Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's (PTI) Rallies / Protests

[Cash gk]

Pakistan is not Bangladesh.

The vast majority of the country could not care less about PTI's dramas, and in fact would actively oppose any attempt to make their already precarious economic situation be destroyed by PTI-induced anarchy.

The only group your assessment previously applied to was the Pashtuns - but even they have been alienated by PTI and only care about tribal loyalties.

All that's left is vocal minority of english speaking kids on social media. They have neither the manpower of the awaaam, nor the influence of the elite.

Nothing will happen. The best outcome for PTI would be for SMQ to become PM and IK to spend the rest of his years in a VIP jail cell, in exile, or as President. But by killing Pakistanis to satisfy the ego of IK, they are comitting political suicide.

The only solution, which is very simple, is to give the rightful person their due—the man who single-handedly won the February 8 elections after facing fascism and brutality. Punish Asim Munir and those involved in the regime change operation, because this all started from there. The Pakistan Army lost big—it lost in the eyes of the people, the very people who are the true source of energy and power behind the nation.
Punish Asim munier in a manner that next hundred years no one even think about the treason and hang him D chock where he killed Pakistanis

 

[Cash gk]

Another mentally ill PTI-supporter wishing for terrorist takeover of Pakistan while sitting in some western country living off benefits.

I have less respect for your kind than I do bhakts. At least Bhakts defend their own country. Youthias like this one above on the other hand are shameless cucks, wishing for their latest father be it TTP or Trump to attack Pakistan.

Your comment is a disgraceful display of ignorance and hate. Instead of engaging in a meaningful discussion, you’ve stooped to spewing vile insults and baseless accusations. Labeling someone “mentally ill” or hurling dehumanizing slurs like “cucks” only reveals your own intellectual bankruptcy and lack of moral character.

You dare to speak of patriotism while mocking the loss of innocent lives in Islamabad? Shame on you. Your words reflect a toxic mentality that feeds off division and celebrates the suffering of others. Let me remind you: supporting PTI or any political movement does not mean endorsing violence, and to suggest otherwise is both dishonest and cowardly.

If you have any shred of decency, stop hiding behind insults and address issues with facts, logic, and respect. Your attitude is part of the problem—a mindset that thrives on tearing people down instead of building a better future for Pakistan. Grow up, reflect on your actions, and learn what it means to have a constructive conversation. Your hate-filled rhetoric has no place in any discourse about Pakistan’s future.

 

[Cash gk]

Mr khan rightly predicted

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[Cash gk]

The Italian channel is showing how they were killing their own people and shouting slogans like ‘Naray Heydari Naray Ya Rasool Allah"

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[Olympus81]

Contrary to what the military establishment propagandist would have one believe the agenda is not about Imran Khan release only.

There are larger issues at play here. They include writ of the state, justice for the common man, army’s role in politics, free and fair elections, free press, free judiciary and democracy.

Pakistan has none of the above unfortunately. And that is the core issue.

Pakistan military as an institution needs to realize this. The simmering rebellion movements in different parts of the country are propping up not because of PTI but due to their blunders. Therefore, withdraw to the barracks and let parliament and other pillars of the state function.

The military establishment would have loved for Imran Khan to have made a deal like his predecessors and use him as a pawn as a 3rd player in a merry go round and this would have been a BAU for them. Unfortunately for them, with the advent of social media awareness and the continuous stutter of Pakistan’s socio economic growth through the past decades, the old game plan did not work.

The arrest of IK, the election rigging, the forcing of judiciary, human rights violations, shooting and killing of protesters. What more will it take to maintain the status quo? This is a downward spiral which will be increasingly hard to get out from.

I for one would not suggest a revolution as in Pakistan case being multi ethnic society, the dynamics are as such that it will not follow a single path which may very easily go the civil war route with multiple interests vying for power.

Hence, pay heed to the public’s call and the founder’s call. You are the servant of public. Withdraw and end this impasse.

 

[Cash gk]

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[Reichmarshal]

An other very disturbing theory about this whole affair is
Since the russian invasion of afg PA has had the west n particularly the u.s engaged in afg...that's almost 50 years......their has been a constant inflow of dollars in one form or an other, which has kept the generals happy n made some of the senior most gen. Into billionaires.
But with taliban take over n u.s withdrawal all that has stopped n inspite of their best efforts no one is giving them much importance.....
So they have resorted to creating fake ops first of which was removal of ik then came may 9 false then manipulation of election n finally 27 Nov.......they r getting bolder n bolder with each false flag.
Now they want to launch the mother of all false flags ie start an insurgency in the whole of kpk by alienatingthe pashtun population.....n sell this to the west for a few miserable dollars...

 

[Dalit]

Wishful thinking. That's what the Iraqis and Americans thought would happen after the dramatic toppling of Saddam. We all know the exact opposite happened.

How will you coordinate this effort between 70+ ethnicities, tens of sects and religions, hundreds of tribes, and a population which is largely illiterate?

Pakistan is not a homogeneous ethno-state like Bangladesh where most people's interests are aligned.

If you set a precedent where the writ of the federal government can be removed by force, forget foreign nations - every local sardar, tribal elder, politician & mullah is going to devour the corpse of the federation like vultures.

Don't believe me? Just look at Kurram where the writ of the state has failed and 100+ people killed over a minor land dispute. This would be the situation in every district of Pakistan if the gov't in Islamabad was toppled by force.

PTI is playing a filthy game where we must choose between Handsum pied piper or Pakistan itself. We have already seen the same establishment atrocities under IK in the past, and we are already seeing PTI's failed governance in KP.

So tell me, even if Allah himself causes this 'revolution' to suceed, what difference will it make?

