel has been committing terrorism for the last 75+ years, so why single out October 7 which is merely one instance in a string of tit-for-tat?

There is a sense of scale and proportion. Israel has behaved badly and shamefully for a long time. But the scale never reached October 7. Take for example 9/11. The casualties are fairly small if one were to go by historical wars (WW1, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam war etc.,) But the psychological impact was such that resulting wars claimed million plus victims and many nations were destroyed.

 

[SaadH]

No. Never a good idea to kill anyone without due process or declaration of war. One can see that the consequences have proved it quite convincingly. Support for October 7 has come down among Gazans.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-poll-finds-big-drop-support-oct-7-attack-2024-09-17/

It may go down lower in 2025.

I hope you don't apply this same logic of due process, God forbids if you have a criminal doing a home invasion in your place with your family inside...

 

[EugeneP]

I hope you don't apply this same logic of due process, God forbids if you have a criminal doing a home invasion in your place with your family inside...

Where I live, law permits me to do whatever is necessary to defend myself. Nobody calls October 7 or 9/11 as defensive action.

 

[vmro]

Iran should be careful of Russia which is also under deep Zionist control. The wealth of post-USSR Russia is highly concentrated in the hands of Zionists while many ordinary Russians are worse off.

Only China is free of Zionist control ... so far.

For me is enough too see zion-megaphons, only putin is near iran by space for attack, and if you watched famous Putin’s interview with American journalist, hustirical one, he said that Israel is special case of State, and have to be re-reconsider ...No love in geopolitics, but in actual world, at least for Dugin's new Russian geopolitical ideology, Iran and Russia in reality don't have some hard issue that is stopping mutual collaboration, and have potential mutual "enemies"...Iranian military assistance in Ukraine by beneficial results for Russia cant be calculated by any military hits etc...Russians never new hiw to fight without overspending resources...and trust me, their role in this mediated process, along with america, to cool down the last insanely try of destruction war just from Israel far beyond we think...

Insulted in almost same way by west, they are put in necessity of building geopolitacal love, or sympathy, and planning for the next eventuality...

 

[Kermit]

Iran raises the death toll from Israel’s attack to four, all from its military air defense
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The Islamic republic insisted it had the "right and the duty" to defend itself, while its Lebanese ally Hezbollah said it had targeted a southern Israeli airbase and a northern intelligence base
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The state-run IRNA news agency announced the deaths on Saturday (October 26, 2024) night. It offered no details on where the four men were stationed in the country.


Israel attacked military targets in Iran with pre-dawn airstrikes in retaliation for the barrage of ballistic missiles the Islamic Republic fired on Israel earlier this month. The strikes marked the first time Israel’s military has openly attacked Iran.

Israel warned Iran would "pay a heavy price" if it responded to the strikes, and the United States and Britain both demanded Tehran not escalate the conflict further.

The Islamic republic insisted it had the "right and the duty" to defend itself, while its Lebanese ally Hezbollah said it had targeted a southern Israeli airbase and a northern intelligence base.

Confirming the strikes after explosions and anti-aircraft fire echoed around Tehran, the Israel military said it had hit Iranian missile factories and military facilities in several regions.

The "retaliatory strike has been completed and the mission was fulfilled", while Israeli aircraft "returned safely", a military spokesman added.

Iran confirmed an Israeli attack had targeted military sites in Tehran province around the capital and other parts of the country, saying the raids caused "limited damage" but killed two soldiers.

Direct attack​

"Iran has the right and the duty to defend itself against foreign acts of aggression," the foreign ministry said, citing Article 51 of the UN Charter.

Israel had vowed to retaliate after October 1, when Iran fired about 200 missiles in only the second ever direct attack against its arch-foe. Most of those missiles were intercepted but one person was killed.

The Israeli retaliation drew condemnation from Hamas, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria and Saudi Arabia, which warned against further escalation. Jordan stated that Israeli jets had not used its airspace.


Hezbollah, the Lebanese movement backed by Iran, said it had fired rockets at Israeli soldiers near the village of Aita al-Shaab in southern Lebanon, and launched drones against Israel's Tel Nof air base.

