Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Tamerlane]

@Meengla I’m lucky that I’m not a US citizen, so I didn’t have to make the choice. However, a very similar situation will arise in Canada in a few months and I plan not to vote at all. Here’s the choice:

Liberals. Justinder Singh Trudeau. Ruined the county and flooded it with Indians.

Conservatives. Pierre Poilievre. Like Trump a rabid Zionist.

NDP. Jagmeet Singh. Huge turban, big beard Sikh.

Green. 2.3% vote.

 

[Meengla]

The debate about Harris vs Trump has to be stopped now. I thought I wouldn't engage anymore but then I see absolutely mindboggling comments. Not only in this thread but also in my personal circle / offline, the wishful thinking about the Green Party getting the 5% where I knew they were not going to get even 2%. I have been supportive of the Green Party since Nader 2000 and I have learned a few things in the 24 years since then. You cannot fight this system from the outside: You become a part of it and introduce gradual change IF you want to see the change within your life time. The political stupidity of 'punishing' your natural allies to keep 'rewarding' your political opponent is what it is: Political stupidity. Just like those poor hillbillies in the Appalachia region I live who'd rather vote for Trump who has promised to abolish the Govt programs like the Obamacare then to look after their own interests. That's simply political stupidity, done for emotional reasons.

 

[Meengla]

@Meengla I’m lucky that I’m not a US citizen, so I didn’t have to make the choice. However, a very similar situation will arise in Canada in a few months and I plan not to vote at all. Here’s the choice:

Liberals. Justinder Singh Trudeau. Ruined the county and flooded it with Indians.

Conservatives. Pierre Poilievre. Like Trump a rabid Zionist.

NDP. Jagmeet Singh. Huge turban, big beard Sikh.

Green. 2.3% vote.

No. If you don't vote, you don't get to complain. Vote for the Devil himself but do vote otherwise don't complain.

 

[Tamerlane]

No. If you don't vote, you don't get to complain. Vote for the Devil himself but do vote otherwise don't complain.

Okay, then I'll vote for the Zionist, Islamophobic Conservatives. Their policies for Canada suit me the best. The Liberals have been bad for the country and me personally.

 

[Starlord]

Firstly, I DO think that Harris would have been far better than Biden or Trump on Palestine IF she were the President. But we will never know that, right: All of you fail to understand: A VP is a backup candidate in case something happens to the President. Please present your evidence as to how many times a VP stood upto her/her President on pressing issues? And you can teach the 'future Democrats' all the lessons for the next nth election cycles while the Israelis and their backers are LAUGHING at your logic of enabling the Trump win: I have seen enough online in last few days alone to make that claim. But go on! Go right on and do the Einstein definition of madness for the next nth election cycles!!

Do I need to present the evidence on how the entire Democratic party silenced their own Rashida Talib ? oh watching 2 videos and 1 podcast won't make you expert, you have been living in that delusional that you have the right idea on how US political work and how Muslim voters should vote, there are far more educated and far sighted people exists in America than you and me. Again Israeli's will laugh anyway because they not only own the President but their entire congress, so it doesn't matter who won but Democrats learned a hard lesson not ignore the minority voters who made huge difference in last election to bring you in power, plus the disgust the American youth have against the Biden/Kamala, maybe you should refresh your memory about the college/university protests, they were all against the war and fighting the Police brutality on them pushed by Democrats.
Trust me i don't need to be anyone to understand the basic rule of people not voting for those who not only support the massacre of their people/families but don't have decency to condemn it, while sending endless shipment of bombs, Trump can do worse and world will watch the True nature of America which always was Bullying the weak, destroying nations who stood against it specially by Democrats who holds stakes in Military industrial complex that supports war.
You are mad because people have withheld their vote for their honor and dignity, maybe you should learn a thing or two from the Arab/Muslim voters.

 

[Meengla]

Do I need to present the evidence on how the entire Democratic party silenced their own Rashida Talib ? oh watching 2 videos and 1 podcast won't make you expert, you have been living in that delusional that you have the right idea on how US political work and how Muslim voters should vote, there are far more educated and far sighted people exists in America than you and me. Again Israeli's will laugh anyway because they not only own the President but their entire congress, so it doesn't matter who won but Democrats learned a hard lesson not ignore the minority voters who made huge difference in last election to bring you in power, plus the disgust the American youth have against the Biden/Kamala, maybe you should refresh your memory about the college/university protests, they were all against the war and fighting the Police brutality on them pushed by Democrats.
Trust me i don't need to be anyone to understand the basic rule of people not voting for those who not only support the massacre of their people/families but don't have decency to condemn it, while sending endless shipment of bombs, Trump can do worse and world will watch the True nature of America which always was Bullying the weak, destroying nations who stood against it specially by Democrats who holds stakes in Military industrial complex that supports war.
You are mad because people have withheld their vote for their honor and dignity, maybe you should learn a thing or two from the Arab/Muslim voters.

And yet you don't have an answer to as to why Kamala Harris and several other prominent Democrats, including also Nancy Pelosi, boycotted the Netanyahu Joint Congress address in an election year. Or as to why 60 Democratic Congressmen supported strong anti-Israel legislation. Or as to why the Israelis have been, for many months, strongly supportive of a Trump Presidency. Or you don't have answer to my question about the role of the US VP in a US govt. You equate Harris with Biden which was absolutely wrong, unfair and uninformed--if not ignorant!
I was maybe 'delusional' 24 years ago when I supported Nader and the 'Needle hasn't moved since then'. But I am awake and alert. It is people like YOU who are the unwitting accomplices of Netanyahu. But go on: Keep boycotting and keep voting The Green Party. That's the extent of your political analyses and you are free to keep doing that for the next 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 decades. And then maybe one day you will have the understanding like I have acquired.

 

[Starlord]

And yet you don't have an answer to as to why Kamala Harris and several other prominent Democrats, including also Nancy Pelosi, boycotted the Netanyahu Joint Congress address in an election year. Or as to why 60 Democratic Congressmen supported strong anti-Israel legislation. Or as to why the Israelis have been, for many months, strongly supportive of a Trump Presidency. Or you don't have answer to my question about the role of the US VP in a US govt. You equate Harris with Biden which was absolutely wrong, unfair and uninformed--if not ignorant!
I was maybe 'delusional' 24 years ago when I supported Nader and the 'Needle hasn't moved since then'. But I am awake and alert. It is people like YOU who are the unwitting accomplices of Netanyahu. But go on: Keep boycotting and keep voting The Green Party. That's the extent of your political analyses and you are free to keep doing that for the next 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 decades. And then maybe one day you will have the understanding like I have acquired.

And what did that achieve for Kamala ? same congress with democrats with it silence their own fellow Rashida Talib, pass bills in favor of Israel and Military Aid, same Kamala was issuing statements that she will do everything to protect Israel and make sure Israel have everything to defend itself while not giving a damn about Palestinians, same Kamala can't start a statement without " Israel have the right to defend itself " so to answer your question about missing Bibi's speech or Anti-Israel legislation is that they were all for show, they know it very well because not once any of them even dared to stop or speak against Israel, forget about that USA under biden Threaten ICC/ICJ and UNRAW and veto'd cease-fire resolutions on behalf of Israel, And no I don't see this Allah's justice over the Democrats, Trust me I am not that emotional, Allah's justice for his creation will be far more extreme, maybe not in next 100-200 years but its coming. Democrats lost because of their two faced policies, abandoning their voters not just in Muslim circle but youth who were fighting for cease-fire in colleges, then abandoning of black voters and failed to impress the Latino, you can't win or expect to win by just giving speeches over abortion, Gay and roe vs wade.

