Nationwide Encounters: Surge of Chinese citizens illegally crossing the US border. Monthly tally thread - Updates and Discussion

No, no, no, don't take back your words.

LOL! What words are these that you are trying to put in my mouth?

Here let me put words in yours too then.

You are absolutely correct in saying China is a failed country and you are not surprised people are fleeing. Thank you for confirming!
 
LOL! What words are these that you are trying to put in my mouth?

Here let me put words in yours too then.

You are absolutely correct in saying China is failed country and you are not surprised people are fleeing.
China has a population of 1.4 billion, what's so strange about 20,000 to 30,000 people leaving every year?

It is only 0.001 per cent of the population. This is equivalent to a person who weighs 50 kilograms pulling out only 0.0005 kilograms of excrement a year. While he may have thrown excrement into the United States, that doesn't make him unhealthy.


Let's look at those valuable population flows. For example, international students. 90% of Chinese students choose to go back to their home country to start their own business.

 
China has a population of 1.4 billion, what's so strange about 20,000 to 30,000 people leaving every year?

Dude, are you even looking at the charts in this thread?
There were 78,701 Chinese arrested between September 2023 and September 2024 by US border police. That doesn't include those who eluded the border police...which would send that number FAR higher.

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To put that into perspective...let's look at the capacity of some famous Chinese stadiums...

Capacity: 80,000

Now just imagine all the spectators you see in these stands in handcuffs at the US border.
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All these people "rejoicing" and then running away to the US.
 
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Dude, are you even looking at the charts in this thread?
There were 78,701 Chinese arrested between September 2023 and September 2024 by US border police. That doesn't include those who eluded the border police...which would send that number FAR higher.

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To put that into perspective...let's look at the capacity of some famous Chinese stadiums...

Capacity: 80,000

Now just imagine all the spectators you see in these stands in handcuffs at the US border.
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All these people "rejoicing" and then running away to the US.

Okay, I didn't look closely at the chart.

Even if it's 78,000, that's only 0.005% of the population, which is far less than the percentage of the homeless population in the US.
 
Okay, I didn't look closely at the chart.

Even if it's 78,000, that's only 0.005% of the population, which is far less than the percentage of the homeless population in the US.

Of course that 78,000 is just the number of Chinese caught fleeing to the US. It doesn't count other countries.

Even if you want to say the US only has 1/5 the population of China we still don't have 78,000/5= 15,680 people asking for asylum around the world.
 
Top talents are coming back to China while illiterate bunch and fugitives are moving to US, this is why in recent data average IQ of the US population drop below the global average, US is being overwhelmed by the dregs of the societies around the world.

 
Of course that 78,000 is just the number of Chinese caught fleeing to the US. It doesn't count other countries.

Even if you want to say the US only has 1/5 the population of China we still don't have 78,000/5= 15,680 people asking for asylum around the world.
Because the 15,680 people in the U.S. have to go to the streets and live in tents, they can't afford the $20,000 to $40,000 smuggling agency fees.
 
They have lots of severely disenfranchised people. You don't see Americans fleeing the country by the 10's of thousands and jumping the borders of Europe/Africa/Asia in desperation.

US citizen can't flee and seek asylum overseas because US government is well perceived as able to protect her own citizen from persecution under race, religion, politics, and social groups.

On the other hands due to communism China's citizen has ground to flee and seek asylum overseas especially to US / west Europe with reason of fear of persecution under race, religion, politics and social groups.
 
US citizen can't flee and seek asylum overseas because US government is well perceived as able to protect her own citizen from persecution under race, religion, politics, and social groups.

On the other hands due to communism China's citizen has ground to flee and seek asylum overseas especially to US / west Europe with reason of fear of persecution under race, religion, politics and social groups.

Well if that is somehow an issue many countries in Europe offer dual citizenship to their diaspora even if you weren't born there. There is a wide spectrum of who is eligible spanning from countries where all you have to do is prove any lineage even if it is 400 years old..all the way to countries that say your parents had to be born there.

For African Americans as I mentioned previously there are countries in Africa (like Ghana) offering African Americans citizenships just by moving there.
 
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Another 3,648 Chinese illegal border jumpers arrested in November 2024

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Remember these are the people who did NOT get caught at the border by police....so this shows the number jumping the border is far higher

Chinese migrants in US illegally uneasy after fourth removal flight​

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After more than two years of separation, Chinese migrant Duan Chunxia, 51, recently met face to face with her husband and daughter at Stewart Detention Center, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Georgia.

“My wife has lost a lot of weight, and her hair turned gray,” her husband, Ni Jinfang, told VOA Mandarin in an emotional video interview. “Our daughter cried so much when she saw her mother. Her tears were all over her face and neck.”

That tearful reunion on December 1 was the latest in an emotional roller-coaster ride for the family as they’ve separately come to the United States seeking political asylum.

Following the COVID-19 pandemic, there was a surge in Chinese nationals entering the United States illegally and seeking asylum. Over the past year, those numbers have dwindled, and U.S. authorities are stepping up efforts to send a growing number back to China.

There is also increasing concern among undocumented migrants from China about President-elect Donald Trump’s pledge to carry out mass deportations.

Deportation flights

Just days after Duan met with her family, she was scheduled to be sent back to China on a U.S. government-chartered removal flight.

That flight departed Monday, but Duan was not on it. Following a second asylum interview, authorities agreed to give her more time to appeal the deportation order.


The charter flight marked the fourth time in six months that the United States has deported undocumented migrants back to China. Three previous flights in June, October and November carried a total of at least 350 Chinese citizens back to their homeland.

The last previous large-scale repatriation occurred in 2018.

Growing cooperation

In a statement Wednesday, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said the flight “is yet another example of the department’s ongoing cooperation with [China] and other international partners to deter irregular migration.”

It added that DHS and its counterparts in China “also continue joint work to counter the human smuggling networks that facilitate irregular migration.” DHS did not say how many migrants were on the flight.

Chen Chuangchuang, an immigration lawyer in California, told VOA Mandarin that the Chinese and U.S. governments have cooperated more closely on immigration issues this year than previously.

"In the past, China rarely cooperated with the U.S. government in accepting illegal migrants,” Chen told VOA in a December phone interview. “China has recently exchanged prisoners with the U.S. many times and also accepted undocumented people. [Chinese leader] Xi Jinping calls it ‘law enforcement cooperation’ rather than ‘border and immigration issues.’ ”

How they arrived

Ni, 53, and the couple’s 18-year-old daughter entered the U.S. on tourist visas in 2022. After Duan’s husband and daughter left China, she applied for a tourist visa the following year, but her application was rejected.

More than one year after that, in late September, she illegally entered the U.S., crossing the southern border with Mexico.

Duan made the hazardous journey through Ecuador and then traveled overland through Colombia, Central America and Mexico to the U.S. border.

Both Duan and Ni are from China’s central city of Suzhou, just outside Shanghai. The city is relatively wealthy but human rights violations are not unheard of.

In 2012, Ni lost his house and land following a government-led forced demolition. He tried to sue the local government in 2013 but was not given a chance to file his lawsuit. He continued to petition the government without result. In 2016, Ni was assaulted by local police officers and put in jail for 171 days for the crime of "disturbing public order."

Ni continued to speak against the Chinese government after coming to the United States and participated in a protest in San Francisco last November, when Xi visited the city for the APEC summit and met with U.S. President Joe Biden.

Panicking

Another Chinese immigrant who entered the United States last year via the same route as Duan and is now living in New York state spoke with VOA on the condition that his name not be used because of his undocumented status.

In a telephone interview, he said that with the recent deportations and Trump’s pledges, many in the Chinese immigrant community are a little panicked.

"After he takes office, everyone will be worried about being deported, not just us illegal immigrants,” he said. “The ones with green cards, aren’t they afraid, too?"

Before entering the United States, this man said he had openly criticized Xi on Chinese social media. He said that if he is deported, he will undoubtedly face a prison sentence in China.

The man, who is in his 30s, has already begun applying for political asylum and is still hopeful.

“Although I don't like this result [Trump's victory], this is the choice of the American people, and there is nothing I can do. We are all entering an uncertain era, and everyone's future is uncertain,” he said.

Immigration lawyer Chen said that Chinese immigrants in the U.S. who have not yet obtained legal status do face a “real threat.”

“The Republicans have already occupied both houses [of Congress], and conservatives also have a clear advantage in the Supreme Court," he said. "We can say with absolute certainty that the second Trump administration will have way more resources, in terms of manpower, law and finances, to support the implementation of his deportation plan. This is bound to happen.”

However, Chen does not think that all Chinese immigrants who apply for asylum will be unsuccessful.

“For those who have a deportation order, if you have a legal reason to apply to stay in the U.S., there is still a chance for review. It’s not easy though. The standard will be raised,” Chen said, adding that individuals need to prove that they will be persecuted if they return to their home country.
 
China has a population of 1.4 billion, what's so strange about 20,000 to 30,000 people leaving every year?

It is only 0.001 per cent of the population. This is equivalent to a person who weighs 50 kilograms pulling out only 0.0005 kilograms of excrement a year. While he may have thrown excrement into the United States, that doesn't make him unhealthy.


Let's look at those valuable population flows. For example, international students. 90% of Chinese students choose to go back to their home country to start their own business.


What is strange about this ?

Those workers work for a Chinese company that subcontracts to BYD
 
Another 4,072 Chinese illegal border jumpers arrested in December 2024

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Occupying US without firing a single shot, Europeans used to pull this trick to take over the Americas.
 
Another 3,682 Chinese illegal border jumpers arrested in January 2025

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