You installed PTI to power, great. Now you have the same kaali vigo kidnapping dissidents, and TLP is bringing 10x the manpower to protest in Islamabad, demanding IK resign and for SPD to nuke France. Do you accept their demand or not? Why? Apply the same reasoning to the current situation.

Had the generals truly played a positive role we wouldn't even be having this discussion today. The root cause of the entire problem is filthy rotten generals who always play divide and conquer to enrich themselves at all cost.

Don't make this about PTI/Imran Khan versus the rest. It isn't. This issue is about corrupt rotten generals.

 

[Dalit]

Contrary to what the military establishment propagandist would have one believe the agenda is not about Imran Khan release only.

There are larger issues at play here. They include writ of the state, justice for the common man, army’s role in politics, free and fair elections, free press, free judiciary and democracy.

Pakistan has none of the above unfortunately. And that is the core issue.

Pakistan military as an institution needs to realize this. The simmering rebellion movements in different parts of the country are propping up not because of PTI but due to their blunders. Therefore, withdraw to the barracks and let parliament and other pillars of the state function.

The military establishment would have loved for Imran Khan to have made a deal like his predecessors and use him as a pawn as a 3rd player in a merry go round and this would have been a BAU for them. Unfortunately for them, with the advent of social media awareness and the continuous stutter of Pakistan’s socio economic growth through the past decades, the old game plan did not work.

The arrest of IK, the election rigging, the forcing of judiciary, human rights violations, shooting and killing of protesters. What more will it take to maintain the status quo? This is a downward spiral which will be increasingly hard to get out from.

I for one would not suggest a revolution as in Pakistan case being multi ethnic society, the dynamics are as such that it will not follow a single path which may very easily go the civil war route with multiple interests vying for power.

Hence, pay heed to the public’s call and the founder’s call. You are the servant of public. Withdraw and end this impasse.

The generals have relied on a boogeyman narrative: "Without us, Pakistan won't survive." First, this is plain nonsense. Secondly, even if this were true, why haven't the generals played a neutral and positive role for all these years? The generals handpick their favorite puppet and dictate their terms and conditions to the rest. This is the script. The generals want to play God, by pulling the strings, "electing" puppets, and pretending that democracy is thriving. In reality, the generals are pulling the strings, and above them, the Americans.

What is the outcome of having such a defunct system in place? The Pakistani people haven't achieved their potential all these years. The country is sliding backwards while others are moving forward. The indicators don't lie. The generals aren't providing any solutions; they are the problem.

 

[PakFactor]

Wishful thinking. That's what the Iraqis and Americans thought would happen after the dramatic toppling of Saddam. We all know the exact opposite happened.

How will you coordinate this effort between 70+ ethnicities, tens of sects and religions, hundreds of tribes, and a population which is largely illiterate?

Pakistan is not a homogeneous ethno-state like Bangladesh where most people's interests are aligned.

If you set a precedent where the writ of the federal government can be removed by force, forget foreign nations - every local sardar, tribal elder, politician & mullah is going to devour the corpse of the federation like vultures.

Don't believe me? Just look at Kurram where the writ of the state has failed and 100+ people killed over a minor land dispute. This would be the situation in every district of Pakistan if the gov't in Islamabad was toppled by force.

PTI is playing a filthy game where we must choose between Handsum pied piper or Pakistan itself. We have already seen the same establishment atrocities under IK in the past, and we are already seeing PTI's failed governance in KP.

So tell me, even if Allah himself causes this 'revolution' to suceed, what difference will it make?

You installed PTI to power, great. Now you have the same kaali vigo kidnapping dissidents, and TLP is bringing 10x the manpower to protest in Islamabad, demanding IK resign and for SPD to nuke France. Do you accept their demand or not? Why? Apply the same reasoning to the current situation.

Your text in red:

The U.S. has more demographic splits in languages, religions, cultures, etc., with immigration as a driving force. It has remained in unison throughout the last 100+ years. The Mongols comprised various clans and tribes united under one common flag and vision. The difference between us and them is that they had a visionary leader who laid out what being an American or Mongol was: a uniting leader; you couldn't produce one. More importantly, the identity didn't revolve around one individual or family, unlike the dynasty politicians we have in Pakistan.

The same can't be said here because both political forces and military martial laws practically failed to define what a Pakistani is. When confronted about their identity, I have seen Pakistanis clinging to ideas of their ancestors being Arab or Mongol. Every other Pakistani is an Arab; when statistics show less than 10% would have Arab origin, and currently, it's diluted to such an extent it's non-existent; lastly, the Arabs don't even accept you. Throughout Pakistan's existence, it's been ruled 33 years out of 77 by martial law and rest a pseudo civilian leadership, and no one was able to sort out the country's identity and have one uniting banner where everyone can gather around. Last, these same characters played the religion card from birth and created such divisions within and rolled with it.

So, if the worry is a schism of the state, then it wasn't a state to begin with.

Your issues are much bigger and deeper than Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif, Billo Rani, etc.

 

[Musings]

Another mentally ill PTI-supporter wishing for terrorist takeover of Pakistan while sitting in some western country living off benefits.

I have less respect for your kind than I do bhakts. At least Bhakts defend their own country. Youthias like this one above on the other hand are shameless cucks, wishing for their latest father be it TTP or Trump to attack Pakistan.

Debate respectively without abusing or putting down members that don’t agree with you. We need your opinion and views without the additional abuse.
Any more and I will take action

 

[Musings]

@Fasbre2
I understand your anger bro. Please keep it civil. Let’s debate respectfully. I have left his post up but warned him. We need to allow them to speak their minds so we can expose and show the mindset.
We ought to be above the name calling etc

 

[Goenitz]

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