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[GoatsMilk]

I dont care about what happens to Iran or Russia right now. They both big boys and know what they are doing.

I care about how Turkey has just destroyed Syria as a country. Totally destroyed Syria and its future. I care about how Israel is starting to turn Syria into northern Gaza with all of its bombing. I care about how Turkeys intervention has totally destroyed all of Syria defence capability, infrastructure. I care about how Syria can no longer protect itself from Israel now. I understand how Turkey does not care, but I do care for Syria and the Syrian people.

Syria will be rebuilt by Turks, don't you worry about it.

All that remains is for the last imperial project in the north to be crushed, the PKK. Once this is achieved a Syria will be turned into a strong state by Turkiye.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Syria will be rebuilt by Turks, don't you worry about it.

All that remains is for the last imperial project in the north to be crushed, the PKK. Once this is achieved a Syria will be turned into a strong state by Turkiye.

No it wont.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Translation for those of us zoo-challenged?

The descendants of the people of the Gokturks, the people who built such empires like the Ottomans, Safavids, Mughuls, the people who saved the Abbasids from the Persians. Are fully capable of outplaying the regional peasantry.

 

[hyperman]

No it wont.

Bro Assad gone man, you gotto move on, he likely ain't coming back. lol, you are imagining all sorts of worst case scenarios, just to feel validated/vindication rather than step back or imagine a possibility that you miscalculated the attachment to Assad.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Bro Assad gone man, you gotto move on, he likely ain't coming back. lol, you are imagining all sorts of worst case scenarios, just to feel validated/vindication rather than step back or imagine a possibility that you miscalculated the attachment to Assad.

I dont care about Assad. I never did. I would have loved to have seen Assad's head on a spike.

I care about Syria.

I am not imagining worst case scenarios. I am witnessing them now...

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Israel is destroying decades of Syrian miliary equipment, infrastructure, facilities that would have cost hundreds of billions of dollars to put together. That is not an "imaginary possibility", that is reality that is happening now.

Syria can never recover its defensive capabilities now, or ever infact. The depth of damage is too great. That is the depth of damage Turkey has done with its HTS launched proxy invasion of Syria.

People who are saying "trust me bro, turkey will put it all right, have no concept of the depth of destruction that Israel is doing ...".

This is not about Assad, it never was. It was, is, about Syria...

 

[ResurgentIran2]

Bro Assad gone man, you gotto move on, he likely ain't coming back. lol, you are imagining all sorts of worst case scenarios, just to feel validated/vindication rather than step back or imagine a possibility that you miscalculated the attachment to Assad.

You can still be for Syrias integrity including its military capacity to defend itself, without being pro Assad. Most here wont shed a tear if Assad gets hit by a bus. Assad proved to be useless and a coward, so we can all agree with that.

But the issue before us as we speak is while ya'll are drunk on your so called success, the Israeli military is utterly DESTROYING every key Syrian military asset, and stripping Syria of its ability to defend itself.
This does not bother you? It doesnt faze you?

 

[Oublious]

lol more then 50 years assad dynasty Syria was a shithole and next 50 years with Iran and Russia would be a shithole. IF people believe it would go like this for next 10 years are dumb, earlier it collapsed and reset all the better.

Syrians living like shits all over the world and people are thinking off Israel. A weak sick dead Syria with Assad was much better for israel then a strong Syria.

 

[hyperman]

I dont care about Assad. I never did. I would have loved to have seen Assad's head on a spike.

I care about Syria.

I am not imagining worst case scenarios. I am witnessing them now...

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Israel is destroying decades of Syrian miliary equipment, infrastructure, facilities that would have cost hundreds of billions of dollars to put together. That is not an "imaginary possibility", that is reality that is happening now.

Syria can never recover its defensive capabilities now, or ever infact. The depth of damage is too great. That is the depth of damage Turkey has done with its HTS launched proxy invasion of Syria.

People who are saying "trust me bro, turkey will put it all right, have no concept of the depth of destruction that Israel is doing ...".

