Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Meengla said:
As I said, it wouldn't matter in this particular election cycle who the Muslims/Arabs/Progressives/Youth voted or not voted because Biden's legacy--his domestic legacy even if there was external peace--would have sank any Democratic Presidential nominee with the possible exception of Bernie Sanders. My message is basically about the Democratic Party is irreversibly moving away from Israel and that almost half of the Democrats had boycotted the Netanyahu Joint Congress Speech and that too in an election year. I also just above gave example of Hubert Humphrey as VP under Johnson and the 1968 elections. I mentioned the Nader 2000 elections and the 0.4% that Stein got. My point being: Work within the American system and work with those who are already, however slowly, gravitating toward your desired goals. The youth, the immigrants, the minorities, the Arabs, the Muslims, the Progressives of America should work to strategize for the 2026 and then the 2028 elections instead of making emotional choices.
For now, it is done and we better hope Trump doesn't turn out to be as bad as expected of him but why would he not align with his electorate??
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Unless the Democrats show distance from Republicans in terms of what Muslims and "Progressives" care about, they will probably be unelectable forever.

Even if the economy was better they probably would have lost it due to a few critical swing states where Muslims + Progressives makes sure that the Republicans win.

It is not up to the voters to "help" the Democrats become a civilised party but for the Democrats to say we are no longer a bunch of genocide enablers and so please forgive and vote for us now.

Genocide is not going to be forgiven as the "lesser of two evils" and "helping" the Democrats to become a civilised party.

People have spoken and around 5% of US voters will probably never ever vote for the Democrats unless they have turfed the Zioniosts out of their party.
 
The SC said:
Erdogan: We cut off trade and relations with Israel and stand with Palestine

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The Turkish President during his return from his visits to Saudi Arabia and Azerbaijan: Türkiye is the country that has shown the strongest response in the world to Israel's injustice.

https://www.aa.com.tr/ar/إسرائيل/أردوغان-قطعنا-التجارة-والعلاقات-مع-إسرائيل-ونقف-مع-فلسطين/3392861
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No they have not - they will have re-routed it through some proxies like last time. Stop the oil then we can talk ..
 
The SC said:
Erdogan: We cut off trade and relations with Israel and stand with Palestine

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The Turkish President during his return from his visits to Saudi Arabia and Azerbaijan: Türkiye is the country that has shown the strongest response in the world to Israel's injustice.

https://www.aa.com.tr/ar/إسرائيل/أردوغان-قطعنا-التجارة-والعلاقات-مع-إسرائيل-ونقف-مع-فلسطين/3392861
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I think the needle has moved a bit. Israel's inability to prevail even in Gaza, let alone in Lebanon, is giving some backbone to the regional players and I don't think, unless prevails on both front, there is going back from increasingly challenging Israel and even America.
If rumors are to be true, the Russian supplied air defense systems and the indigenous Iranian air defense systems are a sort of game changers in this evolving situation.
 
EugeneP said:
Yes, all wars are tragic and kill innocents including children. When did you have a war that only killed combatants? Many more than that number of East Pakistanis were killed in the war of 1971, and they didn't even kill one West Pakistani. Many more were killed in Iraq -Iran war that did not even have any reason worth fighting for.
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Your side deliberately kills children. Your genocidal country provides weapons and Israel willingly aims them at Palestinian children.

You are an enemy as far as I am concerned.
 
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UKBengali said:
Unless the Democrats show distance from Republicans in terms of what Muslims and "Progressives" care about, they will probably be unelectable forever.
Even if the economy was better they probably would have lost it due to a few critical swing states where Muslims + Progressives makes sure that the Republicans win.
It is not up to the voters to "help" the Democrats become a civilised party but for the Democrats to say we are no longer a bunch of genocide enablers and so please forgive and vote for us now.
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And you think the 'unelectable forever' helps the Palestinians?? Did you consider that despite the significant pro Palestinians voices in the Democratic Party, currently and into the foreseeable future, the AIPAC money and media determine the outcomes of elections? You 'lump' a VP with a President when historically that's not the case in America. You lump a whole large political party to a single entity, which it is not. The Democratic Party has considerable pro Palestinians politicians and pressure groups. They need to be supported to withstand the AIPAC pressure to win and they need to be supported by a President who would not use 'Palestinians' as a slur!!
That's call politics. Making alliances here and there. Working with the likeminded communities to bring about the change. Otherwise, I can already see: Israelis are very happy with the way the pro Palestinians communities are using their electoral power.
 
