Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Sinan]

I am not Shia so stop crying and I am just sharing my views, just like everyone else on this forum. Iraq has autonomous Kurdish region so alot of people think Kurdish SDF which is backed by USA will create a similar region in Syria. It may not happen noone can guarantee but it's a high possibility.

Iraq has a autonomous region because Barzanis are our puppets. They even fight against PKK.

Syria is different, PKK is controlling some cities with US support, in a confined space. Turkish Airforce killing their leaders time to time. Was waiting for Russia and US to drawback their soldiers. With Russians gone, Mambij is taken. US will not stay there for eternity. Most possibly when Trump takes office he is gonna say" This is not our war, we will not be part of endless wars of Middle-East".

Then the new Syrian Government (saying Syrian Government sounds nice to my ears now) will take back their territories. Kurds there are a little minority originating from Qamışlı, Haseke, Afrin town, rural areas belong to Arab tribes.

 

[Sinan]

Dude you can't be so naive...Hamas themselves are MB.

Go discuss with MME, Greeks are too tiring to discuss on Middle Eastern issues.

 

[hussain0216]

It depends on whether there is any resistance.

The rest of Golan heights is already gone to the entity and they could easily take many thousands of square kms next to the Golan as there will be no resistance to them at this moment due to civil war.

@Meengla

The entity now has a brilliant opportunity to create a large "buffer zone" in SW Syria.

Yep at this moment, everyone is distracted and the Jews being Jews would at least be tempted to steal more land

 

[Mehdipersian]

Iraq has a autonomous region because Barzanis are our puppets. They even fight against PKK.

Syria is different, PKK is controlling some cities with US support, in a confined space. Turkish Airforce killing their leaders time to time. Was waiting for Russia and US to drawback their soldiers. With Russians gone, Mambij is taken. US will not stay there for eternity. Most possibly when Trump takes office he is gonna say" This is not our war, we will not be part of endless wars of Middle-East".

Then the new Syrian Government (saying Syrian Government sounds nice to my ears now) will take back their territories. Kurds there are a little minority originating from Qamışlı, Haseke, Afrin town, rural areas belong to Arab tribes.

Your Western and Jewish master is planning to create Kurdistan.

You cannot confront America and Israel.

You cannot do anything against the Kurds of Syria, like the Kurds of Iraq, they will soon form a country, the next turn is the Kurds of Turkey.

 

[Arabia]

This is why the Arabs have failed to unite the Islamic nations around the world.

I already told you that there is no united Arab front or any united Muslim front for that matter my friend. Today in 2024there are are 20 + independent Arab states each with 20 + regimes with their own interests, policies, rivalries, internal competition, sometimes even dislike etc. Just like the Pakistani regime (military and corrupt politicians) and their policies are not the will of the people.

Do you honestly believe that when (if - we will never know if this is true but unfortunately I would not be surprised) that if certain Arab regimes (that used to be against Al-Assad) are fearful of the Syrian opposition (due to internal Arab political dynamics and issues I have already discussed), this means that most local Arabs now love Assad. Or when the regimes signed a peace deal with Iran (in practice a good thing if that regime stopped their policy), now everyone suddenly loved the Iranian regime? Now how it works.

Unity works through action, not cheap talk. Syrians just proved that in the past 2 weeks after almost everyone was taking them for dead and proclaiming Al-Assad to be the life-long ruler of Syria. I think everyone was surprised.

Right now, there is no Arab regime that represents the common will of Arabs. If they did, they would long ago have created or turned the Arab League into a NATO movement or a EU movement and started taking their own affairs in to their own hands. Instead they are their own biggest enemies. I refuse to have anything to do with that unless I see changes. This goes for all the Muslim World. You think that I believe that the current Pakistan is a true representative of Pakistanis?

 

[RAJPUT]

The Arab world is the home to the world's oldest civilization so your first claim is pure nonsense. Arabia had some of the oldest recorded civilizations as well whose artifacts are still standing to this day. A few Google searches is all that is needed.

I am not lecturing anybody, it was your compatriot that was attacking Arabs shamelessly and taking credit for things that he had nothing to do with.

I don't care about your anti-Arab ramblings. I suggest you return to Hinduism or whatever your ancestors believed in and stop using Arabic alphabets, Arabic names, Islam, Arabic cultural practices etc. and totally dissociate yourself from us since your likes hate Arabs based on propaganda and inferiority complexes.

Not only that you shamelessly try to play God and saying who of the over half billion Arabs are Muslims and who not and how good or bad Muslims they are. Stop making me laugh. Whatever ills Arabs have, which they have like everybody else, Pakistanis surely have as well so stop this nonsense.