This is not about Assad, it never was. It was, is, about Syria...

Im sorry but If the rebels were able to defeat this army then its equipment wasn't much to begin with. The SAA was a rag tag militia at the end of this 13 year conflict. I don't think they had billions and billions worth of equipment that supposedly existed.

All this supposed care for Syria. Why don't you ask the Syrians what they want? if they would rather have what they have now or this military equipment that somehow gives Assad's army such amazing capability. I'm pretty sure the majority of them would say they prefer the option without people being disappeared and mass murdered in prisons and all sorts of oppression from Assad.

This is not about Assad, it never was. It was, is, about Syria...

Yeah I know, its about Iran and their "resistance". So much resistance for the sake of Palestine that the syrians just need to shut up and be murdered and slaughtered and dominated by Assad and his clan. All for the sake of Iran's "resistance".

At the end of the day this is not what Syrians wanted, it wasn't what Palestinians wanted, Hamas for example supported the Syrian opposition as is the sentiment amongst the majority of Palestinians even. But yeah they don't know better, they are too dumb, you know better what is "good" for them. lol

If Assad cared so much for Syria why didn't he step down and allow for a stable transition? or even reconcile with opposition. No even refused to allow refugees to return. I'm sorry but I'm sick of this BS narrative, of Savior Assad holding back the Israelis and protecting Syria. Why couldn't he resign for the sake of Syrian instead of having Syria burn for the sake of his own power. And then rather then die fighting till the end like Sinwar atleast had the decency to do, he fled like a coward, no speech no nothing.

 

[hyperman]

This does not bother you? It doesnt faze you?

It does bother me, but what do you want me to do? Of course it bothers me, what is the solution for this? if You tell me, just let assad murder and rape people in his prison, murder people with barrel bombs, millions of syrians around the world are displaced, and he wouldn't allow them to return home.

I'm sorry I don't accept this.

I watched the Idlib pocket get bombed every day since the Astana agreement "ceasefire" almost 7-8 years ago, that bothered me greatly. But the same people that supposedly care about Syrians cheered it on.

Its also incredibly rich, when i know for a fact that there were many in Iran who cheered on the Iraq invasion by the US, under their basis of Shia in Iraq being freed from Saddam and Iran gaining strategic depth and the removal of the man who invaded Iran.

I'm going to speak quite frankly here, from what i can see, Most Syrians support the Opposition, most Palestinians supported the opposition, and most Sunni Arabs supported the Opposition, Most Turks supported the Syrian opposition. The only people that opposed the opposition seem to be those in the Iranian sphere whether Iranians themselves or coconfessionalists, which make one wonder whether this is all really about the interests of Palestine and Syria or whether its about vested Shia/Iranian interests with regards to Hezbollah and the Iranian corridor to Lebanon.

 

[hyperman]

You can still be for Syrias integrity including its military capacity to defend itself, without being pro Assad. Most here wont shed a tear if Assad gets hit by a bus. Assad proved to be useless and a coward, so we can all agree with that.

But the issue before us as we speak is while ya'll are drunk on your so called success, the Israeli military is utterly DESTROYING every key Syrian military asset, and stripping Syria of its ability to defend itself.
This does not bother you? It doesnt faze you?

If we had a resignation of Assad and a controlled transition govt, none of this would have happened. but this was never put as an element to Assad by his backers.

Assad literally ordered all Units to come back to Damascus to save him, they abandoned all fronts on the Golan, Assad at the end then ran like a coward.

This man was willing to have Syria burn rather than give up power. It was only at the last moment where the Syrian military apparatus ignored him and reached out to the rebels. that he saw he had no power, that he got up and ran to Latakia to be flown out the country by the Russians.

 

[hyperman]

You can still be for Syrias integrity including its military capacity to defend itself, without being pro Assad. Most here wont shed a tear if Assad gets hit by a bus. Assad proved to be useless and a coward, so we can all agree with that.