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Meengla said:
And you think the 'unelectable forever' helps the Palestinians?? Did you consider that despite the significant pro Palestinians voices in the Democratic Party, currently and into the foreseeable future, the AIPAC money and media determine the outcomes of elections? You 'lump' a VP with a President when historically that's not the case in America. You lump a whole large political party to a single entity, which it is not. The Democratic Party has considerable pro Palestinians politicians and pressure groups. They need to be supported to withstand the AIPAC pressure to win and they need to be supported by a President who would not use 'Palestinians' as a slur!!
That's call politics. Making alliances here and there. Working with the likeminded communities to bring about the change. Otherwise, I can already see: Israelis are very happy with the way the pro Palestinians communities are using their electoral power.
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But it is not about what I personally think.

It is what people have done and will do.

These two demographics will never vote for an unreformed genocide enabling Democratic Party again.

I am afraid you can talk about "strategy" till the end of times but this is not the way voters behave.
 
UKBengali said:
These two demographics will never vote for an unreformed genocide enabling Democratic Party again.
I am afraid you can talk about "strategy" till the end of times but this is not the way voters behave.
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Okay, don't vote Democratic Party but do know that there ARE considerable number of people in the Democratic Party who are pro Palestinians and there are far higher number of people in the Republican Party who are very anti Palestinians. In between them, you have the 0.4% Green Party, which is now rightly called 'the Controlled Opposition' as the Republicans ACTIVELY works to split the Progressive votes.

People can vote whoever they want to and certainly those, whose loved ones are being killed by the Zionists, should always follow their own heart and mind. I am not personally threatened or rewarded by any of the parties. I probably would have voted for Trump in 2024 had it not been for the concern for the Palestinians!

My message is for the future: Having lived here for decades and experienced with Nader 2000, Stein 2016 and now... I am sure that unless smart politics is followed, the pro Palestinian forces in America would continue to fall into the Zionists' trap.
 
So, as many people have been saying, Trump is going to wrap up the Ukraine War and focus on the Middle East. While this article doesn't say anything about the Middle East, looking at Trump's Middle East / China Centric Neo Con appointments, it shouldn't surprise anyone that Trump is going to divert the resources to the two other conflicts.
Poor Zelensky--the hero of some people here for almost three years, seems likely to concede some territory for 'peace' Hahahah!! Hahahaha!!


Ukrainian officials have said for months that they would not cede territory occupied by Russia in any peace settlement. Now, as Ukraine contemplates an accelerated timetable for negotiations pushed by President-elect Donald J. Trump, it is putting at least as much importance on obtaining security guarantees as on where an eventual cease-fire line might fall.

With Ukrainian forces steadily losing ground in the east, two senior officials said that defending Ukraine’s interests in potential talks would hinge not on territorial boundaries, which are likely to be determined by the fighting, but on what assurances are in place to make a cease-fire hold.
 
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Meengla said:
On the contrary: In 2024, 'record number' of American Jews voted for Trump, breaking a four decade pattern. Yes, a majority of Americans Jews still voted for Biden and that majority is called 'JINO' by the Israelis in contempt of them: 'Jews in Name Only'.
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A majority! Full stop... semantics.

Both parties have a common cause with zion...
Hung on the same thread they have their own way about it to cover/manufacture the spectrum.
 
New US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth:
I did an interview while tattooing my hand in Bethlehem, and I had the Jerusalem Cross tattooed all over my chest, and I also had Jehovah -- Jesus in Hebrew.
The slogan "Deus Vult" -- God wants that -- was drawn on his arm muscle, which is the cry of the Crusaders.
On his bicep he painted a large flag bearing the AR-15 rifle she carried in Iraq.
Then I drew the logo of my unit with which I served in Iraq on my shoulder

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