Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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The Jewish Rapist terrorists continue to shock humanity. These are a vile and disgusting people.

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Meengla said:
I had repeatedly mentioned how even Russia could be brought to a less hostile position in yet another 'Big Power' deal. So don't be surprised if Trump scales back the Ukraine war--which he was going to do anyway before Oct. 2023 happened--and reward eastern Ukraine to Russia in exchange for some 'concessions' from Russia elsewhere.
In the end, it is ONLY the Islamic World's Street which matters. The rest, the rulers of all countries --with the exception of Iran and its allies -- can be bought off; even the Chinese by giving concession over Taiwan. That's how Big Powers have worked historically.


Earth to, e.g., my progressive friends who refused to support Harris and the voters in Dearborn, MI who voted for Trump or Stein to protest Biden’s backing Netanyahu: Netanyahu plans to annex the West Bank and northern Gaza and Trump is going to let him do it. I think that Trump is going to cut a deal with Vladimir Putin whereby Putin gets a big chunk of Ukraine in return for standing down, and persuading Russia‘s allies to stand down, when Netanyahu makes his move. From Wikipedia: ”Iran and Russia are strategic allies and form an axis in the Caucasus alongside Armenia. Iran and Russia are also military allies in the conflicts in Syria and Iraq and partners in Afghanistan and post-Soviet Central Asia. The Russian Federation is also the chief supplier of arms and weaponry to Iran.” If the Russians are bought off with Ukraine, there is little to stop Netanyahu. We told you so - voting against Harris as a protest against Biden’s policies in Gaza was “cutting off your nose to spite your face.” Now the consequences begin.
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Speaking to your point about Russia, China, US political relations to this conflict - I said something similar and some of the naïve Iranians said "Russia has no choice but Iran."
Snake said:
This is a novice statement. Consider the following wartime scenario:

Suppose Russia agrees to arm Iran with $3b worth of defense equipment.

The next day there will be a Zionist diplomat in Moscow with 10 or so Jewish Russian oligarchs saying "we will get the Americans to drop sanctions A, B, C and get them to decrease Ukraine funding if you don't give Iran X, Y, Z"

You think that's not a choice available to Russians?
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For what it's worth I preferred (still do) Trump over Harris. The Muslim world should stop looking to outside help and if Trump forces them to do so then all the better.
 
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jew israeli perv are really so disgustingly fucked jew Israelis Zionist are openly raping cats​

 
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Snake said:
Speaking to your point about Russia, China, US political relations to this conflict - I said something similar and some of the naïve Iranians said "Russia has no choice but Iran."
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Big Powers have historically made deals for their interests. If becoming a little less supportive of Russia's Middle East allies in exchange for lessening hostilities in Ukraine and getting some land in Ukraine is part of a deal/offer, then can one blame Russia for taking the deal? The Russian counter attack to take back Kursk alone has cost several thousand casualties. And Russia wants to look to Europe anyway for centuries: Russia, to the west of the Urals, is a largely a white Christian European nation.
America's peer-rival is China. Not Russia. The Middle East is a big distraction for which the Abrahamic Accords were introduced. Poor hapless Palestinians have no real help except for Iran and the Resistance. This thread is full of 'we should', 'Muslim World should' and all kinds of hypothetical/wishful thinking but we have seen the reality since October 2023.
 
Meengla said:
Big Powers have historically made deals for their interests. If becoming a little less supportive of Russia's Middle East allies in exchange for lessening hostilities in Ukraine and getting some land in Ukraine is part of a deal/offer, then can one blame Russia for taking the deal? The Russian counter attack to take back Kursk alone has cost several thousand casualties. And Russia wants to look to Europe anyway for centuries: Russia, to the west of the Urals, is a largely a white Christian European nation.
America's peer-rival is China. Not Russia. The Middle East is a big distraction for which the Abrahamic Accords were introduced. Poor hapless Palestinians have no real help except for Iran and the Resistance. This thread is full of 'we should', 'Muslim World should' and all kinds of hypothetical/wishful thinking but we have seen the reality since October 2023.
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Its painful, fustrating and heartbreaking to watch such henious crimes being commited against Palestinians every single day, but not be able to do anything.