Tel Nof is south of Tel Aviv and, if confirmed, the drone mission would be the militia's first attempt to hit it in this round of fighting.

Israel is already engaged in combat on two fronts.

Since last month, it has been conducting a war against Hezbollah in Lebanon, including strikes that have killed senior leadership and ground incursions seeking to destroy missile sites.

And, for more than a year since Hamas launched the October 7 cross-border attack, Israel has been fighting a war in Gaza that has caused mass civilian casualties in the densely populated Palestinian territory.

The United Nations has warned the "darkest moment" of that conflict was unfolding, with Palestinians facing a dire humanitarian crisis and daily Israeli bombing.

Along with Hezbollah and Hamas, Iranian-allied groups in Yemen, Iraq and Syria, have carried out attacks during the fallout from the Gaza war.

At roughly the same time as Israel struck targets in Iran, the Syrian state news agency SANA said an Israeli air attack targeted military positions in central and southern Syria.

Iran raises the death toll from Israel’s attack to four, all from its military air defense

Israel retaliates against Iran, sparking fears of West Asia war, with US and UK urging de-escalation.

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[Snake]

So how long before Iran hits back for the deaths of the 4 Iranian military personnel?

Iranian government acknowledges Iranian life is less than Israeli life. They will not retaliate.

 

[Immortals]

Sure. They built 500 missile cities deep under granite mountains to leave important things out of it as target.

500?

There is probably less than 10 “missile cities” in all of Iran. I have no idea where you get your numbers from.

Also not everything can be in a mountain. Mixing fuel is extremely toxic and you need proper ventilation and air purification systems. That is hard to do under a mountain. Add in logistics of transporting and storing raw materials on site and chemical precursors + fuel needed.

Just not feasible to put your entire critical weapons production chain underground or else every major power would have done it since WW2.

 

[MastanKhan]

You guys still can't see it, can you? the only way to beat Israel is to beat US first, there is no other way around, in nature, Russia is fighting Nato while Palestine is fight US.

Hi,

And USA is not beatable---now what---.

 

[PakFactor]

Hi,

And USA is not beatable---now what---.

Then you continue living as worthless human lab rats as it is what God destined one to be.

 

[Developereo]

For me is enough too see zion-megaphons, only putin is near iran by space for attack, and if you watched famous Putin’s interview with American journalist, hustirical one, he said that Israel is special case of State, and have to be re-reconsider ...No love in geopolitics, but in actual world, at least for Dugin's new Russian geopolitical ideology, Iran and Russia in reality don't have some hard issue that is stopping mutual collaboration, and have potential mutual "enemies"...Iranian military assistance in Ukraine by beneficial results for Russia cant be calculated by any military hits etc...Russians never new hiw to fight without overspending resources...and trust me, their role in this mediated process, along with america, to cool down the last insanely try of destruction war just from Israel far beyond we think...

Insulted in almost same way by west, they are put in necessity of building geopolitacal love, or sympathy, and planning for the next eventuality...

Two points:

1. Russia has enmity with NATO, not Israel.
2. Putin will listen to the Zionists who control lion's share of Russia's wealth.

When Russia helps Iran, it is not doing it against Israel but against NATO.

 

[Developereo]

There is a sense of scale and proportion. Israel has behaved badly and shamefully for a long time. But the scale never reached October 7. Take for example 9/11. The casualties are fairly small if one were to go by historical wars (WW1, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam war etc.,) But the psychological impact was such that resulting wars claimed million plus victims and many nations were destroyed.

Israel has killed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians over the years.

You are right: October 7 was not on the same scale as Israeli massacres.

DON'T LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7th

1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938
4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Haifa Massacre 1947
7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
12. Tantura Massacre 1948
13. Jaffa Massacre 1948
14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
16. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
17. Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990
18. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
19. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
20. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
21. Gaza Massacre 2012
22. Gaza Massacre 2014
23. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
24. Gaza Massacre 2021
25. Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing