Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

What propaganda!

Iran's long, medium and short range defense systems are outside the cities, in villages, towns so it is completely crazy to say that Israel with their F-35s destroyed everything. We would have hundreds of videos everywhere in Iran that would demonstrate it. The propaganda of this article is a fable for children

No need to deeply argue with those that believes in this

They start to themselves question those fantasy claims that are backed by 0 proof but someone writing on internet under the "I'm a military expert so all i say is true" pretext. More like "My career is done and will lick Israel boots and support them at all costs for some bucks, even if it means lying"

Israel destroyed 100% of IADS, yet it continues to use quadcopters within Iran and ALBMs pushed to their maximum range, instead of just crossing the airspace with the biggest fighter bomber they have and throwing hundreds of tons of ordnance everywhere they want inside Iran without any resistance (because all the IADS has been destroyed)

 

[MastanKhan]

It's been 1 month and we're still waiting for just one proof for these claims

Hi,

They don't---you need to provide proof that they are not destroyed---.

How abut some retaliation---???

Iran has folded like a wet towel---.

 

[tsunset]

Hi,

They don't---you need to provide proof that they are not destroyed---.

How abut some retaliation---???

Iran has folded like a wet towel---.

I hear what you say but i don't think it works like that

If someone makes a claim, it is his job, as a journalist/reporter/military figure, to provide any kind of proof to back up his claim, this is not the other party's job to "prove that what they say is false", you don't make a claim and ask the target to prove that the claim is false, Iran asked for nothing and is on the receiving end, i doubt they are going to take pictures of random S-300 to "prove it is false", just like the rumors of Qaani death

Satellite imagery shown an intact S-300 radar

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Soon there will be parades and Iran at nearly every one of them parades Damavand (s-300), and even if it is not paraded, this would still not be a proof that Iran lost all its S-300 because it don't parade them

And same for retaliation, only time will tell

 

[Jalz]

Israel showed the 'power' of F-35s in destroying nearly all of Iran's air defenses without a loss, UK admiral says​

"It has destroyed Iran's ability to produce ballistic missiles for a year and left Tehran with a strategic dilemma in how it responds. That is the power of fifth-generation aircraft, combined with exquisite targeting and extraordinary intelligence," Radakin said. "And that was all delivered from a single sortie."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-showed-power-f-35s-002951811.html[

Lmao it was a comedic read for sure

 

[UKBengali]

Iran needs to retaliate before end of year otherwise it will just look weak and it's deterrence power degraded yet again.

There cannot be any excuses trotted out like Syria etc.

It has been 6 weeks now since the entity attacked Iran.

 

[vmro]

Hi,

They don't---you need to provide proof that they are not destroyed---.

How abut some retaliation---???

Iran has folded like a wet towel---.

Did you see any serious active high level pentagon sources about this?
John Bolton and his anti-iranian dream team are proved liars, anti-iranian level of this band was too much even for Trump, who fired him with explanation "John Bolton had sole agenda to start war with Iran...he is incapable for anything else..."


Now, when they laconic claim that Israel destroyed Iran and Hezbollah, and war in Syria proves that, you can figure out how strong are such arguments...war in Syria caught off guard Assad and SAA, for reasons still not fully clear... but anyway, Syria was always weakest part of Shia Crescent...

And Bavar-373 is better than s-300 ....and for retaliation, relax...

 

[BHAN85]

Israel killed a lot of high ranking Iran backed leaders in 2024, and bombed a lot of important facilities in Iran.

In return Iran did 2 TruePromises, that was nothing but a expensive fireworks show in Israel, with no consequences, and no casualties, but a innocent bedouin poor child, and a Palestinian civilian.

Iran must be proud I guess.

 

[OldTwilight]

It's been 1 month and we're still waiting for just one proof for these claims

The proof is that IRI couldn't do damn thing and it's talking about new negotiations.
They could not even target Syrian Terrorists ....

 

[Immortals]

one limp-wristed missile barrage is all they've managed, most shot down, some did minor damage, killed a handful.

meanwhile in Palestine...

@Lulldapull

Israel has dropped 75,000+ tons of ordnance on Gaza since 10/7. For Iran to drop even HALF that amount on Israel it would require over 30,000 missiles.

You simply cannot expect iran to match Israeli firepower from 2000KM away. Even if they were next door neighbors iran couldn’t match that unlimited ammo of Israel courtesy of USA and EU.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Israel has dropped 75,000+ tons of ordnance on Gaza since 10/7. For Iran to drop even HALF that amount on Israel it would require over 30,000 missiles.

You simply cannot expect iran to match Israeli firepower from 2000KM away. Even if they were next door neighbors iran couldn’t match that unlimited ammo of Israel courtesy of USA and EU.

Yeah, well, war is unfair. Those guys got unlimited top of the line stuff.

when you print the currency...

but I was making a point to @Lulldapull who is convinced of Iran's might and dominance in the region.

