Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Khansaheeb said:
As I have said a few times before Ukraine war was started only for the purpose to distract Russia from the Middle East . Also the US empowering South China sea countries and Taiwan was to distract China too from the Middle East. As the Palestine land for genocide has made progress they will now abandon Ukraine and Taiwan and focus the resources just on Palestine as both these theaters have no further purpose in the Zion-Palestine game. The last hurdle, Iran, will be dealt with once Trump installs his Generals into the Pentagon , which is in progress, and warhawks , once established, will readily start the war on Iran ( Iraq style). Until Iran has the fire Power to bring the Israelis to their knees the emboldened Israelis will continue the slaughter and challenge the world. If the world doesn't surrender and bow to the Zions then the US forces will be unleashed to commit atrocities to make examples of those who dare to challenge the Zions.
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I hope this is ironically written post, like mention of "zionist" MacGregor, and also all zionists of this forum, who are acting like anti-israelis, almost all of the members bluffing..

I can't take you seriously after phrase like:
The last hurdle, Iran, will be dealt with once Trump installs his Generals into the Pentagon , which is in progress...

No way any serious man with minimal amount of informations about usa politics to write such thing...
 
vmro said:
I hope this is ironically written post, like mention of "zionist" MacGregor, and also all zionists of this forum, who are acting like anti-israelis, almost all of the members bluffing..

I can't take you seriously after phrase like:
The last hurdle, Iran, will be dealt with once Trump installs his Generals into the Pentagon , which is in progress...

No way any serious man with minimal amount of informations about usa politics to write such thing...
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Well you better get serious since Trump is organising the firing of top generals and replace them with Zion approved puppets into the Pentagon. Israel wants US to attack Iran and demolish it, whatever it takes. Genocide is the norm and soon nuking will be the norm. Any large country that Israel considers a threat will be demolished, including Turkey, Iran and Pakistan. It may seem far fetched but so was taking Europe by Hitler. Trump has already installed grotesquely pro-Israel fanatics into his cabinet who only sing mantra of support for genocidal Israel and only god knows where this is leading to.

Trump promised no war but his actions speak otherwise. He fooled the nation and it remains to be seen if he is a friend of genocide. It seems times are going to get really ugly there are dark clouds of evil in the sky and the downpour of calamity is about to break out on some nations. You better take me seriously Hindjew, as most of my analysis and predictions have been true.
 
vmro said:
No way any serious man with minimal amount of informations about usa politics to write such thing...
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Most people are extremely ignorant about the American political system in this forum--and in my friends from Pakistan from even the American universities. It is intellectual laziness to not be aware of even the basics of the American politics which is the driving force behind Israel/Middle East.

Anyway, interesting video--relatively short: 16 minutes. Colonel Wilkerson is quite an informed person with links to not only the American political/military establishment but also to even the Israeli establishment. A major takeaway from this video: The grave risks of attacking Iran.

But, because this is a Pakistani Defense Forum, after all, NOT ONE analyst, whether pro Israel or pro Palestinian, have ever brought up the idea that Pakistan would help America/Israel to attack Iran! People need to remember that: Pakistan continued to recognize the Assad govt when Pakistan's biggest allies: The USA/West, the GCC Arabs, and Turkey were trying to topple Assad. Pakistan stood its ground then and Pakistan stood its ground when G.W.Bush wanted Pakistani forces to help in Iraq post 2003!! Unfortunately, due to a certain political bias in this forum, they have painted the Pakistani state as an American vassal. No, it is not. Just a weak state dependent on the West and its allies for $$.

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To Repeat: Designate the UNRWA a Terrorist Organization​

By Andrew C. McCarthy
October 29, 2024 9:03 PM

The Harris campaign, the Biden-Harris administration, the left-wing British government, and, naturally, the United Nations and other Hamas sympathizers in the “international community” are up in arms because Israel’s Knesset has passed legislation recognizing the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) as what it is: an adjunct of Hamas — the Palestinian jihadist branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has been designated a terrorist organization under U.S. law for nearly 30 years.

To repeat what I wrote nearly a year ago, it is time for the United States to side with our ally Israel and against our enemy Hamas by designating the UNRWA a foreign terrorist organization and prosecuting either its individual members or the organization collectively for providing material support to a designated terrorist organization — a federal crime so heinous that Congress has prescribed a sentence of life imprisonment in cases in which the material support has caused death, as UNRWA’s support of Hamas has. (See section 2339B of the federal penal code.)

