Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[_Arabia_]

you are supposedly of Canadian origin, West Asia is none of your concern

He is obviously a Pakistani residing in Canada which you already know.

BTW, if Canadians should not meddle in Syria, Iranians certainly should not be meddling in Syria or any Arab country for that matter as 1) you are not Arabs, 2) your meddling is mostly unwanted, 3) you are not part of the Arab region.

For instance according to the UN definitions of geographical regions, you are not even considered a Middle Eastern/Western Asian country but a South Asian country.

BTW, can you tell me what the purpose of Iran propping up a bloody and incompetent Al-Assad regime for decades, losing 6.000 Iranians, losing 50-100 billion dollars (apparently) was exactly other than becoming deeply hated by most Syrians?

You know what? The same situation will replay itself with the Houthis who control 20% of Yemen. You cannot change history or geography. Nobody can.

 

[r3alist]

Syrian people want Russians and Iranians out of Syria

you can't kick them out then turn and expect them to help you

what was rebel plan for this?

How long did Russia have agreement with Israel on not stepping on each other whilst both both bombed Syria?

I am talking of last decade almost

Seems like everyone left Syria weak, Israel take spoils

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran-ASSAD -Russia could not stop even Israeli Air Force to bomb Syria day and night

this level of bombing in Syria is totally unprecedented. Israel never did anything like this before. guess we should thank Turkey

He is obviously a Pakistani residing in Canada which you already know.

BTW, if Canadians should not meddle in Syria, Iranians certainly should not be meddling in Syria or any Arab country for that matter as 1) you are not Arabs, 2) your meddling is mostly unwanted, 3) you are not part of the Arab region.

For instance according to the UN definitions of geographical regions, you are not even considered a Middle Eastern/Western Asian country but a South Asian country.

BTW, can you tell me what the purpose of Iran propping up a bloody and incompetent Al-Assad regime for decades, losing 6.000 Iranians, losing 50-100 billion dollars (apparently) was exactly other than becoming deeply hated by most Syrians?

You know what? The same situation will replay itself with the Houthis who control 20% of Yemen. You cannot change history or geography. Nobody can.

welcome back my pan Arabist obsessed friend

honestly many of your takes on Palestine were mostly agreeable, and it is understandable you want the best for Saudi Arabia and Arabs generally

like many Arab nationalists, however, your hatred for iran blinds you

 

[PakFactor]

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Some of the images I'm seeing are beyond horrible. I don't understand how one Muslim could do this to another; it's beyond me. Aren't you worried about the afterlife? How are you going to answer for this horrible crime?

Now, this has me questioning Pakistani sites and the torture committed there; I wouldn't put Pakistani authorities far behind doing similar acts. @Waz @Oscar @RescueRanger @LeGenD

 

[MMM-E]

this level of bombing in Syria is totally unprecedented. Israel never did anything like this before. guess we should thank Turkey

Turkiye also doing it
These weapons should not fall into the hands of terrorist groups.

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Israel is afraid of HTS

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We will not dispense with the old regime, says al-Jolani​

BBC

The leader of the main Islamist rebel group in Syria has met the former prime minister to co-ordinate the transfer of power.

Footage released by the rebel's military operations command shows Abu Mohammed al-Jolani saying the transition would benefit from the experience of the old government.

“The young men have gained a lot of experience," al-Jolani says. "They started working from nothing.

"Idlib is small and has no resources, but thank God, we were able to achieve something big during the past period. You will see experience, it's not zero. In certain areas, they had varying high levels of success.

"However, we will not dispense the old status, it is essential that we take advantage of its existence.”

Al Jalani is demonstrating that he is a mature and responsible leader. Hopefully Israel doesn't take him out.

 

[EugeneP]

The point is if that approach is tenable or not, if you look outside it's 2024, a globalised interconnected world where Ukrainians were training Syrian rebels

Ultimately if china wants to remain undisturbed then it needs to shape events around it to keep the heat off it

Every nation that's a player or pretender is doing this... Russia, USA, turkey, Britain, France etc they are doing something
.


China I don't think can stay indifferent to everyone falling to the opposing camp, I don't see that as being ok for them

As an example, take Myanmar. It has been a mess for about 50 years and neglected by everybody. But it is not broken beyond any hope like Afghanistan or Haiti. Now, being a neighbor, would it not be in China's interest to make a workable country of Myanmar, like Thailand or Vietnam? But I don't see any happenings.

 

[r3alist]

He is obviously a Pakistani residing in Canada which you already know.

BTW, if Canadians should not meddle in Syria, Iranians certainly should not be meddling in Syria or any Arab country for that matter as 1) you are not Arabs, 2) your meddling is mostly unwanted, 3) you are not part of the Arab region.

For instance according to the UN definitions of geographical regions, you are not even considered a Middle Eastern/Western Asian country but a South Asian country.

BTW, can you tell me what the purpose of Iran propping up a bloody and incompetent Al-Assad regime for decades, losing 6.000 Iranians, losing 50-100 billion dollars (apparently) was exactly other than becoming deeply hated by most Syrians?

You know what? The same situation will replay itself with the Houthis who control 20% of Yemen. You cannot change history or geography. Nobody can.

This is a chat forum of very varying and diverse inputs

Lets not focus on being from x or y on a chat forum

 

[r3alist]

As an example, take Myanmar. It has been a mess for about 50 years and neglected by everybody. But it is not broken beyond any hope like Afghanistan or Haiti. Now, being a neighbor, would it not be in China's interest to make a workable country of Myanmar, like Thailand or Vietnam? But I don't see any happenings.

Where do you think is of more global importance and consequence?

Middle east or Myanmar?

In one week Russia has lost its prestige in the region and ten years of investment

If china and Russia have a limitless partners they logically are hurt by this too

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran would be lucky to last a few decades

These Al-Yahuday will come to our western borders in full dress if Iran falls. They're already there half way.......

 

[Persian Gulf]

Turkiye also doing it
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so first you blame iran for not stopping limited israeli bombing, and now you justify massive unprecedented bombing across all of syria by Israel because turkey is also doing some limited strikes in north syria

you just say what we already know. turkey and Israel are the same and have the same objectives in syria

 

[Lulldapull]

Al Jalani is demonstrating that he is a mature and responsible leader. Hopefully Israel doesn't take him out.

He works for Israel no? Hard to believe you can't see it?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Turkey from the north and Israel from the south are swallowing Syria.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Al Jalani is demonstrating that he is a mature and responsible leader. Hopefully Israel doesn't take him out.

He is irrelevant now. What power or influence does Syria have right now or will do in the future?

 

[MMM-E]

you just say what we already know. turkey and Israel are the same and have the same objectives in syria

Not Iran
but Turkiye and Israel have borders with Syria
Both Countries should secure their borders against possible threats