 

[Meengla]

And what did that achieve for Kamala ? same congress with democrats with it silence their own fellow Rashida Talib, pass bills in favor of Israel and Military Aid, same Kamala was issuing statements that she will do everything to protect Israel and make sure Israel have everything to defend itself while not giving a damn about Palestinians, same Kamala can't start a statement without " Israel have the right to defend itself " so to answer your question about missing Bibi's speech or Anti-Israel legislation is that they were all for show, they know it very well because not once any of them even dared to stop or speak against Israel, forget about that USA under biden Threaten ICC/ICJ and UNRAW and veto'd cease-fire resolutions on behalf of Israel, And no I don't see this Allah's justice over the Democrats, Trust me I am not that emotional, Allah's justice for his creation will be far more extreme, maybe not in next 100-200 years but its coming. Democrats lost because of their two faced policies, abandoning their voters not just in Muslim circle but youth who were fighting for cease-fire in colleges, then abandoning of black voters and failed to impress the Latino, you can't win or expect to win by just giving speeches over abortion, Gay and roe vs wade.

I have been suggesting a path forward--gradual but doable if you paid attention to my posts above about working within the American political system which I don't foresee is going to change for decades more!! All you and people like have been suggesting is hyperventilation and emotionalism. Any Zionist here, like @Solomon2 knows that what I have said would be helpful to the Palestinians while the recipes of people like you are just vaporware. Keep doing that and doing that and doing that to satisfy your ego!! But please go on and massage your ego but know that, while you do that, you are an unwitting accomplice of Netanyahu!! There is a reason Israelis cheer for people like you!!!

 

[Khansaheeb]

Netanyahu removes Israeli Defense Minister Galant, and the Israelis are demanding that Netanyahu be removed. Israel is shocked by the decision and the White House is stunned. The Pentagon says: Removing Gallant is a dramatic change and has consequences.

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It's obvious why Gallant has been sacked, Israel is facing imminent defeat, their forces are collapsing, in Gaza and Lebanon soldiers are refusing to fight. The only ones happy to continue are the pilots and artillery units who are happy to drop more one ton bombs on civilians.

 

[Khansaheeb]

The debate about Harris vs Trump has to be stopped now. I thought I wouldn't engage anymore but then I see absolutely mindboggling comments. Not only in this thread but also in my personal circle / offline, the wishful thinking about the Green Party getting the 5% where I knew they were not going to get even 2%. I have been supportive of the Green Party since Nader 2000 and I have learned a few things in the 24 years since then. You cannot fight this system from the outside: You become a part of it and introduce gradual change IF you want to see the change within your life time. The political stupidity of 'punishing' your natural allies to keep 'rewarding' your political opponent is what it is: Political stupidity. Just like those poor hillbillies in the Appalachia region I live who'd rather vote for Trump who has promised to abolish the Govt programs like the Obamacare then to look after their own interests. That's simply political stupidity, done for emotional reasons.

All Kamala had to say was that she was going to stop the war and stop arms supplies to Israel and she would have won the election. But she is part of the Zionist game who win anyway whatever the result. The primary focus should be now on what Trump is going to do and the impact on the region including Palestinians , Iran and Pakistan.
Trump has played the Zionist game on their behalf which is to create a significant relationship gap between China and India to make India into their proxy as a China countermeasure and secure the Israeli regime as hammer against the Arab world.

 

[The SC]

Hamas: Trump’s victory will put him to the test of fulfilling his promise to stop the war

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[Starlord]

I have been suggesting a path forward--gradual but doable if you paid attention to my posts above about working within the American political system which I don't foresee is going to change for decades more!! All you and people like have been suggesting is hyperventilation and emotionalism. Any Zionist here, like @Solomon2 knows that what I have said would be helpful to the Palestinians while the recipes of people like you are just vaporware. Keep doing that and doing that and doing that to satisfy your ego!! But please go on and massage your ego but know that, while you do that, you are an unwitting accomplice of Netanyahu!! There is a reason Israelis cheer for people like you!!!

I guess only the time will tell.

 

[Khansaheeb]

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UK is under Zionist occupation

 

[Khansaheeb]

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You mean retreating from the Gaza strip. Why would an occupying force just "withdraw "?

 

[Khansaheeb]

Hamas: Trump’s victory will put him to the test of fulfilling his promise to stop the war

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It's not what Trump says he would do but what Netanyahu and his Zion backers decide.