US will run out of missiles in war with China, lose the conflict, warns Congressional wargame

[Beijingwalker]

hi,

chinese fought past wars with usa against other soldiers---.

this time their soldiers will fight against monster who will show no mercy---.

understand---the modern usa soldier is trained full of contempt for any other nationality---.

This american army is the Hulugu Khans mongol army which loves to murder---destroy---decimate one and all without conscience and in the name of righteous religion---.

lol, We saw them fighting in Afghanistan, when was the last time they fought a worthy enemy? Fighting China? when will you give them order to come?

 

[Beijingwalker]

A nation---that cannot reach US mainland with its weapons---can scrape the skin off the americans and nothing more---.

China can reach Moon and Mars, what makes you believe Chinese weapons can not reach US?

China's openness about its latest nuclear missile test shows growing confidence vis-à-vis the United States

With its latest missile test, China displays a growing confidence in its nuclear arsenal. It also offers an opportunity for nuclear talks with the United States.

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[Beijingwalker]

@Beijingwalker
I don't want to degrade China achievements infont of USA but let's wait..... it's too early to assume by such small things you are comparable to USA......

"Let's wait for what"? You think the time is on US side or China's side? for another 10 or 20 years, do you believe US will be in a better position than it is now comparing to China?

 

[SolarWarden]

lol, We saw them fighting in Afghanistan, when was the last time they fought a worthy enemy? Fighting China? when will you give them order to come?

When was the last time Chinos fought anyone? Yu people are nothing but paper tigers like the Russians. Your military is only good for media/propaganda like parades and exercises. Chino military branches don't fight as a unit... they have no combine arms capability and no Joint-Command capability. US will easily exploit this HUGE weakness with total control of EM spectrum and battle space picture.

-Over the past 5 years, China has undertaken radical reform of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). This modification is sweeping in its scope (encompassing changes to strategy, force structure, and technology) and clear in its purpose to create, in the words of Xi Jinping, a joint force that can “fight and win.”1 If this reform succeeds, China’s regional neighbors and the United States could find that the People’s Republic, whose leadership is already demonstrating an increased assertiveness, will be emboldened further still. Successful reform is not assured—indeed, many of China’s previous attempts at military transformation have failed—but Xi does wield near-unprecedented power to force change. It is therefore prudent to assume this reform will succeed and understand both its consequences and how best to respond.

This article analyzes PLA reforms and identifies vulnerabilities in China’s new joint force. The first section analyzes the changes to the Central Military Commission (CMC), the highest level of the PLA, set in the context of China’s model of national decisionmaking and civil-military relations. The second section considers the restructuring of the PLA, focusing particularly on its new Strategic Support Force (SSF) and revised theater-level organization. The third section explores the measures that could disrupt and defeat this new joint force via targeting the vulnerabilities identified in sections one and two.

The article anticipates that four key vulnerabilities will exist within the reformed PLA. First, the joint force will embrace a model of highly centralized decisionmaking, which could prove ill-suited to the demands of major combat operations. Second, the reformed PLA force will struggle to integrate multidomain operations at the joint theater level. Third, the reformed PLA will lack the capabilities to project, sustain, or command its forces across the spread of China’s global interests. And last, the PLA is currently hindered by a lack of meaningful operational experience.

Understanding the Vulnerabilities in China’s New Joint Force

This article analyzes PLA reforms and identifies vulnerabilities in China’s new joint force. The first section analyzes the changes to the Central Military Commission (CMC), the highest level of the

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READ THE ARTICLE to understand.

The problem with people like Yu is you think like a noob a kind of childlike mentality Chino fanboys suffer from. You see propaganda of many new ships, fighters, stealth fighters, missiles, etc etc etc... and logic goes out the window with Yu folks. When people try to tell Yu this kind of sht Yu people dismiss it as if you're mental and start yapping Chyna stronk blah blah this, blah blah that.

Yu people (PLA) lack so much when it comes to a kinetic confrontation with a superpower under high-tech conditions. Yu have no idea how important it is to have allies with advance militaries of their own. US and its allies can have combat exercises using their full EM spectrum against each other unlike PLA and Russian military. When PLA and Russia have combat exercise they don't go all out when it comes to the EM realm because they don't want to give their EM secrets away like electronic frequences, that is not case for US and majority of its allies.

It took years and years to get US military branches to fight as one it is going to be more difficult for PLA because each commander of PLA branches are their own little dictators that are high ranking members of the CCP and got their position not on merit but on who they know. One branch commander can tell another branch commander to piss off and Xi needs to them to be happy since Xi needs them to keep him in power.

