Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[MihanDefender]

notams being issued

 

[Flotilla]

Is this true then This is seriously effective retaliation. Is this the end of American power in the Middle East?

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Again;
That is not a carrier, it is a LHD amphibious ship. It is Bonhomme Richard that suffered a onboard fire some years ago.
Unfortunately... it is not an retaliatory attack from houties.

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[Flotilla]

Israel destroyed active nuclear weapons research facility in Iran, officials say

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/15/iran-israel-destroyed-active-nuclear-weapons-research-facility

Hard to believe that kind of facilities are not underground by Iran.

Anyway seems that the building was not active.

You can see there is no pipes, no wires, no auxiliary vehicles no containers outside of the building. Even no signals of wheels of heavy duty trucks around it.

On the other hand it is difficult to talk about it as a laboratory. You don´t make nuclear experiments on a industrial workshop. Usually the R+D laboratories are protected by thick walls and have comprehensive devices for air circulation and sorrounding towers with sensors for measuring nuclear radiations, shelters and those things you don´t see in the image. It´s seem just a storage building. Nothing more.

 

[BHAN85]

No. That's simply one of the factors. If oil was such a big thing why not knock on Venezuela's doorstep?

Crude oil is the biggest thing in USA foreign policy.

Iraq and Libya war proved.

USA doesnt need to win the war or to control the country to earn something.

Just destroy the country, and internal oil consumption decreases. That was the Libya and Iraq experience.

It's unnecessary to guess, just see last USA big movements in foreign policy.

Of course, they always try to disguise and hide their intentions, they talked about WMD in last Iraq war, and they talk about Israel interests in current plans to Middle East. All USA typical bullshit.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I know we criticize Iranian incompetence, but why would Iran be doing clandestine nuclear weapons work at a building that was long suspected of…..doing hidden nuclear work? That the IAEA and world powers likely watch like a hawk via satellites and black projects?

Is it possible? Sure anything is possible

Is it probable? Would demonstrate the highest level of incompetence if it was true, since all Iran had to do was relocate this site to literally anywhere else in the massive size country, but decided to keep conducting it at the same building just to get caught in the future.

I saw the strike as a symbolic message that says we can strike any building you decide to hide nuclear work in no matter what military site you place it in.

Again it should encourage iran to move sensitive work to mountain based sites and reduce the circle of insiders who have knowledge of such a site to just a handful inside the republic and the supporting scientists.

apparently the US detected activity at this site earlier in 2024

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[ParthianLord]

apparently the US detected activity at this site earlier in 2024

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total none sense the entire story.

 

[Lulldapull]

total none sense the entire story.

It was the same nonsense they pulled when they said they destroyed the Syrian nuke facility.

Targeting empty long abandoned buildings above ground in the middle of nowhere and then claiming we wiped out your nuke program.

Later on we find out it was a milk powder factory or a wheat mill.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Well, that's fine.
Let's accept that it was a nuclear facility and we should destroy Dimona in response.
These Jews don't know how stupid they are.

 

[Tamerlane]

Yes they exist and they are influential to things like abortion or gay marriage.

But it's not influential factor in middle east wars.

Middle east wars are related to crude oil.

USA foreign policy is a different important thing, it's not a game of shortterm politic babbling, USA foreign policy is the base of USA empire and it's thought in a long term by powerful interests different to religion: money, oil, military industrial complex and so on.

America has many interest groups, politicians, evangelicals, military, oil industry, etc. but at the top sit the Jews. They convince each interest groups that their proposed policies are in the best interest of each one of them.

They control the evangelical Christians through money and visits to Israel. Their theology had been changed to love the Jews and to expect the return of Jesus.

They control the politicians through AIPAC funding. For the Democrats they promote liberal policies. For the Republicans they promote right wing policies.

They control the oil industry by manipulating oil markets, keeping oil prices high so that the US oil industry stays profitable. Before the US wars in the Middle East prices were too low for oil extraction in the US.

The US military industrial complex benefits from Jewish wars by getting huge budgets. To maintain funding they need to always be at war. The Jews have found dozens of Muslim countries for them to attack.

The Jews in America need Israel to maintain their control over America. If Israel wasn’t there their power would be reduced. That’s why they don’t give US citizenship to Israelis. All the Jews would run away.

So, the power in America is in the hands of the Jews and they maintain control by promoting the interests of all the different centers of power.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Well, that's fine.
Let's accept that it was a nuclear facility and we should destroy Dimona in response.
These Jews don't know how stupid they are.

IRI will not do that

 

[Mehdipersian]

IRI will not do that

Iran has given enough time to these Jewish and American terrorists. We must start an all-out war

 

[Shawnee]

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/15/iran-israel-destroyed-active-nuclear-weapons-research-facility

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If you google the name you see they talked about this since 2003 and agents visited that from IAEA and it has been abandoned for 25 years.

This is a good example of media.
Same goes for Israel quadcopter attacks in Iran.

 

[Shawnee]

We have yet to see a missile that can pinpoint a tunnel and penetrate acurately 100-600 m under granite mountains.

Hitting entrances will not destroy anything.

 

[Persian Gulf]

We have yet to see a missile that can pinpoint a tunnel and penetrate acurately 100-600 m under granite mountains.

Hitting entrances will not destroy anything.

compare damage of first direct Israeli attack vs first direct Iranian attack

Iran has given enough time to these Jewish and American terrorists. We must start an all-out war

what we think IRI should do and what IRI actually does are two very different things

 

[tsunset]

Iranian MFA denies alleged meeting with Elon Musk

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