 

[Snake]

he's a politician. politicians always make crazy claims to signal red lines and establish deterrence. Israelis were making ridiculous claims after OP TP 2

No "Supreme leader" makes such statements if he's not willing to follow through. Did yahu say he would flatten Tehran?

Israel killed a lot of high ranking Iran backed leaders in 2024, and bombed a lot of important facilities in Iran.

In return Iran did 2 TruePromises, that was nothing but a expensive fireworks show in Israel, with no consequences, and no casualties, but a innocent bedouin poor child, and a Palestinian civilian.

Iran must be proud I guess.

Don't forget four soldiers killed by Israelis. At least four that have been acknowledged.

Israel has dropped 75,000+ tons of ordnance on Gaza since 10/7. For Iran to drop even HALF that amount on Israel it would require over 30,000 missiles.

You simply cannot expect iran to match Israeli firepower from 2000KM away. Even if they were next door neighbors iran couldn’t match that unlimited ammo of Israel courtesy of USA and EU.

I doubt anyone expects Iran to literally replicate Israeli attacks but at least spill some blood, take down a building, anything other than shooting sand dunes.

 

[Immortals]

I doubt anyone expects Iran to literally replicate Israeli attacks but at least spill some blood, take down a building, anything other than shooting sand dunes.

Iran did hit buildings (bases) including some bases that were censored by IDF and western firms won’t publish anti Israel images. That being said no matter the damage, it’s not going to be game changing or significant. Look at how many bases and outposts and towers Hezbollah hit against Israel. What did it do? Nothing major in the long run. They will be rebuilt.

You aren’t going to destroy Israel with some rockets and missiles anymore you will destroy Iran with some airstrikes. Even Ukraine is intact despite 2 years of war.

Plus you have to remember Israel is tiny and has a lot less territory to protect than Iran. That means AD systems are way more effective having to protect a sliver of land then one of the biggest countries in Asia.

So that means if Iran went after Israeli economic assets than Israel could easily destroy many of Iran’s vulnerable energy assets.

The difference is Israel would have engineers pouring in working on fixing and replacing their equipment from the west, while Iran would have to do it all itself with significantly less tech and production capability. Iran spending hundreds or billions of dollars to replace its oil terminals and refineries is much more damaging.

Simply put, iran doesn’t have a great set of options in terms of directly dealing with Israel.

 

[UKBengali]

Iran did hit buildings (bases) including some bases that were censored by IDF and western firms won’t publish anti Israel images. That being said no matter the damage, it’s not going to be game changing or significant. Look at how many bases and outposts and towers Hezbollah hit against Israel. What did it do? Nothing major in the long run. They will be rebuilt.

You aren’t going to destroy Israel with some rockets and missiles anymore you will destroy Iran with some airstrikes. Even Ukraine is intact despite 2 years of war.

Plus you have to remember Israel is tiny and has a lot less territory to protect than Iran. That means AD systems are way more effective having to protect a sliver of land then one of the biggest countries in Asia.

So that means if Iran went after Israeli economic assets than Israel could easily destroy many of Iran’s vulnerable energy assets.

The difference is Israel would have engineers pouring in working on fixing and replacing their equipment from the west, while Iran would have to do it all itself with significantly less tech and production capability. Iran spending hundreds or billions of dollars to replace its oil terminals and refineries is much more damaging.

Simply put, iran doesn’t have a great set of options in terms of directly dealing with Israel.

One destroyed power station in the Zionist entity is equal to 10 destroyed power stations in Iran. Iran has 10x of all civilian infrastructure.

A destroyed power station will take a minimum of 2 years to replace.

Even a severely damaged power station will take a year to put back into service.

 

[Immortals]

One destroyed power station in the Zionist entity is equal to 10 destroyed power stations in Iran. Iran has 10x of all civilian infrastructure.

A destroyed power station will take a minimum of 2 years to replace.

Even a severely damaged power station will take a year to put back into service.

Nonsense, if that were true then Ukraine would be darkness right now after all those attacks on its power grid over and over.

It’s not as easy as you think permanently knocking out a power grid, especially by a country supported by the West to the extent of Israel.

And Iran already does rolling black outs with its current power grid, what do you think will happen when its ancient grid is attacked? Who will supply the parts to rebuild the transformer stations and power plants? Russia? China?

What you are suggesting is not a plan, it’s just a philosophy of “**** shit up and see if that works”. That’s what Hamas did on 10/7 and look what that got Gaza and Lebanon.

 

[UKBengali]

It’s not as easy as you think permanently knocking out a power grid, especially by a country supported by the West to the extent of Israel.

Who talked about permanently knocking out a power grid?

The grid itself matters little if the power stations cannot function anyway.

Fun fact - the two coal fired power stations in Occupied Palestine generate 50% of all electricity for the entity.

I think everyone is now aware that at the least Iran can severely damage both of them and we are talking minimum of 1 year to get them operational again.

My point is to emphasize the entity's vulnerability as it has 10x less infrastructure. Yes Iran is also vulnerable but unless we acknowledge the tiny size of the entity(compared to Iran), then any analysis would not be very accurate.