I'll leave you with this... Last time PLA went to war was in 1989 against unarmed civilians yet PLA still took a lot of casualties.

 

[Beijingwalker]

When was the last time Chinos fought anyone?

When was the last time Yankees fought anyone? You are going to tell me Houthis, aren't you?

 

[ziaulislam]

Hi,

That was from the initial days of bombings---. The americans changed the tactics and strategy and brought down the losses. Realistically---the Viets felt the might of the US air power for the first time in reality thru all that conflict---.

After the first 24 hours---they began to understand the true might of the american behemoth---. After 72 hours---the viets were BEGGING the americans to stop---.

In 24 hours of the start of the operation linebacker 2----they were desperately trying to make the US come back to the peace table---.

Most readers don't understand that by the time the US will run out of ammo---the other nation's industrial complex will be in cinders---.

Other nations excluding super powers who can built weapons faster


Every dick tom harry and larry knows that USA has excellent manufacturing power which is unfortunate second to china (not to none)

In prolong conventional war usa will run out very quickly of its conventional stock piles and wont be able ti outpace china

 

[SolarWarden]

When was the last time Yankees fought anyone? You are going to tell me Houthis, aren't you?

Be alert to China’s military weaknesses:

-Some of those who want to appease Beijing assert that China’s military superiority would enable it to defeat the US over Taiwan. Like the supposed superior strengths of the Chinese economy, these arguments are based on false premises. The fact is China’s military strength is entirely unproven in practical terms and, like its ally Russia, China has serious military weaknesses.

As the well-regarded Swedish Defence Research Agency has recently observed, a rethink of Moscow’s military capability is clearly warranted to understand the causes of the current malaise in Russia’s military capabilities. The agency says that is needed both for the West to adjust to its demonstrable shortcomings and weaknesses and, equally importantly, to understand their causes and long-term strategic implications. In my view, Western intelligence analysts and policymakers have consistently overrated Russia’s and the Soviet Union’s military strengths. And precisely the same mistakes are now being made about China’s PLA.

What are the reasons for this? First, as Professor Zoltan Barany of the University of Texas has argued: when the adversary is a totalitarian state it is easier to make judgements based on quantitative assessments of counting weapons—tanks, jet fighters, and missiles—and raw manpower, rather than on the qualitative and psychological characteristics that often determine the military’s performance on the battlefield.

Second, because of Russia’s and China’s autocratic systems and pervasive corruption, it has proved difficult for them to bring the kinds of innovation, adaptability, and versatility that tend to produce the best outcomes on the battlefield. The fact is it is easy to concentrate on the material strengths of both China and Russia that can be counted by overhead means of intelligence, while neglecting crucial intangibles such as the quality and experience of their troops.

Third, one of the most serious intangible defects of China’s and Russia’s military forces is that they lack a critical mass of professionally trained NCOs. The dearth of professional non-commissioned officers means that totalitarian armies are unable to fight effectively because NCOs provide the vital link between officers and soldiers about battlefield decision-making. Military command and control culture boils down to trust, including at the operational level.

Trust is not one of the strengths of authoritarian states like China and Russia. As the US Center for Security and Emerging Technology has observed, military command and control in such authoritarian regimes have rigid and fragmented command and control structures because the political leadership does not trust the military leadership, and the military does not trust the rank-and-file. Such systems fail to successfully share information, discourage initiative, and prevent battlefield lessons from informing strategy or being incorporated into future military doctrine. These critical structural deficiencies are part of both China’s and Russia’s military DNA.

Fourth, there has been far too much focus on weapons systems and new technology and endless claims that each new Chinese or Russian weapon is so much superior to those of the US. An example of this recently was when an ‘expert’ in Canberra proclaimed that China’s latest nuclear attack submarine was quieter than the US Virginia class. That sort of ill-informed judgement is typical of those who have never had the security clearance for close-quarter covert submarine operations or an understanding that the US still dominates war under the seas. For example, China’s strategic nuclear submarines (SSBNs) do not provide Beijing with an assured nuclear second-strike force because they are very vulnerable to US attack submarines (SSNs).

Fifth, few in the West pay close attention to the actual composition, training, and preparedness of Russian and Chinese troops themselves or their ability to operate as a joint force outside of artificial planned exercises.