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The new Israeli laws would ban UNRWA from operating in Israeli territory and bar Israeli government agencies from having contact with the organization. The legislation could have the effect of shutting down UNRWA operations in East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank (i.e., Judea and Samaria).

Good.

In the column linked above, I put it this way:


There is no denying that what UNRWA has done for Hamas meets the statutory definition of providing material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organization. That is as serious as it gets under our criminal law, to say nothing of the fact — which remains a fact no matter how much the media–Democratic complex seeks to bury it — that Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (another designated foreign terrorist organization bolstered by UNRWA) killed more than 40 Americans on October 7, 2023, in addition to taking several more hostage — a number of whom have been killed, while four who are believed to be alive are still being held by Hamas to this day. (Note: Upon investigation, the Israeli government determined that at least 30 UNRWA employees facilitated the abduction of hostages and the looting of Israeli communities.)

On this record, it is outrageous for the Biden-Harris administration to be shielding UNRWA from the entirely rational measures the Israeli legislature seeks to take in the midst of defending the Jewish state against a war of annihilation waged by UNRWA’s allies. If the administration, to mollify its anti-Israel base, insists on continuing to pour aid into the Palestinian territories — notwithstanding that the war ensues because Palestinian majorities deny Israel’s right to exist — then that is a reason to find a new vehicle for distributing aid. It is not a justification for continuing to lavishly fund an adjunct of a designated terrorist organization that is in clear violation of American anti-terrorism law.
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Disgusting man you are just advocating the starvation of men , women and children because you want their land. I hope the Gazans get their revenge on you and the good people of Palestine feed you to the dogs.
 
Meengla said:
But, because this is a Pakistani Defense Forum, after all, NOT ONE analyst, whether pro Israel or pro Palestinian, have ever brought up the idea that Pakistan would help America/Israel to attack Iran! People need to remember that: Pakistan continued to recognize the Assad govt when Pakistan's biggest allies: The USA/West, the GCC Arabs, and Turkey were trying to topple Assad. Pakistan stood its ground then and Pakistan stood its ground when G.W.Bush wanted Pakistani forces to help in Iraq post 2003!! Unfortunately, due to a certain political bias in this forum, they have painted the Pakistani state as an American vassal. No, it is not. Just a weak state dependent on the West and its allies for $$.

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Yes you are correct.

Pakistan is not a puppet state but more someone who compromises certain interests in return for money and weapons.

However there are some key interests that it will not flout like betraying neighbours such as Iran. It will survive as a state without external backing and so although the rulers may go, the state survives.
 
Meengla said:
The bolded part is such a bizarre theory!! Ukraine war started in Feb. 2022--conveniently barely six months after the American two decades presence in Afghanistan happened!! One day, history is going to connect the dots, you know like we look at World War I and II events!
IMO, Americans know that their peer-rival is only one: China and hence the 'Indo Pacific Pivot' started under Obama Presidency. Russia is a side-show and an unnecessary one and it is very likely Trump will throw a bone to Russia. The Russians, for centuries WANT to be part of the West anyway. They are white Christians. It was the folly of the Neo Cons in Washington to make some quick bucks from the Ukraine war but now that their nose is bleeding, they are likely to accommodate Russia and focus on China and the Middle East. And I won't blame Putin for accepting tens of thousands of Sq Miles of land in eastern Ukraine in return. Putin has no love for anyone except Russians--as he should.
When it comes to the Middle East--the Zionist lobby is working to undermine America's interests in a vital region. The American foreign policy in the Middle East is mostly irrational, impractical and will backfire: The adversary, though militarily and economically weaker, is ideologically very strong: The Islamic World will not back down.
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What you forget is that syria is part of greater Israel and Russian forces were growing there.
 
UKBengali said:
Pakistan is not a puppet state but more someone who compromises certain interests in return for money and weapons.

