United States elections 2024: Donald Trump Wins

[AjayGhatak]

He can instruct his party not pass any bill from 2025 to 2029 (Dem probably have enough number to stop him from passing anything anyway), but any bill that passed would continue to execute unless the floor void it.

Do they?

House is still up for toss.

And please correct me if I am wrong. 2/3 or supermajority is only needed for overriding presidential veto, right?

For passing legislature normal, house and senate majority is enough together with a persidential signature.

Am I wrong?

 

[j_hungary]

I believe you can certainly charge a state judge in a federal law violation in SC, right?

After all state judges are also citizens.

Given how irregular state court cases were against him, he can also be absolutely vindictive and drag the judge him/herself in a federal offense in a court that is sympathetic to him.

SC don't deal with charging anyone, SC is for constitutional issue. If I have a legal case that may violate the US constitution, that's where Supreme Court heard the case from.

State Judge were elected from the state, what Trump can do, at most is to direct the FBI to investigate people who he want to investigate, like Reffenburgers or the Judge in that NY case that convict him. He can't charge him unless those Federal Agency find something.

NY is no way turning red, so the NY case stay, he may still go to jail after 2029 when he is no longer the POTUS. But Federal Authority have no jurisdiction on state affair.

 

[Fatman17]

That's not how US Politics works.

Trump would need supermajority to pass any bill in senate, you need 66, not 51. You can only install any judge or any federal position (Generals, Admirals, Secretary and so on) with a simple majority.

He'll get it

 

[Developereo]

Someone said it well " The Democrats were Overconfident "

Not really.

This election was about immigration and the Dems lost the election long ago. Many people will say 'economy' so they don't sound racist but Trump's own speech acknowledges what everyone knew all along.

 

[BitCoin]

Someone said it well " The Democrats were Overconfident "

It is hard for a women to win General Elections in the USA. Hillary Clinton had a higher chance of changing this probability but unfortunately Kamala Devi of Indian background was not the one to change the course of history.

 

[j_hungary]

He'll get it

Get what?

The best he can get in Senate is 58, that is if GOP won every of the 7 un called seat. He won't get it unless some of the Dem cross the senate floor

 

[AjayGhatak]

Get what?

The best he can get in Senate is 58, that is if GOP won every of the 7 un called seat. He won't get it unless some of the Dem cross the senate floor

But does he need a supermajority to pass legislation? Simple majority in Senate and House with his signature should be enough? Isn't it? Or am I missing something here.

The Legislative Branch | The White House

The United States Congress is made up of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Learn more about the powers of the Legislative Branch of the federal government of the United States.

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In order to pass legislation and send it to the President for his or her signature, both the House and the Senate must pass the same bill by majority vote. If the President vetoes a bill, they may override his veto by passing the bill again in each chamber with at least two-thirds of each body voting in favor.

 

[j_hungary]

Do they?

House is still up for toss.

And please correct me if I am wrong. 2/3 or supermajority is only needed for overriding presidential veto, right?

For passing legislature normal, house and senate majority is enough together with a persidential signature.

Am I wrong?

Actually, I was wrong, in 1975 they changed to a Cloture clause, which mean you need 3/5 not supermajority in Senate. You need supermajority in Congress

The issue is filibuster, which mean "indefinite debate" on any issue in Senate, and it can be invoked by any senator with any bill, the only way to go over that is to get 60 senators to break the filibuster by invoking the cloture to end the debate.

So basically you will need 60 senators to pass any legislation not 66

Filibuster - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Cloture - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And yes, you still need 66 to impeach anyone

 

[FHN]

Congratulations to Sir Donald J Trump for winning the nail biting elections.

I hope his win will bring prosperity in the entire world and this madness of wars around the world will stop

A world war 3 with Trump in office would be very fitting. We need strong men fighting it out.

 

[FHN]

Now is the best time for Iran to retaliate before Trump gets into oval office. I doubt they will do it.

 

[FHN]

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Technically, trump started one with Iran by killing general sulleimani. Destroying the Iranian Nuclear Deal, that was set up under Obama administration, recognized Jerusalem as capital of Israel and he did all that for Netanyahu.

 

[KAAFIR]

Good for Israel, Bad for Palestinians, Bad for some of subcontinent countries. Mostly bad for Europe but Trump was right when he asked the Europeans to raise their defence budget. Not really good for Russia, unpredictable what will happen to Ukranians. Mostly neutral for SE Asians and Australia.

Putin is happy today.

 

[mulj]

fake republicans aka democrats will start again inventing causes for streets protests around america which is good thing for rest of the world.
trump is sure demise card of america super power position, dems aka fake reps hugely contributed to it due idiotic "leadership" or pawns without any agency if you like.

 

[AjayGhatak]

The issue is filibuster, which mean "indefinite debate" on any issue in Senate, and it can be invoked by any senator with any bill, the only way to go over that is to get 60 senators to break the filibuster by invoking the cloture to end the debate.

So basically you will need 60 senators to pass any legislation not 66

Filibuster is more of a procedural hurdle. And there is one .... rather interesting way to destroy it.

By creating a new Senate precedent.

Senate Filibuster: What It Is and How to Eliminate It

Molly E. Reynolds explains the Senate filibuster and what it would take to eliminate it.

www.brookings.edu

A more complicated, but more likely, way to ban the filibuster would be to create a new Senate precedent. The chamber’s precedents exist alongside its formal rules to provide additional insight into how and when its rules have been applied in particular ways. Importantly, this approach to curtailing the filibuster—colloquially known as the “nuclear option” and more formally as “reform by ruling”—can, in certain circumstances, be employed with support from only a simple majority of senators.

The nuclear option leverages the fact that a new precedent can be created by a senator raising a point of order, or claiming that a Senate rule is being violated. If the presiding officer (typically a member of the Senate) agrees, that ruling establishes a new precedent. If the presiding officer disagrees, another senator can appeal the ruling of the chair. If a majority of the Senate votes to reverse the decision of the chair, then the opposite of the chair’s ruling becomes the new precedent.

 

[AjayGhatak]

And yes, you still need 66 to impeach anyone

New York comes under 2nd Circuit, right?