And sixth, authoritarian leaderships in both China and Russia are typified by deep-seated despotism that typifies military politics, and pervasive corruption that saps the fighting strength of their armed forces.

Finally, it is little understood in the West that the oath of allegiance of PLA soldiers is to the Communist Party of China, whereas that of the Soviet Army was to defend the USSR. Chinese troops must waste much of their time studying and regurgitating Communist Party propaganda, which further detracts from their military expertise. Long may they continue to waste their military training spending countless hours on such irrelevant ideology as Xi Jinping’s Thought!

None of this is to argue that the weaknesses and deficiencies of both China and Russia are identical. But the fact remains that much more so than Russia, China has no practical combat experience worth talking about. Its last serious use of force overseas was in 1979 when it sought to teach Vietnam a lesson—and failed miserably.

The believers in Australia of China’s military superiority seem to accept that China has the means and the will to escalate indefinitely and thereby defeat the US and that China is also prepared to pay any price because it enjoys escalatory dominance and cannot be deterred. My view is that the hypothetical of a defeated US in Taiwan (and perhaps at the same time NATO in Europe) increases the risks of nuclear war. Those who argue that we should surrender Taiwan to China or risk nuclear confrontation fail to understand China’s military weaknesses.

In conclusion, we need much more serious and in-depth analyses of China’s military weaknesses and deficiencies. I reject the arguments of those who proclaim that the risks are too high of resisting and deterring a China that allegedly has superior military forces to those of America. Those who carelessly assert that the US is finished, that China inevitably will be the dominant military power over the entire Asia-Pacific region, and that our only survival will be to get out of the ANZUS Alliance need to think again. Their argument is based on very shaky views of China’s military superiority which is a superficial and untested assertion.

The fact is that China shares many of the fatal weaknesses of Russia’s military, which is performing so abysmally in Moscow’s war in Ukraine. I believe that the prudent defensive policy of the US and its allies in the Asia-Pacific region, including Australia, must be to acquire the military capabilities to constrain, check and deter any expansionist ambitions of the PLA.

Be alert to China’s military weaknesses | The Strategist

Some of those who want to appease Beijing assert that China’s military superiority would enable it to defeat the US over Taiwan. Like the supposed superior strengths of the Chinese economy, these arguments are based ...

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You're a paper tiger but too dumb to recognize it.

 

[Beijingwalker]

You're a paper tiger but too dumb to recognize it.

lol, do you know who invented this phrase and for whom it was invented?

 

[Beijingwalker]

70 years ago China called US a paper tiger, now US calls China a paper tiger, lol, what a change of fortune over time.

 

[SolarWarden]

lol, do you know who invented this phrase and for whom it was invented?

See how dumb Yu make yourself look? Yu can't stick to the topic/post so instead Yu deflect with gibberish post so that Yu don't have to answer to what I posted.

 

[Beijingwalker]

See how dumb Yu make yourself look? Yu can't stick to the topic/post so instead Yu deflect with gibberish post so that Yu don't have to answer to what I posted.

lol, your own profile photo show how stupid you are, you just post garbage.

 

[MastanKhan]

Other nations excluding super powers who can built weapons faster


Every dick tom harry and larry knows that USA has excellent manufacturing power which is unfortunate second to china (not to none)

In prolong conventional war usa will run out very quickly of its conventional stock piles and wont be able ti outpace china

Hi,

You have an extremely poor understanding of the US industrial complex and war fighting capabilities---.

There will be no prolonged war---. War being fought on mainland china---then china will suffer the damage---.

 

[MastanKhan]

China can reach Moon and Mars, what makes you believe Chinese weapons can not reach US?

China's openness about its latest nuclear missile test shows growing confidence vis-à-vis the United States

With its latest missile test, China displays a growing confidence in its nuclear arsenal. It also offers an opportunity for nuclear talks with the United States.

thebulletin.org

Hi,

If they can---then they can---. I did not say they they cannot---.

 

[ziaulislam]

Hi,

You have an extremely poor understanding of the US industrial complex and war fighting capabilities---.

There will be no prolonged war---. War being fought on mainland china---then china will suffer the damage---.

Yeah so poor understanding that even the Drones usa are testing are made by chinese/unitree

So poor understanding that usa cant produce anything without getting the minerals it need from china.

 

[Pingle]

"Let's wait for what"? You think the time is on US side or China's side? for another 10 or 20 years, do you believe US will be in a better position than it is now comparing to China?

History repeats... USA is there to stay for one more century.... accept the supremacy and bow bow down.....