None of us here in this forum have the power to do anything substantially. The least we can do is not stay silent.

The only one who can actually do something are the neighbors of palestinians. But they are totally aloof. Only the shia muslims actually doing anything. Sunnis just sitting and watching palestinians being tortured and killed. What a shameful situation. Where is the self-respect of rest of the arab world?

When the Ottoman Empire exanded into europe almost all European countries united in fight against them. They of course lost again and again. But still continued. Where is the arab united front against Evangelist-Zionist expansion in middle east?
 
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Alter_Ego said:
When the Ottoman Empire exanded into europe almost all European countries united in fight against them. They of course lost again and again. But still continued. Where is the arab united front against Evangelist-Zionist expansion in middle east?
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It would be off topic but I believe the Ottoman Empire, over the centuries, and other Islamic empires found plenty of 'traitors' in the Christendom and vice versa. There is a united Europe on the Middle East right now because there is the United States as the Empire behind them; America is the Caliph of the Western World!

Back to topic. Watching this. First time seeing Jake Morphonius. Incredible guy. After minute 29, he makes a startling claim: The only way to stop a war against Iran over the next four years would be either Trump and/or Netanyahu are taken out of the equation!

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Solomon2 said:

To Repeat: Designate the UNRWA a Terrorist Organization​

By Andrew C. McCarthy
October 29, 2024 9:03 PM

The Harris campaign, the Biden-Harris administration, the left-wing British government, and, naturally, the United Nations and other Hamas sympathizers in the “international community” are up in arms because Israel’s Knesset has passed legislation recognizing the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) as what it is: an adjunct of Hamas — the Palestinian jihadist branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has been designated a terrorist organization under U.S. law for nearly 30 years.

To repeat what I wrote nearly a year ago, it is time for the United States to side with our ally Israel and against our enemy Hamas by designating the UNRWA a foreign terrorist organization and prosecuting either its individual members or the organization collectively for providing material support to a designated terrorist organization — a federal crime so heinous that Congress has prescribed a sentence of life imprisonment in cases in which the material support has caused death, as UNRWA’s support of Hamas has. (See section 2339B of the federal penal code.)

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The new Israeli laws would ban UNRWA from operating in Israeli territory and bar Israeli government agencies from having contact with the organization. The legislation could have the effect of shutting down UNRWA operations in East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank (i.e., Judea and Samaria).

Good.

In the column linked above, I put it this way:


There is no denying that what UNRWA has done for Hamas meets the statutory definition of providing material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organization. That is as serious as it gets under our criminal law, to say nothing of the fact — which remains a fact no matter how much the media–Democratic complex seeks to bury it — that Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (another designated foreign terrorist organization bolstered by UNRWA) killed more than 40 Americans on October 7, 2023, in addition to taking several more hostage — a number of whom have been killed, while four who are believed to be alive are still being held by Hamas to this day. (Note: Upon investigation, the Israeli government determined that at least 30 UNRWA employees facilitated the abduction of hostages and the looting of Israeli communities.)

On this record, it is outrageous for the Biden-Harris administration to be shielding UNRWA from the entirely rational measures the Israeli legislature seeks to take in the midst of defending the Jewish state against a war of annihilation waged by UNRWA’s allies. If the administration, to mollify its anti-Israel base, insists on continuing to pour aid into the Palestinian territories — notwithstanding that the war ensues because Palestinian majorities deny Israel’s right to exist — then that is a reason to find a new vehicle for distributing aid. It is not a justification for continuing to lavishly fund an adjunct of a designated terrorist organization that is in clear violation of American anti-terrorism law.
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Complete and utter nonsense. At this point you aren't having a conversation, you're trolling.

we're just supposed to believe Israel, when Israel has been caught lying multiple times in the past?
 
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