However there are some key interests that it will not flout like betraying neighbours such as Iran. It will survive as a state without external backing and so although the rulers may go, the state survives.
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Khansaheeb said:
What you forget is that syria is part of greater Israel and Russian forces were growing there.
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I am old enough to remember that G. W. Bush invited Pakistan's then President Musharraf to Camp David after the Iraq War 2003--yes, Camp David!--which is considered a great honor, blah blah. I remember after their meeting, they both walked out where 'in principle', Pakistan had agreed to send troops to Iraq to help the Americans in the occupation of Iraq. But of course that was just a window-dressing. Pakistan never did that, would never do that! In fact, despite enormous pressure leading up to the Iraq War of 2003--and the pressures on Pakistan are coming from a large, rich economy, with a large military as well: India--Pakistan was part of the UNSC. There was enormous pressure on Pakistan to support the American invasion of Iraq. The idea was that even if Russia/China/France (yes, France!) vetoed, there would be enough 'support' in the UNSC. Pakistan had refused that too. Now consider Pakistan's situation late 2002/early 2003: The war in Afghanistan had just started and India had amassed troops along Pakistan's borders. The Americans were in Pakistani bases and in Afghanistan and India, as always, ready to pounce. No country in the world faces a large land based threat as Pakistan does. But Pakistan still refused to support the American invasion of Iraq in the UNSC.
How is that relevant in this thread? That, when push comes to shove, Pakistan is going to rather probably sell its assets --the family jewels, if you will-- than to take part against Iran. If Pakistan stood its ground on Syria and Iraq then Iran is a far easier decision: Iran is a neighbor of Pakistan!
If you are looking for American vassals then find in Jordan, Germany, South Korea, Taiwan... Pakistan is not that and that's why Pakistan is not even being mentioned by the Neo Cons in their plans; they know well.
 

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Meengla said:
Most people are extremely ignorant about the American political system in this forum--and in my friends from Pakistan from even the American universities. It is intellectual laziness to not be aware of even the basics of the American politics which is the driving force behind Israel/Middle East.

Anyway, interesting video--relatively short: 16 minutes. Colonel Wilkerson is quite an informed person with links to not only the American political/military establishment but also to even the Israeli establishment. A major takeaway from this video: The grave risks of attacking Iran.

But, because this is a Pakistani Defense Forum, after all, NOT ONE analyst, whether pro Israel or pro Palestinian, have ever brought up the idea that Pakistan would help America/Israel to attack Iran! People need to remember that: Pakistan continued to recognize the Assad govt when Pakistan's biggest allies: The USA/West, the GCC Arabs, and Turkey were trying to topple Assad. Pakistan stood its ground then and Pakistan stood its ground when G.W.Bush wanted Pakistani forces to help in Iraq post 2003!! Unfortunately, due to a certain political bias in this forum, they have painted the Pakistani state as an American vassal. No, it is not. Just a weak state dependent on the West and its allies for $$.

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Yeah. I remember simulation in open battle on the Middle East between usa and Iran, and american general who commanded Iranian team ordered full attack on Americans....resulted with destruction of aircraft carrier, few more ships, logistically destroyed usa bases in regia, neutralized the air dominance of usa... or simply-decisive iranian victory...

Invading of Iran is perceived to be out of mind, no way after so long pointless wars and they will not have any serious supporting group in Iran that could be new regime, they repeated over years Assad must go, but he is there...


Pentagon, especially intelligence services of pentagon have nickname for presidents "temps"...there are many things that are not shared with potus...

Trump will have fierce opossition in every field of national institutional services...

The point is if Iranians are motivated and ready for tough reactions, they could in reality defeat their enemies in big style...
 
Khansaheeb said:

Trump picks hawks & neocons to run US foreign policy: Meet his warmongering cabinet​


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Well, this good Palestinian blogger is confirming within the first 3 minutes of this video that it could be even 'worse' under Trump!
Remember when I had posted the Mehdi Hassan video just before the Nov. 5 elections where he said 'it could be always be worse'. Unless there are surprises, it could be even worse for the hapless Palestinians!!

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vmro said:
Pentagon, especially intelligence services of pentagon have nickname for presidents "temps"...there are many things that are not shared with potus...
Trump will have fierce opossition in every field of national institutional services...
The point is if Iranians are motivated and ready for tough reactions, they could in reality defeat their enemies in big style...
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Speaking of the Pentagon, it is one more aspect of the intellectual laziness in this thread to not appreciate that the Pentagon is a professional organization and is probably the least Zionist infested part of the US govt! To the members here, everything is like a God Damn Borg from the Star Trek. Not, it is not. There are considerable number of non Zionists in the State department, in the Pentagon and indeed in the Democratic Party. The pro Palestinian groups should identify them and work with them and with the likeminded groups to move forward, however slowly. What is worse: Slow progress or stagnation or reversal??
 
These are the most vile people on Earth. The world is held hostage by these lunatics.

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