But the issue before us as we speak is while ya'll are drunk on your so called success, the Israeli military is utterly DESTROYING every key Syrian military asset, and stripping Syria of its ability to defend itself.
This does not bother you? It doesnt faze you?

Idk how accurate this report is, but its an interesting note that it doesn't seem the Syrian Opposition is seeking a hostile relationship with Iran. With Assad out of the picture, there are more parallel and aligning Realpolitik Interests with Iran than many would realize.

Iran still needs a supply line to Lebanon, Hezbollah still needs strategic depth in Syria. and the new Syrian govt needs military supplies, specifically Air Defense and a deterrence capacity and weapons from a source that is immune to Sanctions or doesn't care about them.

Syrian and Iran have common enemies here in the Zionist entity and even other govts in the region with a hostility towards the Arab Spring and Islamic revolution movements(UAE) idk if the people still bitter over the Assad affair have realized this realpolitik reality. You can choose to mope over Assad, you can choose to bog down into the Shia Sunni BS, or you can choose a collaborate path.

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[Unknowntruth]

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So what is going to be done about this? I don’t see any news reporting this or any action being taken to defend against this.

What now?

Basher Assad is a criminal and he deserves everything he got but now Syria is losing strategic territory without any whimper?

I hope Turkey has an answer to tackle this issue. I don’t think getting rid of Bashar just to have Israel steal territory is a good thing. I see nothing but silence about this.

I hope people settle down from the euphoria now and start to ponder what next or Syria is in trouble.

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[hyperman]

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So what is going to be done about this? I don’t see any news reporting this or any action being taken to defend against this.

What now?

Basher Assad is a criminal and he deserves everything he got but now Syria is losing strategic territory without any whimper?

I hope Turkey has an answer to tackle this issue. I don’t think getting rid of Bashar just to have Israel steal territory is a good thing. I see nothing but silence about this.

I hope people settle down from the euphoria now and start to ponder what next or Syria is in trouble.

@UKBengali
@Meengla
@Falcon29
@hussain0216
@Aziqbal
@Kyussis
@mulj

The Israelis don't have the capacity to take over any significant population centers, and hold them, thats far too much of a commitment for them, especially with them engaged on two different fronts in Gaza and Lebanon. So far they did take the heights and they have taken areas in the buffer zone, but not much more. Its a loss but its not crippling. for coparison, They control more territory in Lebanon currently post ceasefire than they took in Syria post assad.

I believe this is a trap to goad them into attack in a reactive way. if you attack or confront them militarily it will be used to justify intervention from outside power and cause other effect, and its a especially bad idea when control has not been consolidated over the whole of the country yet. the PKK areas, Al Tanf and the northern bank of the Euphrates is still by foreign powers.

The matter of priority should be first to consolidate the rule and stabilize, Turkey can help in destroying the PKK. Manbij has already been taken back largely and they have pushed the PKK east of the Euphrates, the remaining areas need to be consolidated for Syrian territorial integrity.

In the meantime anything that is of military value should be taken underground if such facilities exist or scatter deeper into syria, making it less accessable, in term of minimizing losses.

once things are consolidated and there is some stability other matters can be assessed. currently things are far too fluid. its only been a couple of day since Damascus was taken.

 

[hyperman]

with regards to Russia, I've heard several proposals, one proposal I heard was get Russia to take over the Golan area with troops and bring in Air defense, in exchange for letting them use the Latakia airbase and Tartus facility.

Its a risky proposal as one, you don't know if Russia would take it, two you don't know if Russia would stab you, try to overthrow you or whatever.

there is also a proposal to normalize ties with Iran, which I think makes sense, there is nothing to be gained in hostility with Iran, so the bad blood needs to be moved past on both sides. whether these ties evolve to strategic support, its unknown. but just the normalization itself is beneficial, to end any hostility held on either side.

 

[Indos]

Israel economy can be destroyed if they have war with current Syria with backing of Turkiye, Saudi ( rich countries ), and other Muslim countries

I believe even Taliban will send troops there lol