Did you even read my passage? Your knee jerk response shows your inferiority complex and the pea sized brain you possess. And who are you to tell us what to believe in? My ancestors laid their lives for protection of Islam. My ancestors fought against the Hindu armies invading Habibwal and Ibrahimwal putting their lives on the line to save their muslim brethren.
All Arabs were once pagan, so this rhetoric of "our religion" is so stupid. Religion and Culture are not the same. This is the difference between Islam and all other pagan religions. Islam is meant to be universal. If you want a regional religion, I suggest you look into Judaism or Christianity.
And we had the oldest known civilization a 100km away from my hometown. Look into Indus Valley Civilization and come talk to me about oldest recorded civilization. You people were worshipping fire and indulged in paganism before Allah bestowed us with the Prophet to pull you out of paganism. By your own logic, go back to worshipping fire and the moon. Now before you reply, read my previous reply and tell me where was I anti-Arab? I just talked about my personal experience about the racism embedded in your people for reason alien to me. Islam never taught us to be on a higher pedestal solely on the basis of caste and creed.

 

[ziaulislam]

Iraq has a autonomous region because Barzanis are our puppets. They even fight against PKK.

Syria is different, PKK is controlling some cities with US support, in a confined space. Turkish Airforce killing their leaders time to time. Was waiting for Russia and US to drawback their soldiers. With Russians gone, Mambij is taken. US will not stay there for eternity. Most possibly when Trump takes office he is gonna say" This is not our war, we will not be part of endless wars of Middle-East".

Then the new Syrian Government (saying Syrian Government sounds nice to my ears now) will take back their territories. Kurds there are a little minority originating from Qamışlı, Haseke, Afrin town, rural areas belong to Arab tribes.

Kurds should take a similar arrangement as Iraq be happy with it

 

[Sinan]

Your Western and Jewish master is planning to create Kurdistan.

You cannot confront America and Israel.

You cannot do anything against the Kurds of Syria, like the Kurds of Iraq, they will soon form a country, the next turn is the Kurds of Turkey.

I feel your pain, let me cry with you.

 

[EugeneP]

Remember when the Taliban took power again and they promised everyone they would allow more freedom and they they tried to convince the West that they had changed and how they had become realists and merciful? And then they got back to their old self the in just 2 years.

Taliban may be repellent to many people for their lack of modernity, but I think they are sticking to Sharia rule as closely as possible. I think what you see in Afghanistan today is a primitive 8th century tribal society. A bit like our Amish (Pennsylvania Dutch) with their cute horse-drawn wagons, women in long skirts milking cows with their hands etc., Only in case of Taliban it is stoning, beheading and wanton misogyny.

 

[Arabia]

What is your problem with the Shia? Do you still have bad memories of the Safavid Empire?

Weren't they your Turkish-Azeri brothers? What happened to you, now you became a Takfiri?

Look my Irani friend. Nobody has a problem with Shia. At least not Arabs. You probably already know that Shias are native to the Arab world and the first and oldest Shia communities are found in the Arab world in particular in modern-day KSA where they live safe and peacefully. The problem of us Arabs that are against your regime's destructive meddling in the Arab world, is that you use cheap religious slogans, helped a bloodthirsty dictator in Al-Assad (even though he was a self-proclaimed secular Ba'athi Arab nationalist and you claim to be an Islamic republic and you thought with the same type in Iraq - Saddam), to meddle, brainwash and take advantage of disfranchises Shia Arab minorities from Zaydis in Yemen (that had nothing to do with you until 20 years ago) to Southern Lebanon to Iraqi proxy militias that even the Shia-ruled Iraqi government has and have had problems with. Instead of playing a constructive role you used fake slogans to expand your influence in the Arab world and to take advantage of those small marginal Shia Arab groups aligned to you or whom you supported opportunistically.

Stop trying to take a copyright of Shia Islam. It does not belong to Iran or Iranians.

And in the real world, most Iranians are not even religious or practicing Shia Muslims. You guys have the lowest mosque attendances in the world even though you have claimed to be an Islamic republic for the past 45 years.

You guys really need to stop obsessing about events 1400 years ago and try to have cordial relations with your much bigger Arab neighbors.

I am telling you that by 2050, Yemen alone will have more people than Iran. You already made Syrians (another country experiencing a huge demographic boom) an enemy of you for no reason.

Unlike Iranians here which many I doubt have never travelled outside of Iran or met any Arabs outside of Iran, most Iranians that I have met share much in common with Arabs which is self-evident as neighbors.

You decide what you want to do but the meddling in war-torn Arab countries (only way for you to be able to meddle in the first place) is coming to an end.

