Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FHN]

The US would need to start a major military assault in that case and that would be open war with Hezbollah.

Yes they can probably beat Hezbollah along with the Zionist terrorist Army but expect thousands of dead Americans. There will be no US public support for this and not a good start to the Trump Presidency.

This Lebanon-israel conflict resembles that of Chechen war. Similar in size and scope.

 

[MS Sandhu]

I don´t agree.
Iran has probably reserve air defenses storaged. Maybe there are not last generation Bavar 373 MKII or S300PMU-2, but for sure Iran retains in storage from Khordad´s 3 or Tabas Air defense systems not to tell any S200 storaged.
And day after day must be producing more system in a basis of 24/7. So probably in few weeks damaged systems will be repaired and in a month or two new systems would be introduced in service.
B52 are for launching ABM or cruise missiles IMO. Those obviously cannot even reach the border safely.

B52 has very important role

Once B-2 ,F35 or Raptors sanitize the area by destroying the ADS, B52 can take up the lead for mass destruction or heavy payload strikes on underground facilities since high sortie rates will be required for that purpose.

 

[UKBengali]

This Lebanon-israel conflict resembles that of Chechen war. Similar in size and scope.

Only difference is that one side, Hezbollah, is going to win as the Zionists have no courage to fight man to man.

 

[FHN]

I don't see a realistic scenario where the US puts troops in Lebanon. It will give Israel all the money, weapons and logistics it needs, but no US troops in Lebanon or Gaza.

Ground invasion of Iran is, of course, completely out of the question.

So basically the continuation of the current conflict.

 

[FHN]

Only difference is that one side, Hezbollah, is going to win as the Zionists have no courage to fight man to man.

I mean first Chechen war lol

 

[FHN]

Only difference is that one side, Hezbollah, is going to win as the Zionists have no courage to fight man to man.

I said it earlier Israel doesn't have the courage to fully commit. Hezbollah is 100 thousand strong. It will not be any easy for the IDF. The only way to push hezbollah out of South lebanon is a US ground invasion. iDF will play the support role.

 

[UKBengali]

I said it earlier Israel doesn't have the courage to fully commit. Hezbollah is 100 thousand strong. It will not be any easy for the IDF. The only way to push hezbollah out of South lebanon is a US ground invasion. iDF will play the support role.

Hezbollah are just picking off the armed Zionist terrorists from up to 10km away where they are well hidden in the hills and forests of South Lebanon.

Tactically they wisely decided it was not worth trying to defend the border villages as they cannot defend against Zionist planes.

This “invasion” by Zionist will go down in history as one of the worst military failures for decades as they made almost zero progress and are now stuck and not moving forward.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Hezbollah are just picking off the armed Zionist terrorists from up to 10km away where they are well hidden in the hills and forests of South Lebanon.

Tactically they wisely decided it was not worth trying to defend the border villages as they cannot defend against Zionist planes.

This “invasion” by Zionist will go down in history as one of the worst military failures for decades as they made almost zero progress and are now stuck and not moving forward.

According to the baby-murderers, the israelis have achieved their objectives in Lebanon and have withdrawn 9 out of 13 battalions in the border regions of South Lebanon.

 

[UKBengali]

According to the baby-murderers, the israelis have achieved their objectives in Lebanon and have withdrawn 9 out of 13 battalions in the border regions of South Lebanon.

100 dead and 1000 injured with roughly 200 of those crippled for life. This is just in one month without any major battles deep inside South Lebanon.

Yes they “achieved their objectives” or got spanked and have retreated more like.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

100 dead and 1000 injured with roughly 200 of those crippled for life. This is just in one month without any major battles deep inside South Lebanon.

Yes they “achieved their objectives” or got spanked and have retreated more like.

The 100 dead is what the baby-murderers are claiming and they have a LONG history of lying and severely under rreporting the REAL casualty figures. Consider the 1000 injured one step worst to a passage to hell.

 

[Lulldapull]

Well then Israel has no reason to start a war with Iran if they can't topple the government of Iran. U mean they will go after hezbollah instead and a possible ground invasion in Syria?

They can’t even accomplish those two tasks without suffering horrendous casualties.

Irans brought the war inside Israel no?

Can Israel bring the war inside Iran?

I believe you know the answer to that.

 

[Flotilla]

B52 has very important role

Once B-2 ,F35 or Raptors sanitize the area by destroying the ADS, B52 can take up the lead for mass destruction or heavy payload strikes on underground facilities since high sortie rates will be required for that purpose.

No, you cannot.

A simple TELAR of Khordad-3 system buried in the desert or hidding inside a farm (in a pure ukraninan style) can switch on the radar, launch two missiles and shoot down one, switch off the radar and change position.

I think you don´t understand the IRGC doctrine of asymetric warfare. That is the reason why they invest heavily in road mobile launch system with radars, from old Tabas to newest Arman systems all of them share the capability of operating with a single vehicle, track and shoot missiles against any enemy aircraft. Even Azarakash SHORADs are designed to be able to operate in a single vehicle.

You can destroy all S300 PMU-2, and after them all Bavar 373, and even many Mersad and Khordad 16 systems, but IRGC will always have any Tabas, 3rd Khordad or even a Arman ready to use in their multiple underground or improvised dugouts.

 

[jauk]

B-52 bombers among other weaponary headed towards ME. Are these for Iran?

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Modern day version of gunboat diplomacy.

 

[MihanDefender]

Zionist newspaper: Iran's air defense is one of the biggest in the world

The Zionist newspaper "Calcalist" wrote in a report yesterday: Iran's air defense is the fifth largest defense power in the world, which consists of tens of thousands of troops and dozens of different systems.

This report states: Iran's air defense force has great diversity and strength. This force has a variety of equipment that is deployed in different areas. With these systems, the attacking air force will face many challenges to attack Iran.

This newspaper also wrote about "Sayad" defense missiles: One of the most dangerous air defense missiles of Iran is the Sayad missile. This missile challenges newer missiles in terms of performance. Sayad 3 and Sayad 4 versions use radar and ground radio control system for guidance and are able to operate from a distance of 300 km. The maximum speed of these missiles is more than Mach 5.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Hezbollah are just picking off the armed Zionist terrorists from up to 10km away where they are well hidden in the hills and forests of South Lebanon.

Tactically they wisely decided it was not worth trying to defend the border villages as they cannot defend against Zionist planes.

This “invasion” by Zionist will go down in history as one of the worst military failures for decades as they made almost zero progress and are now stuck and not moving forward.

The 10km advantage will always stay with Hezb, so even if they could push to the river, they cannot hold it as anything in the 10km range will always be targetted. There is no "holding" action that is possible by any occupation forces.

Not a very well thought out invasion.