Mark my words, in less than 5-10 years, Houthis will be forced to ally with KSA just due to economics alone and the fact that Yemeni and Saudi Arabian people are brotherly people in particular in the border regions. So this project of years has been futile, as seen with events in Syria. It has been 3 years without any events during the ceasefire and daily Saudi Arabian ships are passing the Bab el-Mandeb without any incident so far. And unlike the UAE, that wants to balkanize Yemen, like they are doing in Syria, KSA is so far preventing this from happening. Anyway I have seen positive steps from some Iranian officials of wanting to embrace KSA more, talk of investments and even military exercises in the Red Sea. Those are good steps to have normal and cordial neighborly ties without silly, destructive and time-wasting conflicts.

 

[Dalit]

I already told you that there is no united Arab front or any united Muslim front for that matter my friend. Today in 2024there are are 20 + independent Arab states each with 20 + regimes with their own interests, policies, rivalries, internal competition, sometimes even dislike etc. Just like the Pakistani regime (military and corrupt politicians) and their policies are not the will of the people.

Do you honestly believe that when (if - we will never know if this is true but unfortunately I would not be surprised) that if certain Arab regimes (that used to be against Al-Assad) are fearful of the Syrian regime (due to internal Arab political dynamics and issues I have already discussed), this means that most local Arabs now love Assad. Or when the regimes signed a peace deal with Iran (in practice a good thing if that regime stopped their policy), now everyone suddenly loved the Iranian regime? Now how it works.

Unity works through action, not cheap talk. Syrians just proved that in the past 2 years after almost everyone was taking them for dead and proclaiming Al-Assad to be the life-long ruler of Syria. I think everyone was surprised.

Right now, there is no Arab regime that represents the common will of Arabs. If they did, they would long ago have created or turned the Arab League into a NATO movement or a EU movement and started taking their own affairs in to their own hands. Instead they are their own biggest enemies. I refuse to have anything to do with that unless I see changes. This goes for all the Muslim World. You think that I believe that the current Pakistan is a true representative of Pakistanis?

Saudi Arabia out of all Islamic countries should play a positive and uniting role in the Islamic world. Saudi Arabia has a major responsibility. Unfortunately Saudi leaders are shortsighted and frankly speaking pathetic like the rest.

We don't have any expectations from Pakistan to be honest.

 

[Tamerlane]

Taliban may be repellent to many people for their lack of modernity, but I think they are sticking to Sharia rule as closely as possible. I think what you see in Afghanistan today is a primitive 8th century tribal society. A bit like our Amish (Pennsylvania Dutch) with their cute horse-drawn wagons, women in long skirts milking cows with their hands etc., Only in case of Taliban it is stoning, beheading and wanton misogyny.

That’s what Ronald Reagan thought.

 

[Sinan]

Kurds should take a similar arrangement as Iraq be happy with it

Nope, these are PKK kurds, we won't let them anything. At the start of the Turkey called Syrian Kurdish leaders, told them to cut ties with PKK and Turkey would support them.

PYD lideri Ankara'da

Kobani'de IŞİD'le mücadele eden PYD'nin Eşbaşkanı Salih Müslim, Türkiye'de. Ankara geçen hafta yardım için Türkiye'nin şartlarını hatırlatmıştı.

www.aljazeera.com.tr

They refused and sealed their fate. There will be ethnic cleansing. You will remember me when it happens and see large refugee convoys going to Iraq.

 

[Amir Mahajane]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/aywTe89p9V

 

[Dalit]

Did you even read my passage? Your knee jerk response shows your inferiority complex and the pea sized brain you possess. And who are you to tell us what to believe in? My ancestors laid their lives for protection of Islam. My ancestors fought against the Hindu armies invading Habibwal and Ibrahimwal putting their lives on the line to save their muslim brethren.
All Arabs were once pagan, so this rhetoric of "our religion" is so stupid. Religion and Culture are not the same. This is the difference between Islam and all other pagan religions. Islam is meant to be universal. If you want a regional religion, I suggest you look into Judaism or Christianity.
And we had the oldest known civilization a 100km away from my hometown. Look into Indus Valley Civilization and come talk to me about oldest recorded civilization. You people were worshipping fire and indulged in paganism before Allah bestowed us with the Prophet to pull you out of paganism. By your own logic, go back to worshipping fire and the moon. Now before you reply, read my previous reply and tell me where was I anti-Arab? I just talked about my personal experience about the racism embedded in your people for reason alien to me. Islam never taught us to be on a higher pedestal solely on the basis of caste and creed.

Arabs are extremely nationalistic. They shouldn't be as the bearers of Islam. Islam doesn't preach nationalitism.